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DISCLAIMER: This is not a debate on the existence of God

It's no secret that this Pope is more progressive than his predecessors. He has refused to live a lavish lifestyle and prefers to live simple. He has spoken out against the evils of capitalism, wealthy inequality, and greed. He released a bombshell document saying that climate change is man made and has criticized the current economic system for exploiting the poor. He helped with the thawing of relations between the US and Cuba and had the Vatican recognize Palestine. Francis has repeated his emphasis on being more open to gays and others, including atheists. So naturally, his popularity has plummeted among American conservatives and Catholics. His popularity has also dipped among liberals because of his lack of action on gay marriage and abortion. It seems American Catholics are more closely affiliated with their political parties than their faith.

What are your thoughts on this Pope? To me, he seems like a true follower of Jesus Christ's teachings but he has to take further action to bring the Catholic Church into the 21st century.
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He should clean his own house before he comments on anything.
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I don't like him. Yeah, maybe he is the best and/or most tolerant Pope of all we've had before, but he's not tolerant enough. It's the Catholic Church, though. I don't expect anything.
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Probably the only pope I dont dislike.

My family is catholic, im an atheist however. The catholic church has long standing traditions that everyone seems to think can simply disappear over night. Which is simply not how the world works. Pope Francis seems to be trying to push the churches ideologies forward, however not everyone within his payroll agrees with what he is doing, therefor progress is slow. However, it pisses me off when I see comments like "hes not tolerant enough" when the man is clearly trying to do his utmost to change the churches views on controversial topics. A journey happens one step a time, and he has clearly taken quite a few steps. Time is the only factor that we can rely on now. Not everyone wants the church to take that journey but he clearly is trying his best to make it happen.

People seem to think he holds all the power in church and can instantly decree anything and change everyone's opinion.

It seems like alot of people are ignorant, just as much so as the hardcore Catholics who oppose the changes. People do not realize there is cultural and traditional reasons as to why the church has its stances, are they archaic? yes. However you must understand deeply rooted traditions that are held dear by many people take time to change.


As an atheist, I appreciate what the pope is doing, he may be slow, but I value his effort more so than the results. Change comes about by changing the hearts of the people not by simply decreeing "you must accept things you dont agree with immediately".
Posted 7/26/15
Good on him.
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LONGNAMEYOUWONTMISS wrote:

It's no secret that this Pope is more progressive than his predecessors. He has refused to live a lavish lifestyle and prefers to live simple. He has spoken out against the evils of capitalism, wealthy inequality, and greed. He released a bombshell document saying that climate change is man made and has criticized the current economic system for exploiting the poor. He helped with the thawing of relations between the US and Cuba and had the Vatican recognize Palestine. Francis has repeated his emphasis on being more open to gays and others, including atheists. So naturally, his popularity has plummeted among American conservatives and Catholics.


(I thought American conservatives thought Catholics were inherently evil to begin with!)


His popularity has also dipped among liberals because of his lack of action on gay marriage and abortion. It seems American Catholics are more closely affiliated with their political parties than their faith.

What are your thoughts on this Pope? To me, he seems like a true follower of Jesus Christ's teachings but he has to take further action to bring the Catholic Church into the 21st century.


Political in-fighting aside, he appears to be living up to his namesake, which is more than can be said of most popes.

(And that's a compliment, coming from a New England Lutheran.)
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Pope Francis is a great pope in my eyes and seeing that he is accepting of change makes me happy as not many Catholics have that kind of open mind. I don't think he should go too far because he would be hated more if he were to try to change too much. I like how he has a simple lifestyle and compared to the last Pope, I prefer Francis. I feel he is the type of person we need in order to make everyone more accepting. It's a good start and I hope the popes after him continue what he's trying to do because accepting others for who they are and loving them anyway is a good step forward.
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I quite like Pope Francis, though he doesn't stand out much to me. However, I kind of mean that in a good way.

(I guess I should say that this is coming from someone who is quasi-deist at the moment, but who still greatly respects religion in general, Christianity specifically, and Catholicism even more specifically).

For people who want the Catholic Church to be "liberal" - this is pretty much the best you're going to get. The CC just isn't going to "modernize" in the way people think it is, and so people are always going to hate it no matter what they do. That's fairly obvious if you just read the Cathechism and dig into the history of what they believe and why. That being said, I feel like Pope Francis is probably the closest they're going to get to "meeting half-way", and I appreciate that fact.

He's also doing wonders to foster understanding between science and religion (even though their "hostility" is built on misunderstandings anyway).

Plus he just seems like a nice guy - kind of like and old grandfather. Pope Benedict XVI looking like Palpatine didn't exactly help their image

So, yea, I quite like him.
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He's the popiest pope there's been in a while. That's for sure.
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Is dislike the whole idea of the pope but I like the guy and what he's doing. He's a force for good.
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Well I've been hearing a lot of stories of popes molesting children. It's hard to keep track which is which, they all look bald, white and wrinkly.
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He's the best pope there's been in a long time (ever?) but I do wish he was spending more time cleaning up the church than commenting on things outside of it (even if said comments are better than the norm).
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Posted 7/26/15
Only Time will tell.

and by time I mean Time magazine.
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Posted 7/26/15
A step in the right direction. How far a step...I've yet to determine that.
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Raised in a Catholic home but I'm an Agnostic. He's been a wonderful push for Catholics to start questioning their ideologies. I think he's been the best Pope they've had in a while, imo. I have to say he's certainly my favorite so far. Certainly has good intentions.
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