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What on earth is up with the Migrant Crisis in Europe?
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I sorta want to laugh when I hear the EU complain about the influx of immigrants. Welcome to what America has experienced for the last 40 years. Practically all of Mexico and most of Central/South America, China, Vietnam and the Philippines have fled to the US. We've been taking in refugees from these countries for years. What makes me laugh is that these European countries are same countries that laughed at the US when they saw news reports regarding our troubling race relationships and the growing disparity between the rich and poor, and guess what's happening in their countries? The same thing that they chided the US for the last 40 years!

In addition to the cost of feeding, housing and educating these immigrants, the EU also has to deal with ISIS also smuggling in their own people to carry out operations in the EU. There have been many articles about people smugglers who talk about being paid a hefty sum to bring ISIS members to the EU. If these people are willing to sell ancient artifacts to make money, what makes you think their morals will prevent them from smuggling terrorists?

The only way to stop the mass migration is to make the migration unappealing in the first place. Deport. Deny all benefits to immigrants. Only when people realize that there's no financial incentive to migrate will they stay where they are and fight those that are oppressing them.
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Europeans started the problem by going to Africa and stealing their people for slavery and by stealing Africans natural resources.
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animegirl2222 wrote:

Lot of migrants are probably trying to escape the poverty of their former countries and see europe as a more economically stable place where they can possibly mooch off the government, get a better job, and live a better life?

If your country were in shambles or starting to deteriorate, where'd you go, that's the question?


I think the problem UK has is that these people are not settling in the first safe country they come to. France is a safe country and you can apply for refugee status there but that isn't their goal because France's system isn't seen as being generous. France does have some refugees. This action can go against them if they get to the UK and try to apply for refugee status. UK is complaining that France isn't doing enough for refugees and France sees it as UK's problem because the people prefer the UK.

Nothing is wrong with fleeing a country where there is lots of danger and instability but you have to make sure you find a way to migrate legally if you do not fit the requirements of refugee status. Most of those that leave their country are young men, apparently the journey is seen as too risky for their daughters who remain at home.
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Posted 8/2/15 , edited 8/2/15
Euroupe is assimilating to Islam.


screendoor wrote:

Europeans started the problem by going to Africa and stealing their people for slavery and by stealing Africans natural resources.

You do realize that the middle east was also involved in the African slave trade, right?
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People are just voting with their feet.Nothing new there.Some of the tension that has initiated new immigration can be directly or indirectly attributed to the very policies, alliances and military incursions, (historic and recent),of the those countries that are being immigrated to.
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tkayt wrote:


animegirl2222 wrote:

Lot of migrants are probably trying to escape the poverty of their former countries and see europe as a more economically stable place where they can possibly mooch off the government, get a better job, and live a better life?

If your country were in shambles or starting to deteriorate, where'd you go, that's the question?


I think the problem UK has is that these people are not settling in the first safe country they come to. France is a safe country and you can apply for refugee status there but that isn't their goal because France's system isn't seen as being generous. France does have some refugees. This action can go against them if they get to the UK and try to apply for refugee status. UK is complaining that France isn't doing enough for refugees and France sees it as UK's problem because the people prefer the UK.

Nothing is wrong with fleeing a country where there is lots of danger and instability but you have to make sure you find a way to migrate legally if you do not fit the requirements of refugee status. Most of those that leave their country are young men, apparently the journey is seen as too risky for their daughters who remain at home.


France is doing way more for refugees than the UK, the UK has only taken about 143 Syrian refugees, whereas France has taken somewhere between two and three thousand. Only Belarus has taken less than the UK.

Admittedly the current crisis is not just Syrian refugees and while Britain should have some form of border control, I'd like to think the country wouldn't be destroyed by letting the population of a small village into Britain.
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The ones trying to come here don't know that. One Syrian man, a professional who's, livelyhood and home life that got destroyed in the conflict said his goal is the UK because of the language. He was trained in his country's language and English. It would be difficult (but not impossible) for him to assimilate in France due to the language barrier.

In reality most refugees stay in their country or in the countries that immediately border their country. Even with the number Europe is seeing, that's just a small fraction of those that are fleeing.

UK can manage to take some more refugees it's just that some here can't decide how many they will have. There's also the BNP (far right group) who don't want any immigration in any form and would rather have all immigrants that are here now repatriated back to their origins. They get helped when refugees are not handled properly like putting large numbers of them in small traditional towns. Then you have locals complain that they've been invaded. The refugees end up feeling isolated in a hostile environment. Big cities have been used to immigration for centuries so anyone new there wouldn't be a shock but housing there is expensive. Housing in rural areas is cheaper but they lack the support and infrastructure to take on sudden increases in population. The lawyers the refugees manage to get for their cases are in the cities and these people lack the funds to constantly travel to them. Funding for lawyers to do these cases have also gone down.

Here's an article on what these people expect.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-33268521

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