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At least it's only an outline for the teachers.
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The Jefferson County school district in Colorado convened a board committee to review the curriculum, stating that all materials should promote “patriotism” and “respect for authority,” and “should not encourage or condone civil disorder.”


That's practically propaganda. They literally sound like the communist Chinese government by saying that.
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Nothing new. The US has a long history of sanitizing it's history. I wouldn't get too stressed about it. I'm not sure that people are ready the truth. The worry is that it would hurt the pride of the nation, but I don't think that is true. I think it would add depth of character and a greater sense of pride and understanding. However it's far to late for that. Just relax and let it be.
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Sounds about right... Liberal progressive Americans trying to force feed our youth contemptuous views about the Country we live in and the policies we hold. This is the socialist push by the left, they're not even trying to hide it.

I know we have lots of problems, like "American exceptionalism". When the only thing we're truly exceptional for is our arsenal and defense spending.. But shaping curriculum to guide Americans to be anything other than individuals capable of rational thought. Which was what our country was founded on... Is dangerous indeed.


Like Feminism, the left has taken over and is pushing their agenda to separate and destroy the American people, hence us becoming even MORE reliant on the State (government).

So before I go on an epic rant I'll leave with this; When a government, any government (most governments, if not all..) force its citizens to pay for products that don't or hardly ever produce results VA, Public Schooling, SNAP, Section8 , Planned Parenthood (Planned Parenthood founded by a Eugenicist.) etc... *At almost literally the point of a gun. I'd think valid history is the least of our problems.


I LOVE America, I really do. I just really, really hate this trash government and the fact that we're not individuals.. Just pawns in another empire.

Which is why I'm an Anarco-Capitalist. So sick and fucking tired of this LEFT/RIGHT BLUE/RED PROGRESSIVE/CONSERVATIVE dichotomy. Why can't we be individuals all capable of rational thought.. Not this hive mind or the "my team" mindset where people take sides just based on their peers or hardset views.



*(At almost literally the point of a gun)
One of the biggest points I will make in this whole post. You are not free.
So I will start this with a straw-man anecdotal story because it fits. Say <insert your name here> is an upstanding citizen, follows the rules, respects their fellow human beings etc... Just an all around good person. Recently, <insert name> bought their first house, bought it cash so no mortgage needed. After living in their home for a few months, they receive an ominous letter stating; "You do not own this land, it falls in jurisdiction of the United States of America and we have the right to 'Tax' you what we deem necessary." Puzzled and confused, <insert name> worried... "Is this a joke?" So they ignored the letter and decided to go on about their lives. Until they receive the next letter stating, "You did not reply to our last letter! Hence we've put a lien on your house for the back taxes you owe!" Thrown back, <insert name> gets angry... "What the fuck do they mean back taxes?? I already paid for this land! Is it not mine?!?!" and ignores the letter stating that his property has a lien placed on it. A few more months pass, <insert name> thinks back to the letter stating the lein, "I guess it was all a joke, I mean.. I already paid for my property.. How could they possibly put a lein on it?" That's when <insert name> receives an echoing heavy knock at their door, <insert name> rushes to open, "Hello?" Men in dark suits address the individual; "<insert name> I presume?" <insert name> studders, "W-why y-yes... I-Is there a problem?" The men in black reply, "Yes there is, we understand that you've purchased this property 8 months ago and you've failed to pay any property taxes, hence from this day forward this property and any structures that are on it are property of the United States government. We did try to warn you several times but you did not reply." <insert name> replies with anger, "What the fuck do you mean? Are you trying to say that I NEVER owned this land?" Men in Black, "Yes that is correct sir. We're here today to remove you from the premises as I will state again, this property now belongs to the United States government." <insert name> starts to panic, slams the door shut on the MiB and yells, "THIS IS MY PROPERTY! I PAID FOR IT WITH MY OWN MONEY! IT IS MINE!" The Men in Black leave. Clearly rattled to the bone, scared shitless, <insert name> goes to buy a weapon for personal protection, "They'll never take what is mine!" A few days later <insert name> gets a call; "Hello <insert name> we're with the United States Internal Revenue Service, we understand that you've been warned several times about your back taxes and even refused to be removed from the property WE now own. So we've brought your local SWAT team to help us remove your person from our property." "Oh YEAH?!" <insert name> replies.. "Why don't you just try!" 'Hopefully they'll back off with this bluff' <insert name> thinks.. Click. The other side of the line hangs up, <insert name> thinks, "I did it! The bluff worked!!" Starts to relax and find themselves back in the bedroom to resume their book. "Now.. where was I..." *BANG* <insert name> jumps up startled! "Is that... is that someone breaking into my house? It couldn't be the government, I drove them away with that epic bluff!" <insert name> retrieves the weapon they procured recently and heads to their bedroom door, "Hello?" No answer, nothing. Silence. <insert name> walks out further into the house.. "Hello?? ..Is someone there?!" Still, no replies. <insert name> turns around to see a wall of tactical gear and hears, "THEY'VE GOT A GUN!!!" *BANGBANGBANGBANGBANG* The wall of tactical gear opens fire on the individual killing them.


TL;DR
Own property, don't pay taxes to support programs you don't feel you need to support? Too fucking bad. Don't pay taxes, you'll get a letter, don't reply to that letter, you'll get another letter saying there's a lien.. Don't reply to that letter you'll be getting some knocks.. Don't reply to those knocks and think you're going to protect what you earned with your sweat and blood? Nope. They'll fucking kill you. I could just see someone trying to actually take on a tactical team trained in assault.

