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Posted 8/16/15 , edited 8/16/15

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That's a good point, so should the murder of the pregnant woman not count as murder then...? Thoughts...?

(Sorry, I like to play devils advocate a lot, it helps move the conversation! : )



Worded a tad oddly. But killing an unborn child against the will of the mother who has already probably started treating it as a human being, well, I think it deserves a tagging of murder.

http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/local/dallas-county/2015/06/03/four-arrested-for-beating-pregnant-dallas-teen/28394279/

Shit like that ain't right.

If the law doesn't get you, I would.
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Whether or not it's murder is largely an exercise in semantics and whether or not vernacular definitions mean a damn. Calling abortion murder, however, is a loaded statement in which case you're already calling abortion wrong (since, in the vernacular, murder means a wrongful killing) before discussion has happened.

Ultimately, I'd rather refrain from calling it murder since it just interferes rather than promotes discussion.
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Posted 8/16/15

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fashionvamp123 wrote:


RK_1234 wrote:

Some states if you kill an unborn child while committing a crime, they tag you with that as murder as well.



That's a good point, so should the murder of the pregnant woman not count as murder then...? Thoughts...?

(Sorry, I like to play devils advocate a lot, it helps move the conversation! : )


Not the woman, but her unborn child.



soooo, you think the unborn child should not count as murder????
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Posted 8/16/15

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fashionvamp123 wrote:

That's a good point, so should the murder of the pregnant woman not count as murder then...? Thoughts...?

(Sorry, I like to play devils advocate a lot, it helps move the conversation! : )



Worded a tad oddly. But killing an unborn child against the will of the mother who has already probably started treating it as a human being, well, I think it deserves a tagging of murder.

http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/local/dallas-county/2015/06/03/four-arrested-for-beating-pregnant-dallas-teen/28394279/

Shit like that ain't right.

If the law doesn't get you, I would.


AH YES! I had completely overlooked the feelings of the parent! *pats your back* That is a good point. If the victim and their families have certain beliefs, that could majorly change things. And yes, that sort of thing is pretty upsetting, at least to me.
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Yeah. We all know that babies aren't real people anyway.

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Posted 8/16/15

fashionvamp123 wrote:


RK_1234 wrote:


fashionvamp123 wrote:


RK_1234 wrote:

Some states if you kill an unborn child while committing a crime, they tag you with that as murder as well.



That's a good point, so should the murder of the pregnant woman not count as murder then...? Thoughts...?

(Sorry, I like to play devils advocate a lot, it helps move the conversation! : )


Not the woman, but her unborn child.



soooo, you think the unborn child should not count as murder????


i think that she means that when someone kildl a pregant woman, it's a double homicide, but when someone gets an abortion, it doesn't count as murder. That being said, i don't get why it's a double homicide. I think it should stay as a double homicide, so it won't make people get annoyed...
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Posted 8/16/15 , edited 8/16/15
It is an established scientific fact that life begins at conception.
Since life begins at conception, abortion is akin to murder as it is the act of taking human life. Abortion is in direct defiance of the commonly accepted idea of the sanctity of human life.
In the instance of rape and incest, proper medical care can ensure that a woman will not get pregnant. Abortion punishes the unborn child who committed no crime; instead, it is the perpetrator who should be punished.
Posted 8/16/15
It's not murder. It's termination of pregnancy.

It's stupid to continue pregnancy if it's ectopic, or the baby's severely deformed, or the persons been raped by family members or underage.
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DAMN, YOU BEAT ME TO IT.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unborn_Victims_of_Violence_Act Read this if you want, it deals with the law regarding a woman carrying a child that is a victim of homicide/crime/etc

You can't exactly ask a murdered woman what her intentions are regarding her pregnancy. Especially if it is in the very early stages. If it is in later stages, it would appear obvious her intentions were to birth the child.
Posted 8/16/15 , edited 8/16/15

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DAMN, YOU BEAT ME TO IT.
Different reaction img, but you beat me to it!


So who the girl ?
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All depends on how you view it. There is no right or wrong answer to this. Not going to bother debating such a trivial and unproven matter for either case.

Honestly, I'm more concerned with idiots getting an abortion because they are irresponsible with sex. No, I'm not talking cases where rape was involved or similar events either. People breed like rabbits these days, and usually it's the less intelligent people doing it. The murder or process of stopping a birth, whatever you wish to call it, doesn't bother me. It's the lack of accountability people have these days.
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So who the girl ?


That's Kim Taeyeon from SNSD or Girls' Generation, a Korean Pop group. Part of the big ol' kpop reaction gif folder I found.

Anyway as for the topic @ hand, no it's not murder, it's not exactly moral, but i say it's a necessary evil to keep crappy or too young people from having babies.
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