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Posted 8/12/15
I liked the WWF. was a big time fan. I don't agree with experts that say WCW won the Monday night wars for a while. I always thought WWF was always kicking their ass. would love to hear what anybody else thinks
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Posted 8/12/15
Ratings-wise, WCW was winning until the Attitude Era finished them off.
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24 / M / St.Louis - USA
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Posted 8/12/15
WWF was more enjoyable and entertaining. I still remember "practicing" the wrestling moves, funny but painful.
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Back when Nitro started I was definitely a WCW fan. From watching episode 1 in the Mall of America through to the nWo, Sting going all Eric Craven, the awesome cruiserweight division and some of the really good workers they had, I'd say that yes for a time they definitely won the Monday Night Wars. But Vince upped his game around the same time that Bischoff lost the plot (and control of the creative team who were pushed around by the talent) and things went really bad for WCW. They still had some great matches in the later years but the writing surrounding them was awful and a lot of people (myself included) said "screw this" eventually and went to WWF to see Stone Cold and the Rock take off, to see Y2J jumps ship, to see Mankind and even to see Shane get chucked off of the titantron. In later years WWF had the best product without a doubt but back at the start of the war, it was all WCW.
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Posted 8/12/15
i read wcw as woman crush wednesday
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I was raised on WCW, so can't really comment on WWF from that era
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-lumiere wrote:

i read wcw as woman crush wednesday


Same
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Posted 8/12/15
So WWF is the World Wildlife Fund. I have no clue what the WCW was.
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30 / M / Portland, OR
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Posted 8/12/15
WCW was a short lived WWF rival from the early 90's to 2001 when it merged with the WWF. Women, Children, and Wildlife, had recently split off from the National Wildlife Association (WWF had done so a decade prior) and tried to put the WWF out of business by acquiring all of the WWF's top talent. Eventually mismanagement caused WCW to collapse and WWF bought them out alongside the other 90's NWA split off Ecology Champions Worldwide.
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WCW was the best for years 2 things killed WCW 1: Eric Bishchoff was good as the underdog but became to cockey, drunk with power, and lost control over creative control when Rosso came in. 2: when Turner merged with AOL& Time Warner WCW was there best ratings show but cost alot of money and was considered low brow so they sold it as soon as they could.
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DarkReaper66 wrote:

WCW was the best for years 2 things killed WCW 1: Eric Bishchoff was good as the underdog but became to cockey, drunk with power, and lost control over creative control when Rosso came in. 2: when Turner merged with AOL& Time Warner WCW was there best ratings show but cost alot of money and was considered low brow so they sold it as soon as they could.


QFT. My heart broke when Vinnie Mac and Shane O. showed on WCW when we all knew Bischoff's conglomerate was in negotiations to buy and very close to making a deal to keep WCW alive as WCW.

I was sad to see WCW go, I watched it from day one (as WCW) and for years before when it was the NWA/UWF (which were both stripped bare to become WCW). I miss the days of the Four Horsemen, the First Family and even the Dangerous Alliance. I was a heel fan from day one . When WCW grew into the place of heel factions (the NWO, Team Canada, Raven's Flock, the Varsity Club and even the Natural Born Thrillers) I had to go live whenever they came to town.
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I watched WCW during this era as a kid. WCW was better statistically during their winning streak. It's not debatable. They won the ratings battle 86 weeks in a row.

WCW had the more entertaining product during their reign at the top for several reasons:

1.) They had almost all of the famous stars from the 80s and early 90s. During their run at the top, they employed at the same time Ric Flair, Dusty Rhodes, Hulk Hogan, Randy Savage, Sting, Roddy Piper, Paul Orndorff right before it. They had everybody not named Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, and The Undertaker who was big at the time.

2.) They had a stacked undercard. One thing that people underrate in WCW Era (mainly because they matches typically didn't generate a lot of buzz with the crowds all of the time) was the fact their undercard basically held every wrestler who was any good and a who's who of great technical wrestlers of the modern era. Chris Benoit, Eddie Guerrero (while he was decently healthy), Rey Mysterio before all the wear and tear, Psicosis, Jushin Liger, Juventud Guerrera, Chavo Guerrero, Billy Kidman, Perry Saturn, Dean Malenko, Chris Jericho...If you wanted to start a wrestling promotion in the 90s and wanted sound technical wrestling, these are the guys you wanted on it. These are the CM Punks, the Daniel Bryans, the Chris Heros, before those guys all existed. Even better, they all wrestled different styles, so when you got to the main events, you weren't burned out with the Mid South punch-kick-punch-kick-punch-kick-finisher Style. WWF/E at the time tried to instill the same vibe with their Light Heavyweight Division but never put the same effort in it and obviously couldn't employ the same talent.

