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Post Reply So that Bernie Sanders guy was interrupted by a 'Black lives matters' group
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Posted 8/9/15

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Awesome. Thumbs up to the interrupter. I dont like politicians even ones ill probably vote for. Im all for going out and screwing with political stuff.


You can't vote, what are you yammering about.
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This will affect him in the eyes of independents which is what he is counting on. The fact he had to wait till they were done speaking projects weakness. If I was the one speaking and people came to interfere I would have had security remove them quickly and establish control.
From the AP

After waiting about 20 minutes, Sanders himself was pushed away when he tried to take the microphone back. Instead, he waved goodbye, left the stage with a raised fist salute and waded into the crowd. He shook hands and posed for photos with supporters for about 15 minutes, and then left.


http://news.yahoo.com/black-lives-matter-activists-disrupt-bernie-sanders-speech-225833965--election.html
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megahobbit wrote:

Awesome. Thumbs up to the interrupter. I dont like politicians even ones ill probably vote for. Im all for going out and screwing with political stuff.


You can't vote, what are you yammering about.


Ill be able to vote in the next election.
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Posted 8/9/15 , edited 8/9/15

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That's the second time this has happened. I don't get it. Sanders is definitely not the guy they should be targeting.

I agree.
People like them I feel like never heard the term "choosing between the lesser of two evils", something everyone should know if they wanna vote.
But compared to Hilary though, Bernie is so much better.


There's actually not a huge difference between Sanders and Clinton, I mean if this is anything to go by http://www.isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential/1156372851

Edit: And this: http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/hillary-clinton-was-liberal-hillary-clinton-is-liberal/


Clinton was one of the most liberal members during her time in the Senate. According to an analysis of roll call votes by Voteview, Clinton’s record was more liberal than 70 percent of Democrats in her final term in the Senate. She was more liberal than 85 percent of all members. Her 2008 rival in the Democratic presidential primary, Barack Obama, was nearby with a record more liberal than 82 percent of all members — he was not more liberal than Clinton.

Clinton also has a history of very liberal public statements. Clinton rates as a “hard core liberal” per the OnTheIssues.org scale. She is as liberal as Elizabeth Warren and barely more moderate than Bernie Sanders. And while Obama is also a “hard core liberal,” Clinton again was rated as more liberal than Obama.
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geauxtigers1989 wrote:


anzn wrote:



geauxtigers1989 wrote:

That's the second time this has happened. I don't get it. Sanders is definitely not the guy they should be targeting.

I agree.
People like them I feel like never heard the term "choosing between the lesser of two evils", something everyone should know if they wanna vote.
But compared to Hilary though, Bernie is so much better.


There's actually not a huge difference between Sanders and Clinton, I mean if this is anything to go by http://www.isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential/1156372851

Edit: And this: http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/hillary-clinton-was-liberal-hillary-clinton-is-liberal/


Clinton was one of the most liberal members during her time in the Senate. According to an analysis of roll call votes by Voteview, Clinton’s record was more liberal than 70 percent of Democrats in her final term in the Senate. She was more liberal than 85 percent of all members. Her 2008 rival in the Democratic presidential primary, Barack Obama, was nearby with a record more liberal than 82 percent of all members — he was not more liberal than Clinton.

Clinton also has a history of very liberal public statements. Clinton rates as a “hard core liberal” per the OnTheIssues.org scale. She is as liberal as Elizabeth Warren and barely more moderate than Bernie Sanders. And while Obama is also a “hard core liberal,” Clinton again was rated as more liberal than Obama.


There is no trust with Clinton. She says one thing and then turns around to her donors to reassure them that she is still on their side.
Posted 8/9/15

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Awesome. Thumbs up to the interrupter. I dont like politicians even ones ill probably vote for. Im all for going out and screwing with political stuff.


But that's just stupid. She's acting like a child and honestly should be embarrassed by such behavior. Not just her though the entire group is just sad. This guy hasn't done anything to deserve this, he's just trying to campaign. I don't like politicians, but I'm not gunna run up when Obama is giving a speech and start unnecessary rants about some fabricated shit about him.
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Posted 8/9/15 , edited 8/10/15

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There is no trust with Clinton. She says one thing and then turns around to her donors to reassure them that she is still on their side.


But as the article mentions, she has the voting record to back up her liberal credentials.
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megahobbit wrote:

Awesome. Thumbs up to the interrupter. I dont like politicians even ones ill probably vote for. Im all for going out and screwing with political stuff.


But that's just stupid. She's acting like a child and honestly should be embarrassed by such behavior. Not just her though the entire group is just sad. This guy hasn't done anything to deserve this, he's just trying to campaign. I don't like politicians, but I'm not gunna run up when Obama is giving a speech and start unnecessary rants about some fabricated shit about him.


What fabricated shit did they say against him? I honestly couldnt hear anything she said.

Me I respectfully disagree. I believe that there should be some f-you interruptions in government to make a point. To me thats impressive.
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megahobbit wrote:


Charizam wrote:


megahobbit wrote:

Awesome. Thumbs up to the interrupter. I dont like politicians even ones ill probably vote for. Im all for going out and screwing with political stuff.


But that's just stupid. She's acting like a child and honestly should be embarrassed by such behavior. Not just her though the entire group is just sad. This guy hasn't done anything to deserve this, he's just trying to campaign. I don't like politicians, but I'm not gunna run up when Obama is giving a speech and start unnecessary rants about some fabricated shit about him.


