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Posted 8/19/15
Should birth right citizenship be banned in america?

currently the way it is parents who are illegals to foreign tourist can have a baby in america and that child is a citizen. A lot of Americans are now upset about this because they see a lot of latinos, hispanics, and mexicans.

if a ban on birth right citizenship is eventually, seriously considered, who should this apply to?

should children born to people here on work visas not be citizens? What about refugees the US government brings over from eastern europe in the 1990s and from sudan and from iraq and syria and other places? What about legal immigrants? would the offspring of these people be denied citizenship?

or should the ban on birth right citizenship be just confined to illegals which are mostly from mexico and south america?

What do you think? Should the ban on birth right citizenship be confined only to illegals or for both illegal and legal immigrants and foreign tourist?

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No birth right for any non-citizenship parent.
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Posted 8/19/15 , edited 8/19/15
Outlaw it for kids whose parents are not already citizens. The system is being taken advantage of far to much.
Posted 8/19/15
Why is having it a bad thing.
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Who the fuck gives a shit. If they're legal, have citizenship and pay taxes. I'm all good with it. I'm okay with any legal residence.

No, absolutely not. Don't ban that shit. What the fuck.

I'm willing to change my mind if anyone provides a non-stupid argument about it.
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Posted 8/19/15

haikinka wrote:

Why is having it a bad thing.


Because illegal immigrants are just crossing the border and dropping babies and using that as an excuse to stay in the country.
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haikinka wrote:

Why is having it a bad thing.


Some people find it's a way for illegals to get into the country and become citizens without having to go through the full process that one normally has to do.

The problem isn't the immigrants it's America itself it's way too lax on immigration vs other countries.


PrinceJudar wrote:

Who the fuck gives a shit. If they're legal, have citizenship and pay taxes. I'm all good with it. I'm okay with any legal residence.

No, absolutely not. Don't ban that shit. What the fuck.

I'm willing to change my mind if anyone provides a non-stupid argument about it.


I agree but so many dont pay taxes or do anything they just live off of the government and take advantage of the system sadly.

Just like anything in life there are good people that dont try to abuse it and then there are bad people who do try to abuse it.
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Haruna-kai wrote:

Some people find it's a way for illegals to get into the country and become citizens without having to go through the full process that one normally has to do.

The problem isn't the immigrants it's America itself it's way too lax on immigration vs other countries.


Yeah we are. We should allow the parents to legally stay in the US and pay taxes easier. The problem isn't them it's legal process being difficult to do. Seriously, we're America. Come be American with us. That's basically the whole deal.

The problem isn't legal immigrants, it's the undocumented immigrants who aren't fucking documented. So let's just document them and make them pay and agree to responsibilities of living here like anyone else. Fuck. I don't get it.
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Posted 8/19/15

PrinceJudar wrote:


Haruna-kai wrote:

Some people find it's a way for illegals to get into the country and become citizens without having to go through the full process that one normally has to do.

The problem isn't the immigrants it's America itself it's way too lax on immigration vs other countries.


Yeah we are. We should allow the parents to legally stay in the US and pay taxes easier. The problem isn't them it's legal process being difficult to do. Seriously, we're America. Come be American with us. That's basically the whole deal.

The problem isn't legal immigrants, it's the undocumented immigrants who aren't fucking documented. So let's just document them and make them pay and agree to responsibilities of living here like anyone else. Fuck. I don't get it.


I think we should just ship em out. The US takes in enough legal immigrants as it is. We can't just take everyone the system would collapse. Its already strained in areas with lots of illegals.
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I have read somewhere that lot of Chinese couples go to the US to give birth so that their children can have US citizenship. There are even services for that, like hotels for them to stay.
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Posted 8/19/15 , edited 8/19/15
Back in the old days they had this thing...........oh what did they called it again oh yeah slavery. I think they still teach that in school these days. The birth right citizenship was set up to prevent that from happening again. Anyone born with in the boarders are US citizens like it or not that is the way it is
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You would have to read the original intent of the 14th amendment and see why it was passed.
http://www.14thamendment.us/birthright_citizenship/original_intent.html

Personal opinion close any loopholes in the amendment but make a provision taking into account Americans dating foreigners, legal aliens working with visa's and any other things I may have miss.
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PrinceJudar wrote:

Who the fuck gives a shit. If they're legal, have citizenship and pay taxes. I'm all good with it. I'm okay with any legal residence.

No, absolutely not. Don't ban that shit. What the fuck.

I'm willing to change my mind if anyone provides a non-stupid argument about it.


The problem is non-citizens coming to the U.S and having a child. Under current law that child Is a U.S. citizen and is afforded rights to public assistance, so theoretically the families could get assistance for their kid and not need to pay taxes on it. Basically we are having to support more and more people with a small pool of funds.
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Posted 8/19/15 , edited 8/19/15

biscuitnote wrote:

I think we should just ship em out. The US takes in enough legal immigrants as it is. We can't just take everyone the system would collapse. Its already strained in areas with lots of illegals.


I don't agree at all. America was founded on immigration. You want people that will do some shit job with shitty hours and dangerous conditions? Get an immigrant. They want to be here so fucking bad. They come here and they want to work. They typically work a lot harder than your natural born American citizens.

They come here, they pay taxes and they accept responsibility of residence? I don't give a shit.


Irishsushi wrote:
The problem is non-citizens coming to the U.S and having a child. Under current law that child Is a U.S. citizen and is afforded rights to public assistance, so theoretically the families could get assistance for their kid and not need to pay taxes on it. Basically we are having to support more and more people with a small pool of funds.


I'm saying make the parents legal citizens too so they have to pay taxes like everyone else.
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PrinceJudar wrote:

Yeah we are. We should allow the parents to legally stay in the US and pay taxes easier. The problem isn't them aside from the process being difficult to do. Seriously, we're America. Come be American with us. That's basically the whole deal.

The problem isn't legal immigrants, it's the undocumented immigrants who aren't fucking documented. So let's just document them and make them pay and agree to responsibilities of living here like anyone else. Fuck. I don't get it.


The problem with that is they dont speak english 9/10 times therefore companies have to pay or a person has to pay out of pocket to get trained to learn that language so they can fully understand whats going on in a work place.

We need to do what other countries do, from the little i've looked into Japan and Australia for becoming a citizen they seem to have the right idea about how you become a citizen vs our own country which is just meh sure come right in.
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