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Posted 8/10/15

VZ68 wrote:

I mix my beer with whiskey to calm the shakes.


The boiler maker cure for the bad beer. Yeah first time I made one of those was with my grand parents where visiting me while I was in the army they had this cheap beer and a half decent whiskey my grandfather refer to it as a drunks drink it is and it isn't sure as hell makes a crappy beer taste better.
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Well me personally I'm straightedge, and have been for years. I don't drink, smoke, use drugs, eat red meat, or drink caffeine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight_edge

That said, I'm not "militant", which means the people who go out and literally "enforce" these by beating people they see drinking or smoking, sometimes killing them, which marked it as a gang.

My motto - My life, my body, my ways. It should be that way for everyone.


this. don't partake in anythings either - drugs, alcohol, etc. never have. just never has been my thing.
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I'd love to see the study about permanent brain damage after one drink.

I like alcohol and tend to have too much sometimes, but I know alcohol can be harmful. Everything is poison in high enough doses. The dose makes the poison.
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Posted 8/10/15 , edited 8/10/15
Keep in mind I'm only trying to be informative and not condescending. That being said, alcohol is not a poison and it's stupid to believe the opinions of others without doing some research and cross referencing. No, it isn't addicting but the addiction to alcohol is real and is usually caused psychologically i.e escapism, trauma, depression, PTSD, delusions of grandeur. Most people have this misconception of the brain as being like a piece of Styrofoam that once damaged, can never be repaired. Brain damage can still occur if you act like a jack ass and let's say get into a bar fight. Which is probably why people think that it kills brain cells. Since the lifting of the prohibition the scientific community has done tremendous amounts of research on the effects of alcohol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpgpSIGIczc

that's the cliff notes version of the real study of alcohol.
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Probably been said a million times before, but anything taken in excess will harm you. Water, salt, soda, meat, you name it. Try to be a bit more careful in believing random studies online, a fair deal of them are over-exaggerated or entirely warped/fabricated for a personal agenda. Excessive drinking can damage your health and life as a whole. That being said, anyone trying to convince you that one beer will disable and ruin you is a bit of a nutter.
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That's absurd.
Alcohol will kill you if you drink every single day, no doubt, i mean if you drink really large amounts and you drink spirits.
And of course alcohol can kill you in one night if you drink a ridiclious amount, again spirits. Too much alcohol comsumed in too short a time will do it.
Now, i honestly believe that alcohol has done me some damage, brain damage i mean
But, i have been drinking for like 20 years and i've been a pretty heavy drinker for about 15 years and iam fine. Iam not stupid or retarded or anything (ok you could argue the amount i have spent on booze or all the hang overs and bad stuff that comes along with drinking is stupid) but iam not a brain damaged halfwit.
Although iam not sure if these studies suggest that brain damage caused by alcohol reduces ones intelligence?
I actually have become more intelligent with age. However, alcohol probably has effected my sainity. lol..
And it can cause depression.
EDIT: It may have effected my concentration. But i balme that on lack of sleep.

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Liquor is more likely to damage your liver then kill your brain since it is a complex sugar molecule you liver actually does the breaking down of it which is why it damages the liver but this takes years to occur. The only time it can actually lead to damage of the brain is if you drink enough of it to get alcohol poisoning, but even at this stage you don't kill off the cells they still work albeit not as well. You really have to get drunk to do this falling down and then some no really drunk blood alcohol level several times past the legal limit the .20 to .30 range and even then depending on the person this may not occur depends on how much water you are taking in as well while drinking.

As for only drinking once in a blue moon thats fine been that way myself since the last time I really had a bender I don't do that anymore I worried way to many people and was hung over for the better part of 4 days. Yeah it was a fun weekend, that I needed to blow off a lot of steam. Now I will have a beer or two and not much more then that no were near the pint of rum with coke,whiskey shot, beer and shots of soju that I did in my past. Here is the kicker I only did this three times a year at sci fi cons to de-stress from work.