What fabricated shit did they say against him? I honestly couldnt hear anything she said.

Me I respectfully disagree. I believe that there should be some f-you interruptions in government to make a point. To me thats impressive.


I've found your perfect candidate of choice then:

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This will affect him in the eyes of independents which is what he is counting on. The fact he had to wait till they were done speaking projects weakness. If I was the one speaking and people came to interfere I would have had security remove them quickly and establish control.



I disagree. That projects patience and self-control. Bernie was giving them the chance to be civil, human beings but they continued to act like animals. Bernie wanted some respect and since he didn't get it, he didn't finish speaking. "If I was the one speaking" doesn't matter because you weren't the one speaking. Just because someone does something another way doesn't mean you need to make it something negative. Just saying bro.
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LONGNAMEYOUWONTMISS wrote:


megahobbit wrote:


Charizam wrote:


megahobbit wrote:

Awesome. Thumbs up to the interrupter. I dont like politicians even ones ill probably vote for. Im all for going out and screwing with political stuff.


But that's just stupid. She's acting like a child and honestly should be embarrassed by such behavior. Not just her though the entire group is just sad. This guy hasn't done anything to deserve this, he's just trying to campaign. I don't like politicians, but I'm not gunna run up when Obama is giving a speech and start unnecessary rants about some fabricated shit about him.


What fabricated shit did they say against him? I honestly couldnt hear anything she said.

Me I respectfully disagree. I believe that there should be some f-you interruptions in government to make a point. To me thats impressive.


I've found your perfect candidate of choice then:



Yeah but my preferred candidate would be someone who would usher in a anarchist utopia and not a complete and utter piece of shit.

I dont like my candidates interrupting each other I like the people interrupting the candidates. It keeps them one there toes and reminds all of us that the candidates work for us not the other way around.
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This is very clearly a calculated move taking advantage of Sanders' consistent ability to draw large crowds, but let's try looking at this another way. Perhaps this is more an opportunity to forge alliances and address constituents' concerns than a SNAFU which should be scoffed at as a disrespectful gesture. The key thing to understanding how Sanders ought to respond is his position in the race.

Bernie Sanders is the insurgent candidate in a Democratic primary race. That places him at a disadvantage against the Clinton campaign from the outset since the superdelegates and black primary voters have historically tended toward establishment candidates, meaning establishment candidates are almost assured to be the Democratic nominee before the first primary vote is even cast. If Sanders is able to place emphasis upon his credentials as a participant in the civil rights movement, put greater emphasis on the message against police misconduct and socioeconomic disparity he has already been expressing, and avoid rhetorical missteps such as embracing the phrase "All Lives Matter" (which entirely misses the point the Black Lives Matter movement is trying to make with its name, and Clinton was gravely mistaken for using it), Sanders would stand to remain at least a plausible candidate for the nomination.

The challenge, of course, is that these activists don't seem to have any particular political leanings and aren't affiliated with groups which the Democratic Party is already used to dealing with. In some ways that is a blessing for the Sanders campaign, because that means the Clinton campaign won't be able to simply pull the same levers and turn the same dials as establishment candidates before her have always been able to. Unfortunately, the fog surrounding what specifically the Black Lives Matter movement wants in terms of policy proposals and executive actions applies uniformly across the Democratic primary board. Clinton doesn't know what specifically to do or say, true. But neither does Sanders. That's something which will have to come to light in the days ahead, and Sanders will have to keep his ear firmly planted on the ground from here on if he wants to have a chance at the nomination. To be fair, he has asked for meetings with leaders within the Black Lives Matter movement. He's expressed interest in the movement and hasn't positioned himself such that he'll be unable to cooperate with them, and this event actually gave him an opportunity to allow activists within the movement to air their grievances without interference or resistance. Ultimately, this may prove to have been a boon for Sanders' campaign.

One thing a Bernie Sanders supporter certainly ought not do as this thing is coming together is rebuke the Black Lives Matter movement. That's only going to light a fire under his feet and create a divide between his supporters and a critical bloc of voters he absolutely cannot afford to lose.
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Posted 8/9/15

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J-POP187 wrote:

This will affect him in the eyes of independents which is what he is counting on. The fact he had to wait till they were done speaking projects weakness. If I was the one speaking and people came to interfere I would have had security remove them quickly and establish control.



I disagree. That projects patience and self-control. Bernie was giving them the chance to be civil, human beings but they continued to act like animals. Bernie wanted some respect and since he didn't get it, he didn't finish speaking. "If I was the one speaking" doesn't matter because you weren't the one speaking. Just because someone does something another way doesn't mean you need to make it something negative. Just saying bro.


That's one side of the coin and you're entitled to your opinion. I'm simply putting forth if by some chance he does get the presidency will he allow foreign leaders to speak over him? Would be pretty embarrassing to see him on the sideline and that will project weakness in the international community. If he spins this event into a positive good for him, that would at least show he could manage to navigate politics.
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Well #blacklivesmatter has made it clear that that gal is not affiliated with them....
also, she is a former Palin supporter.....

Investigate this stuff people.
Posted 8/9/15

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What fabricated shit did they say against him? I honestly couldnt hear anything she said.


It was an example thus why it came after the hypothetical situation about me ranting in front of Obama giving a speech.


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Me I respectfully disagree. I believe that there should be some f-you interruptions in government to make a point. To me thats impressive.


Except they're not making a point. They're making a scene and that's incredibly immature.
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