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The issue with the "weeaboo" label.
Posted 8/5/15 , edited 8/5/15
I would only consider someone a weeb if they took everything too far. e.g. emulating language, culture etc but at the end of the day, what they do or how they act is none of my concern.

I don't see a problem in liking a particular culture, everyone does it in their own way through art, décor, study or whatever floats their boat. A friend of mine loves pretty much anything that comes from the Netherlands. I think it's just become an internet shaming trend to target those who like anime or other things originating from Japan. I believe "koreaboo" is becoming a thing now too.

It's all just a little silly. You like what you like, if someone's interests bothers you then don't interact with them. Live and let live.
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Posted 8/5/15 , edited 8/5/15
That moment when you replace your own culture with Japanese otaku culture, that's exactly when someone is a weaboo. You are not an anime character and you will never be, you can't live like one and you shouldn't, and if you do, then that basically means that you're automatically opening the door of all types of criticism ,therefore you should naturally accept all the hate.

It's just an insult, and like all other insults, you can't do shit about it. So the more you get used to it, the less fucks you will actually give and thus more comfortable you will feel, so just chillax and drop the defense-mode
Posted 8/5/15 , edited 8/5/15
Who the eff cares, people who use that term are stupid and retarded. There's no point in reasoning with them about it. It's not like they're perfect human beings.

Everyone aspires to be something. Who cares if someone wants to be Japanese? There's no shame in wanting to be one. It's not like they want to be ISIS or something, idiots.

Posted 8/5/15
Right.
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Posted 8/5/15 , edited 8/5/15

RenegadeVictim wrote:

Let me put this into perspective for you. Weeaboos are only found in the anime community because the insult stems from the fact that there are people out there who try to act like they're Japanese when they're not. They're the kind of people you find trying to pronounce Japanese words and either failing epicly at it or using the words in the wrong context. They're also the kind of people you find throwing Japanese words into an english sentence. They're also the kind of people you find who think they can speak Japanese because they've watched all the episodes of some mainstream anime like Naruto, for instance, in English Sub. While the subtitles are accurate, they also rely upon context, pronunciation and probably a bunch of other things I haven't mentioned. Someone who speaks the language fluently would be able to tell you more on that point.

Weeaboos are basically Wannabe Japanese. Anyone who uses the term outside of the anime community is using it on the grounds that it essentially refers to wannabes.

Whilst one can have an appreciation for a culture, a line does need to be drawn at some point.


This sums it up rather nicely. I tend to not be fond of people who try to appropriate Japanese culture and force mannerisms from anime into their everyday behavior. However, I think the label is overused and a lot of people who throw it around are just doing it to be negative and probably enjoy mocking others way too much.
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Posted 8/5/15
Weebs take anime obsession too far.
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Posted 8/5/15

woodygirl97 wrote:

Weebs take anime obsession too far.


Agreed, but I used it more on high school students. Those people that ran in the halls like ninjas, ONLY talked about anime, wore cosplay items a lot, stuff like that. Here's an image I found that can work on the matter.

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Posted 8/5/15
Who cares what someone else thinks of them.
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From the attacker point of view it simply does not matter. They do not care, they do not like anime, so ofc they are just going to ball everyone up together, if you are an asshole you are an asshole. This isn't a weeb thing really more of just how negative views work. Also, even within the anime community there is tons of splits. The term narutard comes to mind, these people are more likely to be called weebs within the community. These people are shown as anime noobs to most people and the hate for them is real. There are tons of negative things anime fans call each other even, it is just how it is on the internet. so of course non anime fans are going to put down anime fans. Even the fact that people are trying to say no we are different from weebs we are otaku, kind of porves my point.... Otaku is not even really a positive word in japanese.... it is like calling yourself a weeb but in japanese lol?

My point being is there is no reason why you should discuss these types of things with people who are not open about it, people have their opinions, I know people here would insult me cause I like X and not Y lol. The anime community is no different from those people who call you weebs, we don't accept each other all that well either, it is mainly just to do with being on the internet.

Yeah like that picture above about the differences between weeb and otaku... what is preventing me from adding at the end of otaku, but in the end the otaku still hate pretty much all non Japanese animation for no apparent reason so is still considered a weeb. (Ha I watch american animation! you don't!) See it is quite easy to turn things around just cause you like one thing is slightly different, you don't like "those kind of anime" You only like "Good anime" like grow up who cares like what you like don't try to put yourself in groups just accept your fan base as is. It is really bad to call certain people in you group insults like weeb but no I am different. We should never use that term, the fact we use the term is why others not part of the anime fandom use that term...

Welp I hope you enjoyed this post now see you guys later, go ahead be who you are, I might not like all the anime you like but I am glad people enjoy other shows that I don't...!
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Posted 8/5/15

OKIJIN wrote:


woodygirl97 wrote:

Weebs take anime obsession too far.


