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Posted 8/22/15 , edited 8/23/15

pirththee wrote:

Just another psycho with a gun trying to use religion as justification for his brutality.

Basically.

Irishsushi wrote:
No Islam is pretty bad and by no means "chill". but then again every religion is shitty.

Edgy.
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Posted 8/22/15 , edited 8/23/15

anzn wrote:

If you actually read the Qu'ran (Not just a few verses either and in context) You'll know that their religion does not do that or whatever hate propaganda you hear from media about Islam.


you can come on up to metro Detroit around Dearborn which has the largest arab population in the United States and talk to my friends who have been threatened by their religious leaders and families based on what the qu'ran says because they don't want to be Muslim or beacuse they have friends that are not Muslim or because He was gay you come talk to some of the actual victims of that stuff then tell me that its Just "hate propaganda you hear from media about Islam" come talk to my friends hear their stories see their tears
Posted 8/22/15 , edited 8/23/15

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anzn wrote:

If you actually read the Qu'ran (Not just a few verses either and in context) You'll know that their religion does not do that or whatever hate propaganda you hear from media about Islam.


you can come on up to metro Detroit around Dearborn which has the largest arab population in the United States and talk to my friends who have been threatened by their religious leaders and families based on what the qu'ran says because they don't want to be Muslim or beacuse they have friends that are not Muslim or because He was gay you come talk to some of the actual victims of that stuff then tell me that its Just "hate propaganda you hear from media about Islam" come talk to my friends hear their stories see their tears

Or you can just simply look up the Qu'ran or just Google "Islamic Beliefs" and not make up some kinda story about "my friends encounter with the evil Arabs".
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Posted 8/22/15 , edited 8/23/15

anzn wrote:


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anzn wrote:

If you actually read the Qu'ran (Not just a few verses either and in context) You'll know that their religion does not do that or whatever hate propaganda you hear from media about Islam.


you can come on up to metro Detroit around Dearborn which has the largest arab population in the United States and talk to my friends who have been threatened by their religious leaders and families based on what the qu'ran says because they don't want to be Muslim or beacuse they have friends that are not Muslim or because He was gay you come talk to some of the actual victims of that stuff then tell me that its Just "hate propaganda you hear from media about Islam" come talk to my friends hear their stories see their tears

Or you can just simply look up the Qu'ran or just Google "Islamic Beliefs" and not make up some kinda story about "my friends encounter with the evil Arabs".


First off I didn't "make up some kinda story" and second of all Islam just like every other religion uses more then just there holy book for determining their dogma. much like how the catholic church says that homosexuality, abortion, and divorce are wrong based on the bible when the bible contradicts itself about these issues. Islam doesn't strictly follow the Qu'ran but they also follow other codes that have come into creation later.
Posted 8/22/15

anzn wrote:

Or you can just simply look up the Qu'ran or just Google "Islamic Beliefs" and not make up some kinda story about "my friends encounter with the evil Arabs".


I googled the qu'ran and all I got was how hateful it is towards unbelievers,.and other sources confirm that the qu'ran has more verses about violence than about peace ' some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.'

This seems exactly what these 'extremists' are doing. I'm not reading the whole qu'ran, ain't nobody got time for that! but it doesn't look that cool and chill to me from the few verses I read.

Also, the real problem is the people who mark them off as 'extremists' and 'they will die out soon'. Similar to the feminists always saying 'they're not real feminists' but none of them do anything to stop these extremists so they will not die out soon.

It takes one person to make a difference either for good or bad.
Posted 8/22/15 , edited 8/23/15

marinewrestler wrote:

First off I didn't "make up some kinda story" and second of all Islam just like every other religion uses more then just there holy book for determining their dogma. much like how the catholic church says that homosexuality, abortion, and divorce are wrong based on the bible when the bible contradicts itself about these issues. Islam doesn't strictly follow the Qu'ran but they also follow other codes that have come into creation later.

W/e.

Literally both the bible & qu'ran don't say anything of what you think it said but ok.


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I googled the qu'ran and all I got was how hateful it is towards unbelievers,.and other sources confirm that the qu'ran has more verses about violence than about peace ' some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.'

