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How is there actually an existence?
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Truth is that we have about as much of a chance of knowing what was before the big bang as we do of knowing what's past the edge of the universe. It's best not to speculate about things like this because it is far beyond the ability to ever scientifically prove, however if you want to say screw it to the science and go with a philosophical and or religious answer then there are plenty of "answers" out there. But if you like science and cold hard facts you will never be able to achieve that even if you were able to live forever and devoted every second of every day for the rest of time you would still not be able to reach those type of answers. It is sad and that's why people created religion and philosophy so if you want an answer that's were you find it.
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I don't know I'm waiting for the Hologram theory tests to be completed.
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We're made of pixels. We're the same as aliens, nooo :(.
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Well I said I'd rather not have a discussion about god but even then you could still trace back, what is before god?
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I think therefore I am.
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Well if anyone were to take the concept of a chain reaction. That would probably be the best way to understand how what we see came to be. Ignoring all the complicated math, chemical reactions, dark matter somehow existing outside of our realm and ect.

I look at it as, it was a chain reaction. But that brings us to what your asking. How did it start? Well.......I have no idea. Even if we put all our nuclear bombs together, it probably still wouldn't even be on a small scale version of the Big Bang. We might have a crack at understanding gravity long before we can even begin to understand how the big bang could happen at all.
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Personally I don't like to dwell on things like this, as long as I am happy I don't care. I just want to live my life even if it isn't real or whatever cause its real to me
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Seeing this thread made me reeeaally happy. I'm always wondering this. I never get anywhere in my thought process but it's fun to wonder anyway.

How does existence exist at all? Like, you can't say that in the beginning there was nothing, because nothing is still something. We can comprehend the existence of nothing. How did that nothing come to exist? What is anything?
You might be able to explain it by saying our universe is a dream or a simulation of sorts since if that's the case there doesn't need to be an explanation for everything. In dreams and simulations things are as they are just because. It's not a fully fleshed out reality and will ultimately be over or forgotten soon, so our own existence might be unexplainable because it's also not a fully formed reality. It exists as part of something bigger in a reality that is fully fleshed out, in which they might actually be able to discover their reason for existence.

Or it could be that humans just don't possess the ability to find out exactly what the universe is. There are sounds we can't hear and things we can't see. There are things we think exist based on flaws technology has picked up but there's no definite way we can prove they exist because we can't sense them. Maybe the keys to existence lay in those things we can't sense.
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I've always rationalized it by thinking of creation as cyclical. You get the big bang, starting everything off. But the universe continues to evolve until something happens to either spawn a new universe or recycle the old one. Maybe that leads to another big bang or something else entirely. I'm not sure if that's true but physics tells us that energy can not be created or destroyed, meaning it has always existed. Only the form it takes changes.
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"God"

i put it, whatcha gonna do son
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I'll be lazy and say, maybe we simply aren't meant to understand the universe. We can make all the assumptions we want, but the fact that we simply can't say for sure stands. Maybe everything we believe to be true is false and we have to completely rethink everything from scratch. All we can do is live our lives and I for one think that pondering why or how things are is a distraction and I should focus on the here and now.
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Sogno- wrote:

"God"

i put it, whatcha gonna do son


I'm going to lick the top of your ear.
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Pawlitics wrote:

Seeing this thread made me reeeaally happy. I'm always wondering this. I never get anywhere in my thought process but it's fun to wonder anyway.

How does existence exist at all? Like, you can't say that in the beginning there was nothing, because nothing is still something. We can comprehend the existence of nothing. How did that nothing come to exist? What is anything?
You might be able to explain it by saying our universe is a dream or a simulation of sorts since if that's the case there doesn't need to be an explanation for everything. In dreams and simulations things are as they are just because. It's not a fully fleshed out reality and will ultimately be over or forgotten soon, so our own existence might be unexplainable because it's also not a fully formed reality. It exists as part of something bigger in a reality that is fully fleshed out, in which they might actually be able to discover their reason for existence.

Or it could be that humans just don't possess the ability to find out exactly what the universe is. There are sounds we can't hear and things we can't see. There are things we think exist based on flaws technology has picked up but there's no definite way we can prove they exist because we can't sense them. Maybe the keys to existence lay in those things we can't sense.


Glad to see the thread made someone happy. I like delving deep in these conversations with people. Even if it's just speculation.
I don't really like to think we can't comprehend the universe to its full extend. Even if it may be true I want to be able to. Even if it was a dream/simulation though, even that could be traced back to some existence which still doesn't knock the question. Which is why I love it.
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killerpanda3 wrote:

I'll be lazy and say, maybe we simply aren't meant to understand the universe. We can make all the assumptions we want, but the fact that we simply can't say for sure stands. Maybe everything we believe to be true is false and we have to completely rethink everything from scratch. All we can do is live our lives and I for one think that pondering why or how things are is a distraction and I should focus on the here and now.


Well that's one of the reasons I want to live. In our generation, or at least mine, we will most likely find prove that aliens exist. That alone is really awesome imo. I enjoy science a lot so I enjoy to live for that reason. It is part of the here and now for me. To grasp a true understanding of the universe would be to conquer the universe in a sense.
It's fun imo. But I don't like to say 'we can't'. Even if really can't.
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