Agreed, but I used it more on high school students. Those people that ran in the halls like ninjas, ONLY talked about anime, wore cosplay items a lot, stuff like that. Here's an image I found that can work on the matter.



Even that picture is off. Western people use Otaku as a simple fan, while if you look up how it is seen and described in Japan, it's not quite that, it's more extreme than that, more pejorative.
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Posted 8/5/15 , edited 8/6/15
In my experience, weeaboo isn't used to address someone with an interest in Japanese culture, it's used to describe someone whose views of the country are completely rose-tinted and false. Have you ever seen the jokey parody of the weeaboo letter in an American context, where a Japanese guy is dressed like a cowboy and says he loves steak and wrangling cows and so on, in an attempt to sound American? That's kind of how weeaboos come across on the Japanese front, they follow all manner of stereotypes and end up coming across as racists themselves. Their intentions are pretty harmless, but there's a major difference between 'I appreciate this culture' and 'This country is fucking flawless. I love everything, and I mean everything about it.' They don't acknowledge stuff like the sexism over there and so on, or even act all knowing when they actually don't know a lot, they have an idealistic view of the country which is blind to its faults and that's why people mock them. Of course, that's not to say that the word isn't used incorrectly i.e. in the 'If you like anything Japanese you're a weeaboo' way, which is, well, wrong (seriously, there's nothing shameful about being a squid now and a kid now). But at the same time I've not seen appreciating the culture as a bad thing, so much as misinterpreting it and making yourself look like a fool in the process. It is a country like any other, it has its positives, and it has its faults, a weeaboo does not see those faults and often misinterprets the culture so you end up with a guy who thinks owning a katana and eating noodles in his kimono makes him Japanese just like all the other Japanese citizens. You can like Japan, you can even prefer it to where you live if you want, just don't go overboard.
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Posted 8/5/15

SunnyWindy wrote:


OKIJIN wrote:


woodygirl97 wrote:

Weebs take anime obsession too far.


Agreed, but I used it more on high school students. Those people that ran in the halls like ninjas, ONLY talked about anime, wore cosplay items a lot, stuff like that. Here's an image I found that can work on the matter.



Even that picture is off. Western people use Otaku as a simple fan, while if you look up how it is seen and described in Japan, it's not quite that, it's more extreme than that, more pejorative.


I know Otaku is a more serious subject over there. It's just another label in the states. But comparing an "american" version of an Otaku, they're more "normal" than what a weeaboo is. Otaku is more of a fan of japan and anime in the states and weeaboo is someone who just goes crazy over it. A bit too crazy. I'm all for cosplay and talking about anime but weeaboos just have their lives revolving around it and nothing else.
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Just an insult, pay it just as much mind as the next insult that gets created. Insults don't take the logic you're attempting to give them.
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Posted 8/5/15

Zenatyra wrote:

I'd say that there is a line where it stops being appreciative and starts being creepy, which is where I've always considered that label to come into play.
and I admit that the fact that I'm overly worried about crossing that line means that I'm probably pretty close to it. I mean, I'm learning Japanese so that I can study Shinto for my PhD, and concerns surrounding this kind of haunt me. But there is a line... somewhere...

If I had to put it into words it would be: idolizing the concept of Japaneseness.
so for example:
Learning Japanese is a great thing to do. Considering Japanese to be "better" or "worse" than any other language is not.
Liking Japanese food is great. If your reason is "Because Japan" then than isn't really.
Finding Japanese persons cute is great. Fetishism surrounding Japanese Identity is not.

All these things have one thing in common, when taken to extreme they remove the culture/people/language/etc. from context and treat them as something almost inhuman or deny the validity of the culture. When someone treats Japan as some kind of Utopia it's as insulting as anything else because it implies that it is somehow not real.
That's how I distinguish Japan-nerd from Weaboo

I try to stay on the appreciation side, and I haven't really gotten a whole lot of trouble for it. Though I do want people to call me out if I cross that line. I mean "Freaking Weebo, at least you tried" is better than spiraling out of control.


That's how I'd define it. The internet at large would probably say if you're into anything Japanese then that term can be thrown at you, but it's the internet. The internet is the playground of morons and idiots or geniuses who need somewhere to go where they can act like morons and idiots. You shouldn't take anything said by there seriously. 50% of people are just trolling. 49% are shooting from the hip with no real clue as to what they're talking about. The remaining 1% is a rounding error meaning there is nobody worth listening to online, even myself.

Step offline. Do you experience it there? If not, you're fine.
Posted 8/5/15 , edited 8/5/15

pirththee wrote:

Who cares what someone else thinks of them.


evidently, a lot of people. i guess even posting on forums counts -.-

It's okay, aliens will save us from ourselves xD
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