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Post Reply Aoharu x Machinegun hits a bit close to home
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I'm a closeted transgender person, so, this show is really hitting home for me in a strong way.

Even though the whole situation that Tachibana finds herself in is a bit contrived, it's still relevant to me: having to 'pass' as a gender that doesn't match your mental state is an extremely frustrating experience.

What I appreciate is that the show hasn't tried to gloss over the experience that she's being put through. She's got to pretend to be male even though her mind is screaming "I'm a chick!" at her the entire time. She does it out of wanting to be accepted by people and not written off as a cross-dressing freak.

It's just something I can relate to.
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Wow, it hits so close to home that you can't even get the name right.
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Well, Ms. kdroberts, aren't you a ray of sunshine?

Get over yourself. If you've got nothing genuinely constructive to post, please, find someone else to troll.
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Best transgender character.

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Don't forget Awashima



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Debeant wrote:

I'm a closeted transgender person, so, this show is really hitting home for me in a strong way.

Even though the whole situation that Tachibana finds herself in is a bit contrived, it's still relevant to me: having to 'pass' as a gender that doesn't match your mental state is an extremely frustrating experience.

What I appreciate is that the show hasn't tried to gloss over the experience that she's being put through. She's got to pretend to be male even though her mind is screaming "I'm a chick!" at her the entire time. She does it out of wanting to be accepted by people and not written off as a cross-dressing freak.

It's just something I can relate to.



kdroberts wrote:

Wow, it hits so close to home that you can't even get the name right.


Wow, that came across really rude you know. I've fixed the title -- just one letter was off, typos/misspellings happen, and users can't change titles after they post. really no reason to use a whole post to do nothing but point that out.

On-topic: I didn't realize this show would connect to people that way. Was interesting to hear, so thanks for posting Debeant. I wonder how many others have that experience watching it.
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I have a similar experience actually. I'm a closeted trans person myself, and can relate to some of the things Tachibana does and goes through. I wish they were an actual trans character themselves, but that would never happen.
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Charizam wrote:

I have a similar experience actually. I'm a closeted trans person myself, and can relate to some of the things Tachibana does and goes through. I wish they were an actual trans character themselves, but that would never happen.


I am curious do you think Tachibana doesn't want to be a woman or she just does this to be on Toy Gun team being a straight male I always thought she does it to be on team. I haven't heard her actually say the words I wish I was a man but that doesn't mean anything either. In the begining of the anime they showed her more at her school with her good friend another female but that was it. I thought for sure another women would call her out when they were doing capture the flag but she was fooled also. I think for a show to reach another type of audience is awesome so anything to add would be appreciated
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Debeant wrote:

Well, Ms. kdroberts, aren't you a ray of sunshine?

Get over yourself. If you've got nothing genuinely constructive to post, please, find someone else to troll.


There is a difference between "trolling", and "Telling annoying people off to their face". (Especially in cases where "Get over yourself" can be interpreted as particularly ironic and/or hypocritical.)
For example:


Debeant wrote:

I'm a closeted transgender person, so, this show is really hitting home for me in a strong way.

Even though the whole situation that Tachibana finds herself in is a bit contrived, it's still relevant to me: having to 'pass' as a gender that doesn't match your mental state is an extremely frustrating experience.

It's just something I can relate to.


Well, if it bothers you too much, try watching OTHER SHOWS. Or, for that matter, developing other interests besides "Something I can relate to as a (insert LGBT splinter group here)".

For example, try Ranma Saotome's difficulties on Ranma 1/2...No, on second thought, we've already got too many danged gays trying to claim-jump a show "they can relate to", whether the androphobic Ms. Takahashi intended it to be or not.
(Which also applies to Ms. T using Ryuunosuke on Urusei Yatsura as an early draft for Ranma--As Mark Twain says, anyone looking for metaphor will be arrested, anyone looking for allegory will be shot.)


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Debeant wrote:Even though the whole situation that Tachibana finds herself in is a bit contrived, it's still relevant to me: having to 'pass' as a gender that doesn't match your mental state is an extremely frustrating experience.

What I appreciate is that the show hasn't tried to gloss over the experience that she's being put through. She's got to pretend to be male even though her mind is screaming "I'm a chick!" at her the entire time. She does it out of wanting to be accepted by people and not written off as a cross-dressing freak.

It's just something I can relate to.


Just to clarify the issue and bring down the Rainbow Mafia "He said something mean, lynch him!--Burn the bully, burn the bully!" hysteria a bit, before it gets blown to preemptively out of proportion:
There's what you think the show is, and what it actually IS. Like the Ranma example, the viewer bears only his own responsibility for the former, and has only himself to blame. To use the joke that's most often used in situations like this, "Reality, that's the part on the outside of the head."

Given the culturally puritanical breach between the sexes in Japan, especially at school age, there are a LOT of shows where boys find themselves forced to act out "girl" situations, either by accident or victim of circumstance, and girls find themselves in "boy" situations.
Ouran Host Club. Gonna Be the Twin-Tail. Yamada-Kun & the Seven Witches, or any of a thousand "body-switching" comedies where the girl character suddenly starts talking rude "boy" talk and the boy adopts "girl" dialect.
To the Japanese, who have such deathly fear of stepping outside their social role, this itself is an intrinsically hilarious premise...And unless Kunihiko Ikuhara directed it, that's pretty much all it was intended to be. To Japanese teen boys who have no idea how to be "sensitive" to actually talk to that girl, and girls who want to assert themselves enough to pursue their goals but were never encouraged how, it's a particularly ripe premise, and in the right hands, can exploit the premise for interesting funny or touching situations.
In AxM's case, it's particularly close to Ouran's case, where a girl has to disguise herself to gain the "advantages" of the unusual rules of a particular male-dominated world, something most actual biological Japanese teen girls sympathize with, well into their years working as coffee-ladies in a corporate business, for example.

But anyway--So you feel you've found your own "secret" interpretation that the author must have created to "hit home". That's nice. Although that doesn't necessarily qualify it for being accurate, it just makes it your own, and not free from being incorrect.
A diehard animal-rights PETA activist might look at Mister Ed and say "This is one of the most important shows ever aired on television, because it brings us face to face with what animals might say to us if they were allowed to express themselves, and how they might feel about (personal semi-off-topic three-hour lecture on animal rights)."
Wellllll........that's certainly one interpretation, and we sure do know where it came from. However, our reaction to hearing that might be more to the person and not to the interpretation, and raise suspicions that the person needed to open up their world perceptions a bit outside their own core interests if they wanted to have a constructive exchange of ideas on it with other people.
Or, as the rather overused popular expression has it (usually whenever there's some pop-culture gag about how many times Bugs Bunny or Disney's Genie dressed up in drag for humor), that he or she needs to "get over themselves."
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You, uh, have an awful lot of pent-up rage on this subject. OP just made a personal connection with the anime's protagonist. No more, no less.
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Whatever you get out of the show is good, that it is able to help you with troubles you have and all, but I think it is disrespectful to the series to try to frame the experiences of the characters and story in ways that the author did not intend.


Hotaru isn't claiming she is a male in a female body, she is claiming that she cannot achieve what she wants to achieve because her society doesn't take women seriously.



That is an entirely different struggle and theme, and trying to co-opt that theme or claim that the work is something other than what the author made disrespects the characters, story, and their creator, as well as demeans the actual topics the creator and the work might address.
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