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Posted 8/7/15

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Without gmos millions would die of starvation


how?


Organic agriculture is not efficient enough to feed the numbers of people that currently exist. Gmo crops use less water and produce higher yields without them we could not sustain our current population.


Enough food can be produced for people using conventional methods (not necessarily organic). The problem is a due to distribution, not production. There's a reason why there's lobbyists and subsidies for corn etc. farmers. Most of the time they don't even turn a profit, but are forced into these contracts and massive debts to keep producing GMO crops. It's all business. That's all it is.


I personally think gmo crops are fine health wise. I don't buy the vegan propaganda that it is killing us and the planet however you are right there is a distribution problem with food. However organic agriculture will not sustain the numbers of people that currently exist. If you want to have a discussion on how to reduce the excess population humanly I am all ears but something tells population control is to taboo to be discussed here.


Yeah, I'm not so sure about the health risks either. Last year, here in California, we had a proposition to label all foods that were GMO as such. That doesn't sound too bad, right? Thanks to some good lobbying and misinformation that proposition was struck down. There's just something shady about a company not wanting to disclose something as important as what you're eating. Just something to think about. Population control is something else entirely, which you're right, is probably taboo. It's been shown that population growth decreases as the standard of living and earning power increases. There might be some solutions in there some where. It's a globalized world, there's no reason why there should be such a disparity in resources. I'm ready to be crucified now.
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People are fearful of MMOs because they don't want to get trapped inside one like Kirito.

Oh wait, I read the title wrong.

I'd rather have organically grown food since I don't trust the people who put chemicals in GMOs. However, finding food that ISN'T a GMO at a regular supermarket is rare these days. Bananas, strawberries, almost every fruit or vegetable you see when you're buying groceries has been artificially grown, usually to make them bigger than him they naturally are.
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Because both sides are blowing so much smoke on the topic that it is hard to find real, actual conclusive data for either side of the argument.
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People are fearful of MMOs because they don't want to get trapped inside one like Kirito.

Oh wait, I read the title wrong.

I'd rather have organically grown food since I don't trust the people who put chemicals in GMOs. However, finding food that ISN'T a GMO at a regular supermarket is rare these days. Bananas, strawberries, almost every fruit or vegetable you see when you're buying groceries has been artificially grown, usually to make them bigger than him they naturally are.


Using pesticides/herbicides and nitrogen fertilizers on crops is not the same as being GMO.
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Why have GMOs when you can have double Os!
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I am guilty of also reading it as MMO's...
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What people don't understand is they have no idea what they are putting in their body. I get some idea because I get reactions from quite a number of things, my blood sugar does things. Artificial sweeteners fuck my shit up more than regular sugar (not saying sugar is good). There was recently a girl who died from chewing too much gum because she had taken in too much artificial sweetener from it. 'Little amounts are safe for me though' you might think. They might feel safe now, but what is happening on the inside or what builds up in 20 years? No one can honestly say.

There's a film coming out in Australia called the Sugar Film, which is about a man eating 'healthy foods' full of sugar and giving himself fatty liver disease in the process.

So what am I saying? I am saying no one has a fucking clue. They might be safe and they might not be. We don't fucking know.
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n00bsaib0t wrote:


PhantomGundam wrote:

People are fearful of MMOs because they don't want to get trapped inside one like Kirito.

Oh wait, I read the title wrong.

I'd rather have organically grown food since I don't trust the people who put chemicals in GMOs. However, finding food that ISN'T a GMO at a regular supermarket is rare these days. Bananas, strawberries, almost every fruit or vegetable you see when you're buying groceries has been artificially grown, usually to make them bigger than him they naturally are.


Using pesticides/herbicides and nitrogen fertilizers on crops is not the same as being GMO.


I never said anything about that. I'm talking about food that is grown artificially. Sometimes that includes cloning. For example, the bananas you see in your local supermarket aren't real. They have significantly less seeds than real bananas grown naturally. They've been altered right down to their DNA and that product was cloned to mass produce those new bananas that you now see everywhere.

A lot of GMO fruits are designed to be bigger and last longer than the natural version.

I don't know where you got pesticides and fertilizers from my comment.
Posted 8/7/15 , edited 8/8/15
It really depends on what way of method something is genetically modified and there are a couple ways: one not so questionable and the other questionable in my opinion.

Traditional
Through just selective breeding in a way we are genetically modifying the plant in order to get the desired trait we want out of it such as: Higher yield, larger roots, larger flowers, certain colors, etc...

Non-Traditional
Forcing DNA from a organism into another Here are some of the methods done:
Using viruses or bacteria to "infect" animal or plant cells with the new DNA.
Coating DNA onto tiny metal pellets, and firing it with a special gun into the cells.
Injecting the new DNA into fertilized eggs with a very fine needle.
Using electric shocks to create holes in the membrane covering sperm, and then forcing the new DNA into the sperm through these holes.

Thoughts on the former


Thoughts on the latter


I'm all for genetically modifying things as long as it's done with caution and with the LONG term future in mind. Yea I don't think anyone is going to read all that but hey if you did cool, if not that's cool too.
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The real reason the general public distrusts GMOs is because they've watched a few too many movies. Despite the fact we all know zombies or some biblical plague aren't going to happen, in the back of our head we all think "well if it does happen it's because of some scientists doing shit to our food". And that subconsciousness slips into our, or rather the masses rationale.

The common folks don't care for the science or economic/political motivations involved, they just care about what they think they know and a majority won't bother too look up and study on subjects they agree or disagree with if they think what they already know is sufficient.
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I'd trust them alot more if they weren't so adamant at saying "Oh they're safe so we don't need to label them". They list all manner of crazy ingredients, why not have a little GMO sticker? I'm more concerned about long term affects of GMOs, and their little lab rats aren't near enough to convince me of them being healthy. There was a time where cocaine was healthy. And mercury. And smoking. I'd rather avoid the risk, no matter how minuscule it is. I know eating non-GMO has been going on for all of human history, and it seemed to work fairly well. If others want it? Go ahead! I won't stop you!
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I would just like to know the chemicals or the whatever being used to genetically mutate my food
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GMOs mostly have synthetic pesticides which the human body cannot register. The practice of GMOs itself has potential but, Monsanto is Satan Incartnate and would rather make a profit off consumers.
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GMO are really scary and deadly, unless we are talking about the new upgraded pot plants, then it's cool, allllllllllll coooooollllll.
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Another problem is people have no idea what "GMO" means. There are many ways to genetically modify food, you guys are all talking about one type of GMO. You can't use Monsanto as a reason to dislike GMO's because what there doing has no reflection on whether or not GMO's are safe. Their practices are a reflection on the inability or lack of incentive of the FDA and DOA to intervene when a company monopolizes a market.
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