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Posted 7/25/15

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13 year olds are looking up porn these days. I think they'll be ok with 2d/3d ecchi adverts...

I'm not sure if the mature content filter applies to ads or not, but either way, it's not a big deal really. It's common practice to advertise your sites material, regardless of what it may be.


Your first statement is subjective to your personal experiences based on interactions on the internet and 13 year olds you know in your life, you can't just generalise all 13 year olds like that.

Mature content filter didn't apply to that advertisement because I have mine turned on and I've still watched it 4 times.


Go to a grade school and look around, 75% of the 5th and 6th graders gave smart phones. As to why they have them, I do not know. If they have them they have access to porn, at least a good chunk of them do, and I would bet the farm they are looking at it because it because that is what stupid kids do. Generalizations through observation are usually correct, its the basis for analysis which many people hold jobs in.

That being said, I if I was I Crunchyroll I actually would have picked a different scene to advertise for the show, but that is just me

Posted 7/25/15

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Go to a grade school and look around, 75% of the 5th and 6th graders gave smart phones. As to why they have them, I do not know. If they have them they have access to porn, at least a good chunk of them do, and I would bet the farm they are looking at it because it because that is what stupid kids do. Generalizations through observation are usually correct, its the basis for analysis which many people hold jobs in.

That being said, I if I was I Crunchyroll I actually would have picked a different scene to advertise for the show, but that is just me



I'm not sure how much freedom CR even has when it comes to advertisements. I would think the companies handing out licenses for the shows get to decide how it is advertised as any changes people make could change how the show is initially viewed and make them lose possible viewers for various reasons.
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Posted 7/25/15

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zalbik wrote:


Go to a grade school and look around, 75% of the 5th and 6th graders gave smart phones. As to why they have them, I do not know. If they have them they have access to porn, at least a good chunk of them do, and I would bet the farm they are looking at it because it because that is what stupid kids do. Generalizations through observation are usually correct, its the basis for analysis which many people hold jobs in.

That being said, I if I was I Crunchyroll I actually would have picked a different scene to advertise for the show, but that is just me



I'm not sure how much freedom CR even has when it comes to advertisements. I would think the companies handing out licenses for the shows get to decide how it is advertised as any changes people make could change how the show is initially viewed and make them lose possible viewers for various reasons.


I do not think any of us even though of that simple possibility. You are probably correct.

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Posted 7/25/15

dotsforlife wrote:

13 year olds are looking up porn these days. I think they'll be ok with 2d/3d ecchi adverts...

I'm not sure if the mature content filter applies to ads or not, but either way, it's not a big deal really. It's common practice to advertise your sites material, regardless of what it may be.


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Now I see the pic of the ad. It's certainly inappropriate. I don't know if age restriction and mature content block can filter mature advertisements provided users provide their DOB.
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Posted 7/25/15

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Could be risky. There are laws against knowingly giving minors explicit images and with CR having profiles for their user, many of which list age, running that ad for someone who says they are a minor could very well be illegal.

Some are pretty broad in there definition of explicit imagery. eg http://www.legis.state.pa.us/WU01/LI/LI/CT/HTM/18/00.059.003.000..HTM



(1) any picture, photograph, drawing, sculpture, motion picture film, videotape or similar visual representation or image of a person or portion of the human body which depicts nudity, sexual conduct, or sadomasochistic abuse and which is harmful to minors;


That's a two-pronged provision, and I don't think anyone's going to be able to demonstrate harm brought on by the ad unless the definition of "harm" they're using is so laughably wide that it really ought to be stricken from the books. If we define the content of that ad as harmful it's no leap to say that the various volumes of the Rosario Vampire manga are harmful, and that means bookstores in Pennsylvania would have to either stop selling them altogether or put them off in an inaccessible "adult" section (which would be ridiculous and summon a furious outcry from booksellers, publishers, and manga consumers). Like I tried to show with my Newtype USA and bookstore examples: there's no harm being done. There's been plenty of time for harmful effects to emerge (decades), and they haven't.

