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Posted 8/17/15

Irishsushi wrote: So if he tased him you'd be better with that?
He didn't even put him down that hard Jesus.
The law is that you must obey a peace officers commands and bringing up British cops as examples of "proper take downs" is comparing apples to oranges.
Last I checked not everyone in Britian hates police and goes out of their way to give them a hard time when they are stopped.
I'm kinda tired of people who have no experience with law enforcement trying to tell police how they should do their job.

So what if they where British didn't think about it either...
Also see last post as I can't see them firing only treathing, if they did it had to be a reason for it right?
But its another case do you really think I would compare drugs vs a loud dude? thats why a tackle (best thing he had at the moment) and peacefully hold him on the ground that is way better then this guy on an old man... also a guy with drugs could easly hold an knife.
Posted 8/17/15 , edited 8/17/15
Well, i sure hope he's alright.

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I'll come back when this thread is 50 pages long and full of NWA lyrics.


lmao
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Freddy96NO wrote:


Irishsushi wrote: So if he tased him you'd be better with that?
He didn't even put him down that hard Jesus.
The law is that you must obey a peace officers commands and bringing up British cops as examples of "proper take downs" is comparing apples to oranges.
Last I checked not everyone in Britian hates police and goes out of their way to give them a hard time when they are stopped.
I'm kinda tired of people who have no experience with law enforcement trying to tell police how they should do their job.

So what if they where British didn't think about it either...
Also see last post as I can't see them firing only treathing, if they did it had to be a reason for it right?
But its another case do you really think I would compare drugs vs a loud dude? thats why a tackle (best thing he had at the moment) and peacefully hold him on the ground that is way better then this guy on an old man... also a guy with drugs could easly hold an knife.


Oh so if you threaten someone with a taser they automatically stop right? No the old man would have probably just kept leaving so the cop would have wither had to tase him or forcibly restrain him.
Also he was actually pretty soft with his take down so I think a tackle would have been more severe.
People in america are purposefully more resistant to law enforcement and therefore police have to use harsher methods. Its a give and take.
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Irishsushi wrote: Oh so if you threaten someone with a taser they automatically stop right?
Also he was actually pretty soft with his take down so I think a tackle would have been more severe.
arrghh didn't you read?
Its not about who does the best takedown is it?
Still it was not about using a tazer for this... like I said that vs this creats that vs this action. (like risk factor 0.2 vs 1-5 or something like that)
As I think they did a better job for a higher risk, while here they used like it was equal of risk? (oh no, they would maybe be more extreme if it was about drugs.. Guns Blazing...)
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"Making peace, I have found, is much harder than making war...
He was a frail older man...

Thanks be, he was not singing, I shot the Sheriff...
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Posted 8/17/15 , edited 8/17/15

Freddy96NO wrote:


Irishsushi wrote: Oh so if you threaten someone with a taser they automatically stop right?
Also he was actually pretty soft with his take down so I think a tackle would have been more severe.
arrghh didn't you read?
Its not about who does the best takedown is it?
Still it was not about using a tazer for this... like I said that vs this creats that vs this action. (like risk factor 0.2 vs 1-5 or something like that)
As I think they did a better job for a higher risk, while here they used like it was equal of risk? (oh no, they would maybe be more extreme if it was about drugs.. Guns Blazing...)


The old man was not complying to instructions and he was trespassing. Its a private business if they didn't want him there then that's their right. Why are you bringing up drugs? it has nothing to do with this video.
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Irishsushi wrote:The old man was not complying to instructions and he was trespassing. Its a private business if they didn't want him there then that's their right. Why are you bringing up drugs? it has nothing to do with this video.

Agian?
did you even see the whole YT video?
that was the other more risking thier lifes that you wanted to compare to this.
I didn't want to compare all of it, only they still where able to do it more gental (but there where more cops too though)
and about the drugs was only if this cop actually had to go towards someone that could have something dangerous because those guys need something to protect themselfs so they can mostly carry knife or gun.
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Posted 8/17/15

Irishsushi wrote:


Freddy96NO wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fSVejb1CYI
this is how we handle things insted of going full on.
unless running or fighting, so these guys need some training...
oh you can't afford it?
Try to think more about other humans too then that works...
Even these guys are better..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvvfc4QkS2E

and more cops act like hmff...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCNNiRfQiTg


Treathend by dog shot it
As simple as it gets

says like it was justifed


So if he tased him you'd be better with that?
He didn't even put him down that hard Jesus.
The law is that you must obey a peace officers commands and bringing up British cops as examples of "proper take downs" is comparing apples to oranges.
Last I checked not everyone in Britian hates police and goes out of their way to give them a hard time when they are stopped.
I'm kinda tired of people who have no experience with law enforcement trying to tell police how they should do their job.


Kinda tired of police breaking the laws they are supposed to uphold.
Posted 8/17/15
Seems like based on what was said that the guy was already there once before and was coming around again. I can only assume, based on what is available, he was kicked out and when he decided to return they decided the police should handle it since the police showed up pretty quick. He was asked to leave and he tried to fight them on it by walking away further into the business instead of back out to the street. The officer attempted to stop him by grabbing his arm which is when he began to fight physically. If they guy was going to be combative then I see no reason why he shouldn't have been brought down this way.
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I did watch the whole youtube video. The old man was resisting and so the cop went hands on (pretty softly I'd like to once again assert) The cop COULD have drawn his taser like the British police in your video, but there is no guarantee the old man would have complied just because the taser was drawn. If he didn't comply the officer would have either had to 1.tase him or 2. do exactly what he did in the video.
Tbh the cops in your video where pretty careless IMO I would never get that close to a suspect while he is in his car that's what leads me to believe Britain doesn't have this whole anti-cop mentality that america has.


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Kinda tired of police breaking the laws they are supposed to uphold.


