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The correct shit taste.
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Ah yes here is one example of a trope that pretty much applies to everything:

If you have a protagonist with a grey morality who has committed a crime. He will almost definitely end up dead or in jail by the end of the series.

I have never seen that trope broken. Every protagonist who has done something evil without regret that I know of, has ended up dead.


Darker Than Black.
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saprobe wrote:


xxJing wrote:

Ah yes here is one example of a trope that pretty much applies to everything:

If you have a protagonist with a grey morality who has committed a crime. He will almost definitely end up dead or in jail by the end of the series.

I have never seen that trope broken. Every protagonist who has done something evil without regret that I know of, has ended up dead.


Darker Than Black.


It's been a long time but I don't remember him hurting any innocent people.

I know evil is a broad term but in the case of a story it has to be something like hurting / killing an innocent person to trigger that trope. Killing bad guys / people who have attacked the protagonist doesn't count.
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Experienced:
-knows what common tropes to expect in a certain genre
-a bit jaded on the lack of originality in anime
-still enjoys the shows that "lack originality" anyway
-realizes that they like what they like, move on, watches more anime

Inexperienced:
-everything feels fresh and new to them
-doesn't care if everyone's seen this crap before because they're having fun!
-getting a grasp on what they really like

Immature:
-OMFG DIS DA BEST THING EVAR!
-Nerrrrrrrrrr! YOOOOOUR'RE OPINYINS ER SHITE!
-This isn't [insert random anime]! It's shit!
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id say if you've seen 10 to 20 anime titles youre pretty experienced. I mean before streaming sites how experienced could somebody be about anime. yeah someone has old tapes or ordered discs in the mail but it was probably all trial and error. im new to CR (not anime) and I feel ive caught up to what anime is. that's my opinion
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xxJing wrote:


saprobe wrote:


xxJing wrote:

Ah yes here is one example of a trope that pretty much applies to everything:

If you have a protagonist with a grey morality who has committed a crime. He will almost definitely end up dead or in jail by the end of the series.

I have never seen that trope broken. Every protagonist who has done something evil without regret that I know of, has ended up dead.


Darker Than Black.


It's been a long time but I don't remember him hurting any innocent people.

I know evil is a broad term but in the case of a story it has to be something like hurting / killing an innocent person to trigger that trope. Killing bad guys / people who have attacked the protagonist doesn't count.


He was an assassin. He killed lots of innocent people.
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xxJing wrote:

Ah yes here is one example of a trope that pretty much applies to everything:

If you have a protagonist with a grey morality who has committed a crime. He will almost definitely end up dead or in jail by the end of the series.

I have never seen that trope broken. Every protagonist who has done something evil without regret that I know of, has ended up dead.


It took a minute and then one hit me: Death Note.

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Rei-hime wrote:


xxJing wrote:

Ah yes here is one example of a trope that pretty much applies to everything:

If you have a protagonist with a grey morality who has committed a crime. He will almost definitely end up dead or in jail by the end of the series.

I have never seen that trope broken. Every protagonist who has done something evil without regret that I know of, has ended up dead.


It took a minute and then one hit me: Death Note.



He died tho. Edit: I hope that's not gonna ruin it for anybody. :p
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xxJing
Ah yes here is one example of a trope that pretty much applies to everything:

If you have a protagonist with a grey morality who has committed a crime. He will almost definitely end up dead or in jail by the end of the series.

I have never seen that trope broken. Every protagonist who has done something evil without regret that I know of, has ended up dead.


Unless we're talking about a redemption story.
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xxJing
Ah yes here is one example of a trope that pretty much applies to everything:

If you have a protagonist with a grey morality who has committed a crime. He will almost definitely end up dead or in jail by the end of the series.

I have never seen that trope broken. Every protagonist who has done something evil without regret that I know of, has ended up dead.


Unless we're talking about a redemption story.


Like Rurouni Kenshin. I think xxJing is trying to say a protagonist who does something awful in the context of the anime not in the past.
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I've been watching anime in some form or another since about 1984ish.

A lot of what I like is considered carp by many.

Point being I like/dislike it regardless of outside reviews
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saprobe wrote:


BlazingRagnarok wrote:


xxJing
Ah yes here is one example of a trope that pretty much applies to everything:

If you have a protagonist with a grey morality who has committed a crime. He will almost definitely end up dead or in jail by the end of the series.

I have never seen that trope broken. Every protagonist who has done something evil without regret that I know of, has ended up dead.


Unless we're talking about a redemption story.


Like Rurouni Kenshin. I think xxJing is trying to say a protagonist who does something awful in the context of the anime not in the past.


The thing about exceptions is that they're a great way to cheat a little (or a lot) on the airtight-ness of ironclad rules.
My knowledge of anime isn't encyclopedic, but I'm sure that there are stories in which a character is shown to be evil, but progresses through character development and still gets a happy ending.
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saprobe wrote:


Rei-hime wrote:


xxJing wrote:

Ah yes here is one example of a trope that pretty much applies to everything:

If you have a protagonist with a grey morality who has committed a crime. He will almost definitely end up dead or in jail by the end of the series.

I have never seen that trope broken. Every protagonist who has done something evil without regret that I know of, has ended up dead.


It took a minute and then one hit me: Death Note.



He died tho. Edit: I hope that's not gonna ruin it for anybody. :p


... I'm not sure how to respond to this because it sounds like you're correcting me but the trope dictates that the main character either dies or go to jail in the end. Can you elaborate?
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id say if you've seen 10 to 20 anime titles youre pretty experienced. I mean before streaming sites how experienced could somebody be about anime. yeah someone has old tapes or ordered discs in the mail but it was probably all trial and error. im new to CR (not anime) and I feel ive caught up to what anime is. that's my opinion


Actually I remember seeing something about like pretty large anime conventions even as far back as the 80's. They were primarily Battleship Yamato, Gundam, and Macross I think though.

I personally got into anime in 1995 when the Sci-Fi channel started showing anime movies on Saturday mornings. I was 9 at the time. I got my first PC in 1999 when I was 13, and it was also around that time that cable internet started to become a thing. My friend introduced me to Kazaa, an old p2p file sharing service, and I started pirating anime from there, after that I found some IRC channels for fansub groups and started pirating anime through IRC.

Even though the community was quite small, there were people who were actively watching simulcasts at least since before I got into it at around 1999.

If there is one big change that I have noticed since then, it's that in the 90's animes seemed to be more travel/adventure based. These days the themes seem a bit more sedentary.
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Rei-hime wrote:


saprobe wrote:


Rei-hime wrote:


xxJing wrote:

Ah yes here is one example of a trope that pretty much applies to everything:

If you have a protagonist with a grey morality who has committed a crime. He will almost definitely end up dead or in jail by the end of the series.

I have never seen that trope broken. Every protagonist who has done something evil without regret that I know of, has ended up dead.


It took a minute and then one hit me: Death Note.



He died tho. Edit: I hope that's not gonna ruin it for anybody. :p


... I'm not sure how to respond to this because it sounds like you're correcting me but the trope dictates that the main character either dies or go to jail in the end. Can you elaborate?


Right. I'm sorry I misunderstood. I thought you were trying to point out an exception like I did.
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