Taxation is theft. There's no difference between a thug on the street pointing a weapon at you or the State, of course other than the state can get away with it.. Don't give them what they want, they'll fucking kill you. Simple as that.


This is the world we live in... Where immoral actions taken by the individual will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.. But when it's the State committing these immoral acts, they're showered with praise and acceptance. Makes me fucking sick. There's a reason why politicians always refer to our system as a "Democracy" When in fact it's a Republic. "Democracy" Is just a fancy word for mob rule. Because in general, the mob is less educated and personally responsible.

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You know what Southerners used to call the Civil War? "The War of Northern Aggression"

Let's put it this way: we've come a long way, but we aren't quite there yet.

In honesty, and if you're familiar with these works, I'm not as much concerned about this...





Than I am this:



(Well, not so much in the literal aspects of Brave New World than really the analogy it's trying to prove in juxtaposition to our own society, that is)
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Difficult to comment without actually seeing what the previous standards were and if they were in fact overly negative and biased. So I can't really comment if this is a move that is trying to sweep things under the rug or if it does strive to bring a more balanced presentation.

My take is that you should have a balanced view of history and you shouldn't focus on the negative aspects or the positive ones in that you should have a good mixture of both.

Every country's history is filled with things they should be proud of and things they would like to forget and the USA is no different

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Is AP history even a serious thing? You're probably going to retake the class as an elective in college anyways.

I knew people who passed the test who didn't even take the ap class
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dyme420 wrote:

Sounds about right... Liberal progressive Americans trying to force feed our youth contemptuous views about the Country we live in and the policies we hold. This is the socialist push by the left, they're not even trying to hide it.

I know we have lots of problems, like "American exceptionalism". When the only thing we're truly exceptional for is our arsenal and defense spending.. But shaping curriculum to guide Americans to be anything other than individuals capable of rational thought. Which was what our country was founded on... Is dangerous indeed.


Like Feminism, the left has taken over and is pushing their agenda to separate and destroy the American people, hence us becoming even MORE reliant on the State (government).

So before I go on an epic rant I'll leave with this; When a government, any government (most governments, if not all..) force its citizens to pay for products that don't or hardly ever produce results VA, Public Schooling, SNAP, Section8 , Planned Parenthood (Planned Parenthood founded by a Eugenicist.) etc... *At almost literally the point of a gun. I'd think valid history is the least of our problems.


I LOVE America, I really do. I just really, really hate this trash government and the fact that we're not individuals.. Just pawns in another empire.

Which is why I'm an Anarco-Capitalist. So sick and fucking tired of this LEFT/RIGHT BLUE/RED PROGRESSIVE/CONSERVATIVE dichotomy. Why can't we be individuals all capable of rational thought.. Not this hive mind or the "my team" mindset where people take sides just based on their peers or hardset views.





I'm conservative (I'm not religious, a lot of people believes that if you're conservative you're a Christian lmao) but reading what you put makes me lean towards Anarco-Capitalist because I'm sick of the "dividing". I'm conservative just because I hate Liberals. They changed stuff so much that everyone is fighting each other. I'm also against Planned Parenthood because of the abortions they are selling the parts. I understand if a woman needs to abort for medical reasons or rape that's honestly understandable, but the liberals expose so much about PP that it's funny to me. America so in debt that no telling what the government will do to gain more money. Welfare is fucking horrible. They say there's no more slavery, but I believe there is its not called slavery, but instead the people are called "sheep". Liberals have control over the schools system and media, but one thing they hate and cannot control entirely is the internet. lol XD Our history has been rewritten so much and told that we argue on this and that. Like I believed Romans were white um not they weren't they were all mix colors. I've learned only one slave route and I did not know there were multiple slave routes. Even couple black men on youtube put up videos of other slaves including whites. I'm like wtf. That's why liberals hate the internet. People keep getting mad about the Planned parenthood that we can't tell them what to do with their bodies, I'm not saying that I'm only saying one thing about Planned parenthood and that's about aborting a baby that's heart is forming and going to beat, not the other bull. They jump to quick. One had to put up about god and I'm like that doesn't work on an atheist, but the woman got mad and went through my damn page. I had to report her for that shit.
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Propaganda is just propaganda.Sugar coating history so that it's palatable enough to serve the delusional right wing isn't history.
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Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat its mistakes.


The United States is only hurting itself in the long term.
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History shouldn't be opinionated, but I do love Thomas Jefferson with a burning passion. Patriotism is something you have to discover on your own, and schools shouldn't brainwash it into you. That being said, I hardly believe the Politically Correct powers that be could really go through with this, as teaching about the founding fathers in any length makes the fires of revolution burn in the loins of many Americans like myself (and oh man do I have some burning loins here recently). Teach the kids enough Jefferson, and they'll all become gun toting, Federal Reserve hating, suspicious of government patriots like myself... They need some better curriculum about the civil war, instead of using the same material(Lincoln is the second coming, the south were the first Nazis) they've used since reconstruction. Seriously, Abe Lincoln and General Grant were about the two most racist people at the time, and they are worshipped in the current indoctrination of history... Whoops, I meant Education...
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Dariamus wrote:

Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat its mistakes.


The United States is only hurting itself in the long term.


THIS! ^^^
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Nothing new here
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As if I wasn't already loathing to take the class in a few weeks already...
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I'm a great fan of history, but I try to avoid the revised versions.
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