I'm kinda tired of people not respecting a officers authority and then crying when someone has to be physically subdued per US law.
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Irishsushi wrote: I did watch the whole youtube video. The old man was resisting and so the cop went hands on (pretty softly I'd like to once again assert) The cop COULD have drawn his taser like the British police in your video, but there is no guarantee the old man would have complied just because the taser was drawn. If he didn't comply the officer would have either had to 1.tase him or 2. do exactly what he did in the video.
Tbh the cops in your video where pretty careless IMO I would never get that close to a suspect while he is in his car that's what leads me to believe Britain doesn't have this whole anti-cop mentality that america has.

I do think there is maybe less guns in england is one of the reasons, but he handled it very well though execpt the suspect could have gotten away if it was not for the kick.
Still I was not saying using/showing a tazer will fix the problems.
and no he did not need to take that old man down anyway, even if he has been there before (don't think he has as I believe that guy behind the desk have not seen him before?)
also the police could trick him as well maybe saying after what he had issues with then "could you please step over here?" or something else, if that didn't work out and if he continued doing something bad or what you warned him about.

and they are more calm like on 2:05 I think it was.

If a police officer tells you to leave an area you leave you don't argue. How do you know they already hadn't asked him to leave?

So much for freedom...
I don't know and have not seen/heard anything about that, so I would not know if they have asked or not, I only mean't if.
Also about the back, well he is an old guy that does take less and could be much weaker so that something could have happend as seen in other cases where well.... people are not immortal and could easly break by the smallest things -__-
that is something US Cops I bearly see that thinks about this or that something they do is wrong...
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Freddy96NO wrote:


Irishsushi wrote: I did watch the whole youtube video. The old man was resisting and so the cop went hands on (pretty softly I'd like to once again assert) The cop COULD have drawn his taser like the British police in your video, but there is no guarantee the old man would have complied just because the taser was drawn. If he didn't comply the officer would have either had to 1.tase him or 2. do exactly what he did in the video.
Tbh the cops in your video where pretty careless IMO I would never get that close to a suspect while he is in his car that's what leads me to believe Britain doesn't have this whole anti-cop mentality that america has.

I do think there is maybe less guns in england is one of the reasons, but he handled it very well though execpt the suspect could have gotten away if it was not for the kick.
Still I was not saying using/showing a tazer will fix the problems.
and no he did not need to take that old man down anyway, even if he has been there before (don't think he has as I believe that guy behind the desk have not seen him before?)
also the police could trick him as well maybe saying after what he had issues with then "could you please step over here?" or something else, if that didn't work out and if he continued doing something bad or what you warned him about.

and they are more calm like on 2:05 I think it was.


its not a police officers job to try a coerce your cooperation when you are being detained/arrested. If a police officer tells you to leave an area you leave you don't argue. How do you know they already hadn't asked him to leave? You act like he broke his back I don't even think the dude got hurt.
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First of all, that old guy was a pretty good singer! I would've been glad to have such nice entertainment while eating at that restaurant.

Second, it looks like half the people in this thread were watching a completely different video than the ones posted in the OP. The videos clearly show the officer instigating the situation by confronting an old man singing in public. Last time I checked, exercising your First Amendment rights isn't a crime. Maybe there was some other reason why the officer went up to him. Whatever it was, it couldn't have been justification to attack the old man. The officer told him to leave. The two of them argued for a bit. The old man finally backed off and started leaving, just as the officer told him. Then the officer suddenly snaps and grabs him. He slams the old man down to the ground and keeps him there, even when the old man is screaming out in pain. The officer was calm one second and then crazy the next. Attacking a harmless senior citizen minding his own business is obviously not proper conduct for someone who is suppose to enforce the laws and keep us safe. I wouldn't feel safe at all if a guy like this was a cop in my neighborhood.


Irishsushi wrote:

People in america are purposefully more resistant to law enforcement and therefore police have to use harsher methods. Its a give and take.


You have your cause and effect backwards there. People are more resistant these days because more cops are being caught abusing their power. If you're minding your own business and a corrupt police officer assaults you for no reason, would you comply? I sure wouldn't. It's human nature to try to defend yourself from the aggressor.

It's the police's job to protect and serve the people. Too many officers these days forget their job and think their badge gives them the right to take other people's rights away. People who comply to such unlawful actions are only encouraging the problem. Thanks to everyone having cameras these days, it's easier to catch the cops who abuse their authority. Maybe the public would be more willing to trust the police if they weren't hiring and defending so many corrupt officers.

I'm not saying that's true for every police officer in America. I'm sure there are lots of good officers who know how to do their jobs right. It's just that more and more bad ones are showing their true colors lately in an age where anything they do could be uploaded to YouTube within an hour. There's also the fact that police in the U.S. aren't properly trained. They're taught that a gun will solve almost all of their problems, even for nonviolent offenders. Being given the power to end someone's life in an instant and not get in trouble for it probably contributes to their superiority complex and their make-believe entitlement.
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Lust listen to the police please. IT ISNT HARD! If you listen none of this shit will ever bloody happen. Seriously, just do it. No excuses. If a cop tells you to leave, leave. If he tells you to get on the ground, just get on the F*cking ground (I have been there enough, even been restrained once during a fight, even then it wasn't bad). If he tells you to do the chicken dance... Well, it would be a story, why not?

A cop has the right to restrain you (which he did) if you do not listen. I swear this is what is wrong with the American culture. Cops = always bad and people refuse to listen to them. It isn't hard... so why? I just cant comprehend it.
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ChinaCat89 wrote:

On a separate note, what's the point of resisting arrest? I've never been arrested but I don't see how fighting your way out of it could ever end well for you.


Considering all the stuff the police have been doing to people these last few months, there is a reason to resist arrest.
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