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Posted 8/1/15

Nalaniel wrote:


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AiYumega wrote:

Last good movie made in the West was like 40 years ago so don't fret too much.




Except for: Eraserhead, Star Wars, Alien, Blade Runner, Apocolypse Now, Blue Velvet, Martyrs, Blue is the Warmest Colour, Upstream Colour, Antichrist, Melancholia and many, many others that are slipping my mind at 1am. I mean c'mon bro, I dislike the direction a lot of western film is going in, but let us not write off an entire subsection of the world. I don't dismiss anime for the abomination that is moe, fanservice and shite plot direction do I?


You forgot The Lord of the Rings.


Considering how many times I've watched my extended cut blurays, you think I would have remembered that. I blame 1am rage posting
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Did you really think I'd really read all that?
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Did you really think I'd really read all that?
I think his point was that you should be ready to back up a brash and stupid statement instead of just making it off the cuff
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Posted 8/1/15 , edited 8/1/15

AiYumega

Did you really think I'd really read all that?


Wow.

Woooooooow.

In denial about being told.
Posted 8/1/15 , edited 8/1/15

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AiYumega

Did you really think I'd really read all that?


Wow.

Woooooooow.

In denial about being told.


I was not making a serious statement so please calm yourselves.

I do say 40 years because Rocky came out in '76, Star Wars in '77. There have been good films since then but as of late.....can't say the same frankly. Film has declined all over.
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Posted 8/1/15 , edited 8/1/15

AiYumega wrote:

I was not making a serious statement so please calm yourselves.



This is sounding like backtracking. I mean, for a non-serious statement you weren't really joking as it was terribly not funny. Perhaps you want to act with some decorum?
Posted 8/1/15

JacknCalumon wrote:


AiYumega wrote:

I was not making a serious statement so please calm yourselves.



This is sounding like backtracking. I mean, for a non-serious statement you weren't really joking as it was terribly not funny. Perhaps you want to act with some decorum?


Are you Siskel and Ebert? Who gives a crap? Movies suck lately, and I'm not gonna renege on that because it's true. I haven't seen one movie in at least 10 years that has had any enjoyment past watching it once and not remembering it at all. It's all churned out dross at this point, and it's a formula that we've chosen with our money.

Entertainment is business.

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Posted 8/1/15 , edited 8/1/15

AiYumega wrote:


JacknCalumon wrote:


AiYumega wrote:

I was not making a serious statement so please calm yourselves.



This is sounding like backtracking. I mean, for a non-serious statement you weren't really joking as it was terribly not funny. Perhaps you want to act with some decorum?


Are you Siskel and Ebert? Who gives a crap? Movies suck lately, and I'm not gonna renege on that because it's true. I haven't seen one movie in at least 10 years that has had any enjoyment past watching it once and not remembering it at all. It's all churned out dross at this point, and it's a formula that we've chosen with our money.

Entertainment is business.



I mean, no one's forcing you to like movies. It just helps in a discussion heavy environment to, y'know, be willing to engage with ideas more complex than 'churned out dross'. It's a reductive, boring statement and says more about you than current film.
Posted 8/1/15

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I mean, no one's forcing you to like movies. It just helps in a discussion heavy environment to, y'know, be willing to engage with ideas more complex than 'churned out dross'. It's a reductive, boring statement and says more about you than current film.


Yeah, of course it's my fault. Always is. I am Hollywood. I write the films. I act. I produce. It's me. You figured it out.

Posted 8/1/15 , edited 8/1/15

AiYumega wrote:


FargoDog wrote:


I mean, no one's forcing you to like movies. It just helps in a discussion heavy environment to, y'know, be willing to engage with ideas more complex than 'churned out dross'. It's a reductive, boring statement and says more about you than current film.


Yeah, of course it's my fault. Always is. I am Hollywood. I write the films. I act. I produce. It's me. You figured it out.



I know you didn't ask for it but just pay the guy, Ai.

I keep saying you're a troll but the mods leave you alone. your statement was just bait.
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Posted 8/1/15 , edited 8/1/15

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My guess would be that they will try to fit the entirety of Naruto (not including Shippuden) into a single movie, like that one live action movie. *cough* Dragon Ball Evolution *cough*


Yeah. Who can forget about Dragon Ball Evolution?! As for "Naruto" live action movie, I'm not surprised at all. I don't want to be super negative. Do I think "Naruto" will be an decent live action movie (same goes for Ghost In The Shell)? I don't know, I'll wait & see how it turns out.
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Well Hollywood has given us GitS type movies all the time, so it really depends on how much of a budget they are willing to put into the project; if we get the budget that Edge of Tomorrow got, then we should be fine.

As for Naruto, the three options I see are:

1) Get a Naruto Movie movie - Naruto fighting some Hollywood original character. (Probably the best option)

2) Get a Naruto Series movie - Like I said above, just cram the whole series into two hours, thus skipping a lot of stuff. Unless we have the Zabuza Arc as the ending.

3) Get Naruto Evolution - We get a loose adaptation, set in modern times, about a boy who wants to be the president of the ninja fight club, or something stupid like that.
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I'm almost too infuriated to give my opinion about this bad idea, but if they really want to make something that works they need adapt it like they did the Ruroni Kenshin live action movie. Otherwise, we will somehow get ninjas in helicopters with guns, which I know Kishimoto would never approve. If they're trying to give the American mainstream a chance with this movie they definitely may do something crazy like this. Or the above...

I don't see why though the anime creators can't do what Dragon Ball Z did with its new movie Battle of the Gods. It came here fully animated with a completely English dub cast, unfortunately, I never got to see it but that's because they did a limited viewing over four days. Sigh... Why make an animated series live action when it is clear they do better animated usually?
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Posted 8/1/15 , edited 8/1/15

Ejanss wrote:

Lionsgate doesn't "work on movies", they're an indie company who distributes the movies made by other people--
In this case, Avi Arad, who had to get some work of his own after leaving Marvel, and cast white people in his Ghost in the Shell movie.


Lionsgate is not indie. They're top films are all franchises (Hunger games, twilight saga, expendables, Divergent)

I also don't understand all this "they better not cast white people" stuff. These guys are making a movie that has the source material from Japan. Their goal isn't to keep to the source material, it's money. No matter what anybody says Film is a BUSINESS and thus they look to invest. Not only that, but they cater to the larger audience, not the minimal anime/manga fans, so obviously they'd make it Americanized. The problem is not all anime translates well over here, example: dragon ball evolution. I still think dragon ball shouldn't be live action, it just doesn't work. However, titles like All you need is kill had the english translation "Edge of Tomorrow" or "Live Die Repeat" since their marketing changed the name of the movie when released on dvd and blu-ray. Anyway, they cast Tom Cruise as the main character and as far as I know not many people objected to that.

Edit: only the first sentence was directed at the quote, the paragraph underneath was just my thoughts on the thread
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