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Just got back from the dentist. As soon as I sat down in the dentist chair, the local news started playing this story on the TV. Fucking really?

That appointment was so horrendous though.


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Yes. But I don't think it is their fault. Wimpy children are raised by overprotective parents.

Still, you look at them sometimes and wonder how they don't realize they themselves are behaving.


Oh I completely agree it isn't their fault. It's the parents and people that treat them with kiddy gloves and excuse all of their destructive and harmful behavior on their conditions.
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Morbidhanson wrote:

Yes. But I don't think it is their fault. Wimpy children are raised by overprotective parents.


that is also true. Kids grow up not knowing how to do anything, having no self-discipline whatsoever, and super dependent on their parents.


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anzn wrote:

You'll get arrested for not being white, able, or cisgendered. :/


Let's keep the bigotry to ourselves please.

How is that bigotry

You guys are too sensitive.


Yes it is.

And you're one to talk.

and what the heck is "cisgendered"?? Sorry, not googling that, I already know it's another term made up by kids who simply just haven't figured out who they are yet. That's called growing up.

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Can ADHD even count as a disability? It's so common, seems minor for most, and people can be mistaken for having it. I was diagnosed for having it when I was in elementary school but, it turns out, I never had it and they just assumed I did because I always talked with people as opposed to paying attention. I could easily pay attention I just choose not to. It reminds me of that South Park episode.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsGkk1GGw3w
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About the ADHD diagnosis watch this:

https://youtu.be/zDZFcDGpL4U?t=3m37s

I do recommend watching the entire video though, it's a fantastic look on our shitty public education system. He's fantastic and I'm not surprised he won an award.
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On the one hand, I will agree that it seems a lot of modern parenting coddles children too much... However, I don't think that simply encouraging more use of corporal punishment is necessarily the best solution.

My father in particular beat the tar out of me on a few occasions as a boy, sometimes for something I actually did, sometimes not. I don't honestly believe it corrected any behaviors, but I do credit it with playing a role in the destruction of my relationship with a man I've not really spoken to in over ten years.

I really don't know the best answer; just one more reason I can't ever see myself wanting kids.
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anzn wrote:

You'll get arrested for not being white, able, or cisgendered. :/


You just need someone to say, "so fucken what?"
Get over it.
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I have ADHD about work. Give me money and pills please.
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Hey hey hey guys I'm pretty sure I'd be ADHD if I was diagnosed too it's just that we're more hyper and the police these days are just of lower quality...
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Hmm... ok first off what did the kid do.... did he do something which in a situation with an adult would see handcuffs come into use?

if so them thats a proper reaction... ADHD has NOTHING to do with how law enforcement handles a situation... Law Enforcement cannot tolerate Violence, if the officer is at risk they have just cause... and while yes its a kid, restraint is the best option...

as for the method of cuffing, well, those can hurt no matter how they are put on and children will over-react to any pain in the first place. if the kid had done a outburst to merit that, probably would complain regardless of how they are restrained....

Yes little kid it hurts... remember that before you do something that stupid again.

as many have already said before, kids these days are WAY to pampered.

btw, i have been classified with "ADHD" since before the age of the kid in this video and never been stupid enough to do anything remotely like attacking a COP... i got into fights with other kids sure but such things are still pretty common without pulling "disorders" into the mix as imaginary causes or excuses.

my actions are my own.
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No one here is saying corporal punishment is the way to go. Restraining a kid from hurting himself and others is just being blown way out of proportion, especially compared to how things used to be. That's all.

There's a difference between a parent that gives in and allows/excuses misbehavior and another that addresses it, it often doesn't require physical discipline at all. Even if you have to, there's a difference between beating your kid and sitting on them until they calm down enough to listen (in this case handcuffing).

Next thing you know we're going to have headlines like "MOTHER LOCKS CHILD IN ROOM FOR HOURS TRAUMATIZING THEM!".


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Oh look a responsible human being.

Nice post mate.

Apparently the kid has been acting out for months and he got the point he was being destructive and violent. It got out of hand. After taking a swing at the officer he was handcuffed until he could calm down.
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In my elementary school, teachers would call the cops when children make a gun shape with your hands.

We even had an emergency conference and the whole school had to listen to the principle rant about it as if it was the most illegal thing in the world. Meanwhile there are a whole bunch of kids bullied into depression.
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In my elementary school, teachers would call the cops when children make a gun shape with your hands.

We even had an emergency conference and the whole school had to listen to the principle rant about it as if it was the most illegal thing in the world. Meanwhile there are a whole bunch of kids bullied into depression.


That's stupid. I see that stuff on the news too, with things like water guns. The kiddy gloves are real.
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I understand what the deputy was attempting. As a now educated and logical adult I see why he placed this child in handcuffs. The kid attempted to hit him, which is a big no. So he placed his handcuffs on the child and told him that he needed to behave himself and that that was not acceptable behavior.

However as a young child who was routinely in trouble for acting out (I was diagnosed with ADHD back around first grade, over ten years ago.) I don't know if the child understands exactly why it happened. Hell, I know I had no idea why I had to be dragged down a hallway because I was poking myself in the thigh with the point of a pen in 5th grade. I knew I wanted to see how long the ink would last after I removed the inkwell. My decision was to make dots until it ran out. The teacher thought I may be trying to hurt myself. I wasn't, i attempted to explain to the counselor what I was doing and was simply told to stop because it was bad. I had no cognitive way of understanding how it was bad.

I had a track record long before this and was constantly in and out of trouble. No matter what happened, my behavior ultimately didn't change until I got older and began to understand the world and others. That's not to say I'm fixed, I issued a death threat to one of my 8th grade teachers because I was doing a test and I had a pen and not a pencil. As for the child's traumatization, it can definitely be real. He's afraid of the officer now for possibly not understanding him. And his classmates most likely won't let him forget this occurrence.

The teacher or other school official could have been of more use, but if this was outburst number 50 this year, they're probably sick of dealing with this kid. You can supply them with all of the training you want, but they're human and will get fed up with crap. And that's when something happens that brings down media hellfire. The deputy could have been more understanding. But then again the kid may have been in a rage and not listening. In which case he needed to bring the kid down to some level of controlability. Locking him in a room by himself until he ran out of steam would be just as condemning as what happened.

And of course the handcuffs "hurt." Rigid metal rings pressing into the skin of your arms causing pressure on the muscles in the shoulder and upper back. For a child at that age I doubt he has a high pain tolerance. Was it the best way to solve the problem, not really. But there really isn't a good way to deal with this kind of thing.

I'll end this now as this is probably only somewhat coherent rambling from someone hungover.
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FlyinDumpling wrote:

In my elementary school, teachers would call the cops when children make a gun shape with your hands.

We even had an emergency conference and the whole school had to listen to the principle rant about it as if it was the most illegal thing in the world. Meanwhile there are a whole bunch of kids bullied into depression.


That's stupid. I see that stuff on the news too, with things like water guns. The kiddy gloves are real.
I wouldn't know, I wasn't raised with kiddy gloves
Posted 8/4/15
I'd love to see police go around with paint slapped on their faces and dressed as clowns. Would really do a number to some kid's brian.

"You don't get to swing at me like that," the deputy says as the boy cries. "You can do what we've asked you to, or you can suffer the consequences."

Wat a mug. It's not like this little kid can do you much harm if he hit you a little.
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