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Posted 8/1/15

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I don't agree with Hollywood's casting...

And yet, the overwhelming majority of anime characters do NOT look Asian by any means. They look like cartoon versions of white people, with their eye color, hair color, "big eyes"...etc. If I did not know that anime was Japanese, I would have thought it was stylized drawings of whites.

You want an Asian animated character?





True! But hey, thousands and thousands of cosplayers going to all the anime cons and cosplay meets, makes it that much easier for them (us, I like cosplaying to and go to cons and meets a ton ), at least here in Europe!! :-)
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To be fair, Edge of Tomorrow was a pretty good sci-fi movie and was based on a Japanese light novel.

I mean I'm pretty sure this is going to be shit anyway since it's based on Naruto, but I'll give credit where credit is due.
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Just watch it turn out great, lol.
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Just another hollywood movie, like the upcoming GITS, that I'm gonna pretend doesn't exist. In all fairness though, Japan really should be making live action films of these anime shows themselves, they proved that they can make big productions nowadays. I really wish hollywood would just leave anime alone for fuck sake, I know some people won't agree, but it's just my opinion.
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Just watch it turn out great, lol.

I will convert to buddhism and shave my head, send all my money to Sarah Palin and live in the mountain for seventeen years, bungee jump from the empire state building, watch The Room for fifteen hours straight, vote for Donald Trump, run nude through Madison Square Garden, sell my soul to Lucifer, tell everyone that Glasslip is the best anime ever created, cosplay as a character as Boku no Pico at next years comic-con, marry my dog and admit to zoophilia, watch all episodes of Fairy Tail english-dubbed at 144p pause buffering every five second all at once, admit Brawl is a good game, and paste all my credit card info on 4chan if the Naruto movie somehow gets a Rotten Tomatoes score higher than 20%
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Posted 8/1/15
Can't they stop this disaster?
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Last good movie made in the West was like 40 years ago so don't fret too much.


40 years ago puts us back in the seventies, which gave us in America alone:

Apocalypse Now, Jaws, Taxi Driver, Star Wars, Godfather Part 1 and Part 2, Alien, The Exorcist, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Dog Day Afternoon, Annie Hall, The Deer Hunter, Clockwork Orange, Barry Lyndon, Rocky, Halloween, Manhattan, All The President's Men, Dawn of the Dead, Mean Streets, Patton, Deliverance, Harold and Maude, Days of Heaven, Badlands, The Rocky Horror Picture Show, All That Jazz, Sorceror, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Nashville, The French Connection, Network, Midnight Express, Eraserhead, Chinatown, Day of the Jackel, Carrie, Animal House, Kramer vs Kramer, Young Frankenstein, Serpico, The Conversation.

Outside of America (but still in the West!), we had:

Monty Python and the Holy Grail, Aguirre: Wrath of God, Nosferatu the Vampyre, Solaris, Stalker, All's Quiet on the Western Front, The Mirror, Scenes from a Marriage, The Wicker Man, Deep Red, Suspiria, Bird With The Crystal Plumage, Don't Look Now, The Man Who Fell to Earth, Cries and Whispers.

In Western Cinema, the 70s were revolutionary. Modern cinema as we know it was built from the boundary pushing of that decade, a decade that made cinema more powerful and evocative and emotional. The last forty years have been the best forty years in Western cinematic history ever, assuming you don't stick to blockbuster theatrical releases and Americentric filmmaking. European films are at their most socially aware and exciting, bolstered by the likes of Herzog, Roeg and Tarkovsky forty years ago. Look at directors like Cristian Mungiu, Lars Von Trier, Roy Andersson and Lone Scherfig for some beautiful evolutions on ideas and themes 70s Western film making brought us.

American independent cinema is constantly evolving, from Linklater-brand naturalism to Carpenter-influenced genre formalism. The accessibility of high quality film making equipment and wide coverage film festivals has been unbelievably positive for Western cinema. Films such as Martha Marcy May Marlene, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, Requiem for a Dream, Primer and Carruth's lesser seen but more emotive followup Upstream Color are diverse and bold and fascinating. Young American independent film makers such as Debra Granik, Jeff Nichols, Shane Carruth, Cary Fukunaga and Sean Dirkin are ferociously talented and only making cinema better.

The 70s also set the path for directors and writers who still make invaluable work today. Scorsese is a genius and will be a genius until he dies, Herzog hasn't lost his audacity and punch and Terrence Malick still crafts some of the most beautiful images cinema has ever seen.

In fact, there is a way stronger argument that Japanese cinema (what I assume you are implying has the better artisans) has fallen far, far lower than Western cinema. While Ozu was one of the finest, calmest dramatists cinema has ever known, his last film was in 1963. The last truly major film from Japan that could sit at the table with Europe and America was probably Ran, in 1985. Since then the live action film industry has proven too niche, too willing to conform to audience expectations and has simply stayed insular. It is occasionally blindingly brilliant - a Miike film here, a Tokyo Sonata or a Confessions there - but it is exceptionally rare that a new Japanese film is exciting. Korea has the more capable technicians and the more talented auteurs, China has more money for film production and an exceptional base of Hong Kong bred film makers.

In terms of Japanese animation, outside of Ghibili it suffers from the same issues as live action productions. Most of the truly interesting work is being kept to television animation, where production is cheap and returns high. While there is occasionally someone like Satoshi Kon or Mamoru Hosoda, anime film making is just not a very creative nor productive industry. The boom was in the 80s and 90s, when it was fresh, new and exciting, when standalone works like Akira and Ghost in the Shell and Perfect Blue and a bunch of weird, badly translated shit could wind up on VHS and funnel their way into Blockbuster. Now, everything is a sequel to a show, or a spin-off from a show, or fanbait for a show. While something like Evangelion Rebuild might make millions in Japan, it's impossible to sell outside to an established fanbase in the West because it doesn't work standalone, it works as an extension of a previous show. It's as much a product to make money from invested fans as it is a genuine creative endeavour.

And I can't believe I typed up all of this in regards to a comment that dumb.

Posted 8/1/15

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They better not cast white people.


If M. Night Shyamalan was involved, he'd have casted Indians for half the cast and made Naruto a white boy with bad lines.


M. Night Shyamalan xD
That would be an...interesting
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Posted 8/1/15

CKD-Anime wrote:

They better not cast white people.


Well Naruto does have blonde hair and blue eyes...
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Who will go to watch that? I don't think even hard fans of Naruto could stand that.

This is not cash grab but imminent box office bomb.
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Posted 8/1/15

MysticGon wrote:


CKD-Anime wrote:

They better not cast white people.


Well Naruto does have blonde hair and blue eyes...


Then what is Sakura?

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CKD-Anime wrote:


MysticGon wrote:


CKD-Anime wrote:

They better not cast white people.


Well Naruto does have blonde hair and blue eyes...


Then what is Sakura?



Useless, of course. They should cut her from the script.
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That is true.

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Posted 8/1/15

Morbidhanson wrote:

They need to stop this. What's next? Live action One Piece with Hulk Hogan as Luffy?


Hulk Hogan will play Taka-tin from Gintama.

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Posted 8/1/15 , edited 8/1/15
Honestly, I suspect that if a Hollywood studio decided to do Attack on Titans or Full Metal Alchemists, and managed to make it accurate to the original source there would still be people complaining about "white-washing" just because it was originally created in Japan. Mind you these are the same people who have no idea that many classic movies are adaptations of previous films some of whom came from asia. Magnificent Seven(Seven Samurai), A Fistful of Dollars(Yojimbo), The Departed(Infernal Affairs) Hell, Star Wars was based in part to The Hidden Fortress.
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