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Not sure what model the bayonet gun is based on. I think it's just the standard version they are using this week. I am definitely not an expert on firearms.


It's a Howa Type 64 battle rifle. It is old stuff indeed. From at least twenty five year old stocks for sure. One of the last to have the wood furniture, (stock and grip.) It's been superseded a couple times by newer arms. But still in service with some parts of the SDF.
The handguns are accurately drawn also. They're Mineba 9mm made in Japan under license from Sig Sauer in Switzerland.
Anime is really good on the equipment details. The smaller two door "jeep" is a Type 73 Mitsubishi, the larger Hummer like one that Itami usually is in is a Toyota MegaCruiser.
One note on the Helicopters. They are actually made in Japan by Fuji under license from Bell.


Huh, I was thinking that they where using FN FAL from the looks, never kept up on Japanese weapons because they aren't ones I can pay with.

I like my M77PS for Real Fuckin' NATO work.



Most Battle Rifles look pretty similar.

Belgian FN FAL.



US M14 (superior rifle to the M16A1 yet America dropped it for Vietnam. Not even the Vietcong would touch those rifles)



West German Heckler and Koch G3.





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The FAL or the C1 as we called it, man that brings back memories.
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UnholyKyono wrote:


VZ68 wrote:


Raspike55 wrote:


stark700 wrote:

Not sure what model the bayonet gun is based on. I think it's just the standard version they are using this week. I am definitely not an expert on firearms.


It's a Howa Type 64 battle rifle. It is old stuff indeed. From at least twenty five year old stocks for sure. One of the last to have the wood furniture, (stock and grip.) It's been superseded a couple times by newer arms. But still in service with some parts of the SDF.
The handguns are accurately drawn also. They're Mineba 9mm made in Japan under license from Sig Sauer in Switzerland.
Anime is really good on the equipment details. The smaller two door "jeep" is a Type 73 Mitsubishi, the larger Hummer like one that Itami usually is in is a Toyota MegaCruiser.
One note on the Helicopters. They are actually made in Japan by Fuji under license from Bell.


Huh, I was thinking that they where using FN FAL from the looks, never kept up on Japanese weapons because they aren't ones I can pay with.

I like my M77PS for Real Fuckin' NATO work.



Most Battle Rifles look pretty similar.

Belgian FN FAL.



US M14 (superior rifle to the M16A1 yet America dropped it for Vietnam. Not even the Vietcong would touch those rifles)



West German Heckler and Koch G3.










Also you get these.


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The FAL or the C1 as we called it, man that brings back memories.


You guys used it until you switched out to the m16 clone right?
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Ah the SVD Dragunov. Still in use today due to that reliable Soviet engineering.

You could also put the M21 into the list (technically) as it was an adaption of the US M14 into a semi automatic sniper platform. Basically anything that can chamber the 7.62x51mm NATO round can be called a battle rifle it seems.

Just love the detail that is being put into this show. What's going to happen when America decides to stick their nose in on the anime? Few Abrahams rolling round maybe?
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VZ68 wrote:


papagolfwhiskey wrote:

The FAL or the C1 as we called it, man that brings back memories.


You guys used it until you switched out to the m16 clone right?


Yeah it had a 'winterized" trigger guard so you could fire it with your mitts on and a maple leaf stamped on the receiver but it was '16 all the same. not enough metal in it to hold a fridge magnet. and I can't imagine using one to loft someone into an attic or over an obstacle like we were trained to do with the C1. If I were a character in Gate I'd be happy to have a battle rifle.

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Ah the SVD Dragunov. Still in use today due to that reliable Soviet engineering.

You could also put the M21 into the list (technically) as it was an adaption of the US M14 into a semi automatic sniper platform. Basically anything that can chamber the 7.62x51mm NATO round can be called a battle rifle it seems.

Just love the detail that is being put into this show. What's going to happen when America decides to stick their nose in on the anime? Few Abrahams rolling round maybe?


Not telling. too much fun.

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UnholyKyono wrote:

Ah the SVD Dragunov. Still in use today due to that reliable Soviet engineering.

You could also put the M21 into the list (technically) as it was an adaption of the US M14 into a semi automatic sniper platform. Basically anything that can chamber the 7.62x51mm NATO round can be called a battle rifle it seems.

Just love the detail that is being put into this show. What's going to happen when America decides to stick their nose in on the anime? Few Abrahams rolling round maybe?


Nope.

That's not a Dragunov.

M76, Or in my configuration, M77. 8x57 Mauser or in my case .308/7.62x51nato
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VZ68 wrote:


UnholyKyono wrote:

Ah the SVD Dragunov. Still in use today due to that reliable Soviet engineering.

You could also put the M21 into the list (technically) as it was an adaption of the US M14 into a semi automatic sniper platform. Basically anything that can chamber the 7.62x51mm NATO round can be called a battle rifle it seems.

Just love the detail that is being put into this show. What's going to happen when America decides to stick their nose in on the anime? Few Abrahams rolling round maybe?


Nope.

That's not a Dragunov.

M76, Or in my configuration, M77. 8x57 Mauser or in my case .308/7.62x51nato


My bad. It is indeed an M76, I took one look at the barrel and instantly thought Dragunov.
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I've been really impressed with how everything in the anime has been portrayed very accurately to it's real life counterpart. I might be wrong, but wasn't the writer a part of the JSDF?


The author is is a retired captain or colonel from the JSDF.

There is a lot of fun science fiction and fantasy books from retired military officers and enlisted men that gets the military (and it's equipment) right. Though, this is the first series I've run across from a Japanese officer.
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-Thistlek- wrote:

I've been really impressed with how everything in the anime has been portrayed very accurately to it's real life counterpart. I might be wrong, but wasn't the writer a part of the JSDF?


The author is is a retired captain or colonel from the JSDF.

There is a lot of fun science fiction and fantasy books from retired military officers and enlisted men that gets the military (and it's equipment) right. Though, this is the first series I've run across from a Japanese officer.


Hmm just curious but do you have a source or article I can read about the author?
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stark700 wrote:


dracphelan wrote:


-Thistlek- wrote:

I've been really impressed with how everything in the anime has been portrayed very accurately to it's real life counterpart. I might be wrong, but wasn't the writer a part of the JSDF?


The author is is a retired captain or colonel from the JSDF.

There is a lot of fun science fiction and fantasy books from retired military officers and enlisted men that gets the military (and it's equipment) right. Though, this is the first series I've run across from a Japanese officer.


Hmm just curious but do you have a source or article I can read about the author?


I can't find where his rank was mentioned, but this article talks about him having been in the JSDF and writing Gate after he was discharged. http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2014/12/19-1/video-gate-jieitai-kano-chi-nite-kaku-tatakaeri-fantasy-novel-gets-tv-anime-adaptation-in-2015
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They've really toned down the whole JDF stronk tone from the LN from what I've understood, I did find the scene with protecting the prisoners a bit hard to swallow...

Also I need all the brass, have you seen the price of .308 brass? Every time I squeeze the trigger now, I swear I hear seventy-five, seventy-five, seventy-five.
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They dropped It because the wood stocks would get swollen and break. I honestly think the m16a1 was a perfectly fine weapon suited for Vietnam.
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VZ68 wrote:

They've really toned down the whole JDF stronk tone from the LN from what I've understood, I did find the scene with protecting the prisoners a bit hard to swallow...


This was part of showing how respectful the Japanese, specially the military, are for other people's well being even defeated foes.

I have no doubt that if this were an American show, using an American unit, the same dialogue would have happened.
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