3.) Their storylines were better in 1996/97. This has been stated by people within WWF/E, themselves. The WWF/E of 1996 was still thinking it was the 80s, but all of those fans had grown older and started enjoying more adult-oriented things. Shawn Michaels as a mini Hulk Hogan in terms of celebrating with fans and being humble and conservative wasn't cutting it, anymore. It's why Bret Hart turned heel at 'Mania 13.

4.) They had the money. Ted Turner owned WCW. It's easy to get guys and keep them complacent when you're guaranteeing their contracts, something WWF/E still doesn't really do, even with their top guys. Most of the money wrestlers make is merch-based. If people buy your products, you get a fatter check. Yes, Cena is still guaranteed $3 million and a myriad of other benefits, but most guys have to pay for their own travel, hotels, ring gear, etc. They don't just get that in their contracts.

However, a lot of what helped WCW also hurt WCW.

1.) They had all of these stars from the 80s and 90s and introduced them in new ways...but they also never produced any new stars. Other than Goldberg, there weren't any wrestlers who became successful top guys during the WCW Mondy Night Wars. The ones that could've succeeded were pushed down until they left. They even had under contract two of the biggest stars of WWF/E's Attitude Era in Steve Austin and Triple H at one point.

Also, taking WWF/E's top stars made a big gaping hole in the top of the card in WWF/E. If Savage, Hogan, and Nash all stay within WWF/E, You don't have much room at the main event for guys. And one of the unspoken things for The Rock and Triple H is...how lucky both guys were to come up when they did. Seriously. If Bret Hart doesn't leave, Austin doesn't break his neck, and HBK doesn't sit out for 4.25 years with a back injury, The Rock and Triple H might just be hitting the twilight of their careers, now. We may have never had Austin vs. Rock, because you'd still have HBK and Bret wrestling in main events. Rock may actually be what John Cena currently is, to be honest. Triple H may have had an easier ride up, because he was allied with Shawn who was in Vince's ear, but he still would have had to leapfrog Shawn, which probably wasn't going to happen that quick, had he not gotten injured.

2.) Similar to the above, because they didn't push new talent, the undercard guys got restless because they knew they were deserving of an upper-card spot. Once they all started evacuating WCW, the undercard supporting the main events began to crumble, leaving the top floor to collapse beneath it.

3.) WWF/E caught lightning in a bottle with Austin vs. McMahon. A blessing and a curse, because it brought forth the most lucrative period of wrestling...but also has gotten the current WWF/E so reliant on it that every storyline eventually boils down to Underdog X vs. Authority Figure Y. WCW had a similar issue with nWo, because they were so reliant on nWo to generate ratings that every storyline eventually involved them, for better or worse.

4.) Although Turner owned WCW, it was not the forefront of their concerns. TBS also aired a lot of baseball and basketball and other programming that constantly pre-empted Monday Nitro or caused production crews that would normally work on Monday Nitro and used to the fast pace and step-ahead production pro wrestling television requires were suddenly working on more important (to Turner and co.) projects that forced WCW with a paltry production crew in comparison to WWF/E which had the same team working constantly. A minor issue in comparison to the above, but the little issues added up.

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One last thought - It's hilarious to watch WWF/E rewrite history just because they won the Monday Night Wars. For instance, DX is not nor never will be equal to what nWo was. DX was instrumental in business for wrestling in the WWF/E; nWo was instrumental in business for wrestling in the United States. The only reason DX is even vaguely comparable is because WWF/E has brought it back so many damn times in recent years that they only get close via longevity, and even then, it basically allows them to be in the same sentence, nothing more.
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Posted 8/12/15
I loved WCW because they had the better wrestling period. Even watching the WWE now their wrestling still isn't as fun to watch. The story lines are pretty good but the wrestling itself is still seriously lacking.
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Posted 8/13/15 , edited 8/13/15
WCW man. Their matches, though sloppy, got pretty physical. Especially when Goldberg hit the scene. That was the beastiest wrestler there has ever been in my opinion. It took a while(and tons of acquisitions) for WWF to have matches like that.
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