Besides, given that ads are selected randomly from the list one might argue that CR isn't actively providing this content to minors, and that minors' exposure thereto is thus not a premeditated (and thus "knowing") act on CR's part. One might try to angle "knowing" provision (assuming harmfulness is somehow demonstrated and that CR composes its own ad lists) in CR's failure to have two separate lists of ads for self-reported minors and self-reported adults. But honestly, even if that would cover their backsides legally I'm wholly unconvinced that such separation would make one iota of substantial difference in whether minors are exposed to the content in question. We all know perfectly well that it's not actually reasonably possible for CR to verify that someone is at or above the age of majority when they say they are, so sorting ad content by age would be a meaningless gesture which minors could (and do) circumvent throughout the internet despite efforts on the part of website owners to collect accurate information from end users. They do not, and cannot, know who is sitting at the monitor or television even if valid credit card information is a prerequisite to accessing the content in question, and the technology website owners have at their disposal is such that minors can't reasonably be prevented from circumventing age filtering in one way or another.

It just seems like a big waste of time over something that's not even harmful, but if people want ad filtering based on self-reported age I think CR might accommodate if only to please its consumers and cover its backside.
Posted 7/25/15
I let my child see the ad in question... as soon as the translucent blue boobs and the tentacles appeared, his head literally exploded! what a mess. I'm sending CR the cleaning bill.
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Posted 7/25/15 , edited 7/25/15
I think our ideas of what is inappropriate are a little antiquated, kids these days are exposed to things at a much younger age then they were previously. Our society needs to stop being so prudish, seeing a pair of breasts isn't going to mentally scar your children.

Edit: My comment isn't directed at OP, just at society in general.
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Posted 7/25/15

dotsforlife wrote:

13 year olds are looking up porn these days. I think they'll be ok with 2d/3d ecchi adverts...

I'm not sure if the mature content filter applies to ads or not, but either way, it's not a big deal really. It's common practice to advertise your sites material, regardless of what it may be.


I'll check my brothers history just for confirmation...
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Hm... I think that movie theaters have had it right all along. Attempt to fill the trailers and ads with ads that fit the current movie or show that you are watching. If you are watching something like Squid Girl, despite the name of it and what people might think of what it is, you shouldn't show an ad for something like Monster Musume. But, if you were watching something like Oreimo or Charger Girl or something, then I don't see why it wouldn't be okay to have an ad for Monster Musume.

Basically, if I had a child who was watching something that I deemed as suitable for his or her age like Baby Steps or something and then a Monster Musume ad pops up, I'd be a bit annoyed just because I was not expecting there to be inappropriate content for a show that is supposed to be appropriate for the age.

I work with kids as a job, and it is unrealistic to think that all kids are ignorant to ecchi and porn and all that because of the world we currently live in. However, that doesn't make it okay to think that just because they are already on there, so then we should promote it. Still, because the fact remains that you can't fully stop kids from running into content like that, you have to educate them on how to properly interpret the info. It's no different from educating kids on online social media. There are plenty of kids who are under 13 or even 10 who go on stuff like Facebook despite what the regulations say, and they need to understand how to properly behave on there or else things will go very wrong for someone sooner or later.

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Posted 7/25/15
If the 13 year old is female and has never seen a hardened nipple or a set of panties it would be a strange individual indeed.I suggest that your concern for 13 year olds is just misdirection.
Posted 7/25/15
I don't think it's an issue unless you want to "protect" the youth from things of a sexual nature, It isn't for me to decide. Diffrent standards for different people, cultures, families ect... so who's to say? Questionable? Depends on who you talk to but, sure.

Also I don't know anything about advertising but If I wanted to bring people in from a younger demographic I think ecchi things would be fair game for accomplishing my goal, as for advertising that scene from "Monster Musume Everyday Life With Monster Girls" it's a bit of a stretch since I might lose my job.
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Posted 7/25/15 , edited 7/25/15
Gotta get that NEET audience. Funny, CR did so much in expanding the anime audience. Now that Viz and Funi are eating their lunch they are regressing.
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