Facts about alcohol poisoning. http://www.collegedrinkingprevention.gov/OtherAlcoholInformation/factsAboutAlcoholPoisoning.aspx

Oh I was also the guy everyone hated because I never got a hang over when I was young about 21 didn't get my first one until I was 29 I looked at my friends and said so this is what you all have been complaining about all these years. Never again sigh I couldn't see straight for three days.


I have never had a hangover, even in the days when I exercised less judgement and consumed enough that I couldn't remember that night or part of the next day. My uncle was a sheriff and one night I even won a bet against him. I bet him that I would blow lower on a breathalyzer than I ought to in less time than it normally takes. He watched what I drank and we tested me an hour in. It wasn't as high as it should have been. Of course I also wake up during surgery (three times now), most pain relievers don't work even at higher doses (I've had acetaminophen, ibuprofen, Vicodin, Percocet, codeine, probably a few others I can't think of), and my doctors usually have to give me higher doses of several types of meds to get them to work. It would probably have proven handy if I lived in the dark ages or was a target for poisoning, but it isn't much use in modern times outside of winning a few bets. I figure that eventually my bizzaro ability to metabolize this crap like lightning will fade, but I'm in my mid thirties and it is still going strong. I just hope I never need heart surgery, I sure as hell don't want to wake up during that!
Posted 8/11/15

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Alcohol is poison?

I'll drink to that.


10/10 I lol'd
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Posted 8/11/15 , edited 8/11/15

PrinceJudar wrote:

Alcohol is poison?

I'll drink to that.



*Raises wine glass*

But yeah, it's poison, so what?

It really doesn't make an impact on you at all unless you drink like an absurd amount. Liquor can even have health benefits if drank in moderation. Not saying I do that either, university life is a little wild sometimes. However for a lasting effect you'd have to be a major alcoholic.
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My dad used to be an alcoholic. Quit cold turkey when my brother was born, 24 years ago. My mom has been an alcoholic for many years now but she just recently started going to AA meetings and stuff like 2 months ago. She's doing good and I'm impressed. Is it poison? I'm not sure on the definition of poison. But if it has poison in it then it's a very, very tiny bit. Some people drink wine until they're in their 90s or even 100s.

It's a choice to pick up the bottle. You do or you don't.

Just don't be one of those weak minded people saying that you "can't stop" when physically, you can.
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And oxygen the one great need for our life is also an oxidizer and is slowly breaking down all our cells... Practically everything in large enough doses is fatal or damaging to humans. The key as with all other things is moderation
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My family has a history of alcoholism. That's why if I drink I TRY not to do it too much, and also not too frequently. The saving grace is that I am the lightest lightweight in the history of all lightweights, so who knows, I may not end up developing a problem. Last year I was on the verge of starting to drink to solve my problems, but I didn't go through with it and compelled myself to stop, even though it seemed at the time like an easy way out, the alcohol I thought could numb the pain, etc. My paternal grandma - my nana was an alcoholic at one time, my father lived with her when she was getting help for it, and I'm pretty sure even though she was long sober when she died it affected her in the long run, she ended up with Alzheimer's and other issues. Bless her soul.

I admit when things go really poorly, even now, I do occasionally think about digging around for a bottle and opening it, even if it'd make my father fume and probably ground me, so that I can rid myself of feelings. I think alcoholism is a mental illness, like almost all addictions are. It's probably in your head that you know you can stop but your brain tells you you don't want to. The seeming antidepressant properties, or the numbing sensation, give you the idea that it's easier to just keep downing drinks until you feel yourself go limp. That's how it was for me. And actually, under the influence when I was depressed I got worse in terms of moodiness.
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My family has a history of alcoholism. That's why if I drink I TRY not to do it too much, and also not too frequently. The saving grace is that I am the lightest lightweight in the history of all lightweights, so who knows, I may not end up developing a problem. Last year I was on the verge of starting to drink to solve my problems, but I didn't go through with it and compelled myself to stop, even though it seemed at the time like an easy way out, the alcohol I thought could numb the pain, etc. My paternal grandma - my nana was an alcoholic at one time, my father lived with her when she was getting help for it, and I'm pretty sure even though she was long sober when she died it affected her in the long run, she ended up with Alzheimer's and other issues. Bless her soul.

