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Abe: Japan Will Apologize No More
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I agree with Abe, we're talking 70 years ago and ,as he says 80% of todays population werent even born then, and the figure would be higher if Japanese didn't have a tendency to live very long lives!! There have been ample apologies, and they shouldnt have to be bowing & scraping for the rest of eternity; it seems like another example of the West trying to lord it over the East. There needs to be apoint where everyone just gets over it!!
Besides, who else involved in that war is asked to apologize continually?? There were atrocities committed by ALL parties involved, and yet no-one is asking for constant acts of remorse from any other nation, are they??
It was 70 years ago, the past is the past, everyone was sorry, GET OVER IT!! Move on!!
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Have they admitted to crap like Nanking and other stuff, though? I heard they wouldn't' fess up to the LOT of that.

and they still treat war criminals like heroes. well Abe that is.
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animegirl2222 wrote:
Have they admitted to crap like Nanking and other stuff, though? I heard they wouldn't' fess up to the LOT of that.

and they still treat war criminals like heroes. well Abe that is.


The least i want them to do is fess up to that. God knows, American soldiers are demonized when rumors like that are afloat, but the Japanese have worse deniability than the germans when it comes to WWII crimes. Probably won't ever fess up to it, though.

I mean, at least germany has kind of TRIED to clear their past out, but the Japanese keep denying, denying denying like they never went around raping? Just admit it already, then we can move on. Them, the Koreans, and the Chinese don't get along worth shit anyway, but maybe things'd be a little less tense if Japan just said "hey, we did some really bad things", and move on.
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Japan can stop apologizing just as soon as it acknowledges it's role in all of it's atrocities during WWII."Comfort women" included. I agree that 80% of the Japanese current population was born after WWII so it's high time they did.
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Not true Abe denies the existence of Comfort women even when past ministers have admitted it happened.


So your rebuttal is one guy saying so... Okay. I'm done here. My point stands.

The point of history is to learn from it, not dwell on it. Something you kids will learn someday.


The "one guy" is the prime minister... who said the statement were talking about... Denying a war crime. Thats not learning from history its ignoring it.
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dotsforlife wrote:


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Not true Abe denies the existence of Comfort women even when past ministers have admitted it happened.


So your rebuttal is one guy saying so... Okay. I'm done here. My point stands.

The point of history is to learn from it, not dwell on it. Something you kids will learn someday.


The "one guy" is the prime minister... who said the statement were talking about... Denying a war crime. Thats not learning from history its ignoring it.


Pretty much this. Once they admit to the Chinese, Koreans, etc, that they screwed up then I think people can be a little less salty. It's been well documented that they raped and murdered many chinese + koreans, just admit that and move on. Japan's war crime deniability is the worst.

Like even the Germans were better about admitting what they did than the Japanese have ever been.
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Pretty much this. Once they admit to the Chinese, Koreans, etc, that they screwed up then I think people can be a little less salty. It's been well documented that they raped and murdered many chinese + koreans, just admit that and move on. Japan's war crime deniability is the worst.

Like even the Germans were better about admitting what they did than the Japanese have ever been.


In defense of Germans they have done the best anyone can ask of them post WWII giving $250 million reparations to holocaust victims just last year.
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Fair enough.
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The "one guy" is the prime minister... who said the statement were talking about... Denying a war crime. Thats not learning from history its ignoring it.


The rest of the world knows it already. I'm pretty sure he does as well, even if he says otherwise. You'd have to be an idiot to truly believe it didn't happen. I imagine he just doesn't care and wants to move on. Much like everyone should. I don't care for the guy simply because he's an idiot and I'm not fond of unintelligent people. Still like I said, move on from it. People have their heads pointed in the wrong directions these days...

To need to apologize every year for some shit that isn't a concern now is stupid and illogical. It's nothing more than pandering at this point. It would be like me demanding the that the men who raped a childhood friend of mine many years ago to apologize all the time. The situation was handled. It's a non issue now, just like this war crime.

In another decade or so, none of this will be nothing more than text in a book. Much of it already is.
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animegirl2222 wrote:

Pretty much this. Once they admit to the Chinese, Koreans, etc, that they screwed up then I think people can be a little less salty. It's been well documented that they raped and murdered many chinese + koreans, just admit that and move on. Japan's war crime deniability is the worst.

Like even the Germans were better about admitting what they did than the Japanese have ever been.


In defense of Germans they have done the best anyone can ask of them post WWII giving $250 million reparations to holocaust victims.


And I know few people who hold the Germans as a nation or race in 100% contempt to this day, because they at least offered reparations and have since cleaned up their nation, and their act, a lot more. Not to say sicko neonazis don't exist, but they are dying out quickly.

The Japanese think lying through their teeth is saving face, it just makes them look, in my humble opinion, worse. In a country where pride and face are valued so highly, the best thing to do is to just cram your mouth shut until the allegations become too overwhelming, but considering all these years they haven't caved...
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There is ZERO excuse in revising history textbooks in Japan.

www.nytimes.com/2007/04/01/world/asia/01japan.html
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dotsforlife wrote:


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The "one guy" is the prime minister... who said the statement were talking about... Denying a war crime. Thats not learning from history its ignoring it.


The rest of the world knows it already. I'm pretty sure he does as well, even if he says otherwise. You'd have to be an idiot to truly believe it didn't happen. I imagine he just doesn't care and wants to move on. Much like everyone should. I don't care for the guy simply because he's an idiot and I'm not fond of unintelligent people. Still like I said, move on from it. People have their heads pointed in the wrong directions these days...

To need to apologize every year for some shit that isn't a concern now is stupid and illogical. It's nothing more than pandering at this point. It would be like me demanding the that the men who raped a childhood friend of mine to apologize all the time. They were dealt with and they sought forgiveness. It's a non issue now, just like this war crime.

In another decade or so, none of this will be nothing more than text in a book. Much of it already is.


Except there is no text in the books.
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21226068
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There is ZERO excuse in revising history textbooks in Japan.

www.nytimes.com/2007/04/01/world/asia/01japan.html


While we're at it, why don't all countries display their actual history? I'm sure many of our fellow Americans would love to be enlightened on many events we don't share. Every country tries to paint itself in a good light. Doesn't make it right obviously, but it's not surprising.
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Except there is no text in the books.
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21226068


Probably not in Japans books. Luckily, Japan isn't the only one with books these days.
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Except there is no text in the books.
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21226068


Probably not in Japans books. Luckily, Japan isn't the only one with books these days.


...Thats not an excuse for not teaching and acknowledging this stuff. Thats basically saying "We dont need to teach sex ed in schools thell learn it elsewhere" except theres a vast difference between WAR CRIMES and sex.
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