I admit when things go really poorly, even now, I do occasionally think about digging around for a bottle and opening it, even if it'd make my father fume and probably ground me, so that I can rid myself of feelings. I think alcoholism is a mental illness, like almost all addictions are. It's probably in your head that you know you can stop but your brain tells you you don't want to. The seeming antidepressant properties, or the numbing sensation, give you the idea that it's easier to just keep downing drinks until you feel yourself go limp. That's how it was for me. And actually, under the influence when I was depressed I got worse in terms of moodiness.


It's rough, I had to stop for awhile myself, started wanting to drink more and more, and harder and harder stuff, then the shakes and water blisters starts showing up on my hands...

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I know addiction first-hand. The feeling that, "I'm not quite happy unless...(insert harmful, temporary emotional boost. Because F it.)."

It's hard to overcome because addiction, in my experience, is a symptom of depression/anxiety. You need to fix the ailment before the symptoms go away. Otherwise, you just keep treating the symptoms, like taking cough syrup forever without ever recovering from the cold.

But at the same time, addiction is part of the healing process. It can help you realize how far you've fallen and where you need to go. My only advice for addicts is...to cope however you can to help, heal, and benefit others in the meantime, and hope that the fulfillment you find in those actions allows you to pursue happiness in other avenues.

Join a club, and make it a point to make the meetings (not hungover). Pursue a hobby or chore (like gardening or cooking) you enjoy that is better enjoyed sober than drunk or in pain. Date, mingle, and seek friends, despite former rejections. Find reasons to not drink that overpower the want (or in some cases, the need) to drink. Not speaking to "you," of course. Just...in general.

It's tough. Real tough.
But finding lasting happiness usually is, and it's real easy to turn to substances to supplement that elusive feeling.
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animegirl2222 wrote:

My family has a history of alcoholism. That's why if I drink I TRY not to do it too much, and also not too frequently. The saving grace is that I am the lightest lightweight in the history of all lightweights, so who knows, I may not end up developing a problem. Last year I was on the verge of starting to drink to solve my problems, but I didn't go through with it and compelled myself to stop, even though it seemed at the time like an easy way out, the alcohol I thought could numb the pain, etc. My paternal grandma - my nana was an alcoholic at one time, my father lived with her when she was getting help for it, and I'm pretty sure even though she was long sober when she died it affected her in the long run, she ended up with Alzheimer's and other issues. Bless her soul.

I admit when things go really poorly, even now, I do occasionally think about digging around for a bottle and opening it, even if it'd make my father fume and probably ground me, so that I can rid myself of feelings. I think alcoholism is a mental illness, like almost all addictions are. It's probably in your head that you know you can stop but your brain tells you you don't want to. The seeming antidepressant properties, or the numbing sensation, give you the idea that it's easier to just keep downing drinks until you feel yourself go limp. That's how it was for me. And actually, under the influence when I was depressed I got worse in terms of moodiness.


It's rough, I had to stop for awhile myself, started wanting to drink more and more, and harder and harder stuff, then the shakes and water blisters starts showing up on my hands...




When I was having my problems back then i would go from depressive to manic in a snap. And I was constantly, CONSTANTLY, in motion, rolling around and trying to keep myself active even if it still didn't necessarily make me feel any better during my low points. I often fell into a a dissociative state for no reason and snapped back with little recollection of what I'd done. Later I found out this was because -- a. I never drank any water, so i was running on almost pure alcohol, and sugar to boot, so I was completely dehydrated and LOOPY, b. I had deeper pressing mental issues that drinking mass amounts of vodka made WORSE (I didn't find this out until LATER, however), so ever since I've been warier about keeping my hydration levels up if I drink, to assure that I don't fall back into Crazytown. And also, that I don't drink by myself, because THAT is when shit tends to go haywire.

The sad thing is that I felt on top of the world during those episodes even if I'm pretty damn sure they endangered my health. I glugged down five soda and vodka mixes without a second thought, then like two more, no water, no nothing. I was scrabbling around looking for more alcohol when I ran out. When I admitted that to my dad after I began living with him, he was horrified.
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