This seems exactly what these 'extremists' are doing. I'm not reading the whole qu'ran, ain't nobody got time for that! but it doesn't look that cool and chill to me from the few verses I read.

Also, the real problem is the people who mark them off as 'extremists' and 'they will die out soon'. Similar to the feminists always saying 'they're not real feminists' but none of them do anything to stop these extremists so they will not die out soon.

It takes one person to make a difference either for good or bad.

And you not reading the Qu'ran & going by a couple of versus & deciding immediately that Islam is a violent religion is what you did wrong.
Because the Qu'ran refers to both non-believers & believers of Islam.
This is what I mean how y'all eat up whatever shit you see & hate propaganda. You ignore or don't question context.

Non-believers are the ones that condone to violence, not the believers. So whatever verses Anti-muslims bring up is probably the ones you read, about the non-believers.
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Posted 8/22/15 , edited 8/23/15

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Oh come on, you can't hate dark elves.


Elves in general suck they are either hippies or stuck up pricks
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quaran the bible, all useless. "And if he doesn't believe, cut at the nape of their necks." What they actual do in saudi arabia, its called sharia law.
Posted 8/22/15 , edited 8/23/15

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quaran the bible, all useless. "And if he doesn't believe, cut at the nape of their necks." What they actual do in saudi arabia, its called sharia law.

Well Islam isn't a law and Saudi Arabia doesnt have laws created due to Islamic beliefs.
Islam is just the most popular religion there.
Kinda like how Christianity is the most popular religion in the US.

So what's ur point.
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Posted 8/22/15

anzn wrote:


spaceace925 wrote:

quaran the bible, all useless. "And if he doesn't believe, cut at the nape of their necks." What they actual do in saudi arabia, its called sharia law.

Well Islam isn't a law and Saudi Arabia doesnt have laws created due to Islamic beliefs.
Islam is just the most popular religion there.
Kinda like how Christianity is the most popular religion in the US.

So what's ur point.


You obviously don't know what sharia law is, do you? Go google it and learn something, besides that i had no point really.
Posted 8/23/15

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anzn wrote:


spaceace925 wrote:

quaran the bible, all useless. "And if he doesn't believe, cut at the nape of their necks." What they actual do in saudi arabia, its called sharia law.

Well Islam isn't a law and Saudi Arabia doesnt have laws created due to Islamic beliefs.
Islam is just the most popular religion there.
Kinda like how Christianity is the most popular religion in the US.

So what's ur point.


You obviously don't know what sharia law is, do you? Go google it and learn something, besides that i had no point really.

Ya. But they don't even do that shit :/
Like I said, Islam is the most popular religion. They don't kill others who aren't.
Just like the US.
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Posted 8/23/15

anzn wrote:


spaceace925 wrote:

quaran the bible, all useless. "And if he doesn't believe, cut at the nape of their necks." What they actual do in saudi arabia, its called sharia law.

Well Islam isn't a law and Saudi Arabia doesnt have laws created due to Islamic beliefs.
Islam is just the most popular religion there.
Kinda like how Christianity is the most popular religion in the US.

So what's ur point.

I'm not saying that I agree with the guy that all religions / religious texts are useless, but you're incorrect regarding Saudi Arabian Law.

I'm a little surprised you didn't already know about this.. If I recall correctly several years ago a gang rape victim in Saudi Arabia was sentenced to a few hundred lashings for adultery and there was a large international outcry... Ah, found it.
Posted 8/23/15 , edited 8/23/15

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anzn wrote:


spaceace925 wrote:

quaran the bible, all useless. "And if he doesn't believe, cut at the nape of their necks." What they actual do in saudi arabia, its called sharia law.

Well Islam isn't a law and Saudi Arabia doesnt have laws created due to Islamic beliefs.
Islam is just the most popular religion there.
Kinda like how Christianity is the most popular religion in the US.

So what's ur point.

I'm not saying that I agree with the guy that all religions / religious texts are useless, but you're incorrect regarding Saudi Arabian Law.

I'm a little surprised you didn't already know about this.. If I recall correctly several years ago a gang rape victim in Saudi Arabia was sentenced to a few hundred lashings for adultery and there was a large international outcry... Ah, found it.

And I'm saying just cuz their are laws saying it is doesn't mean its from the actual practices of Islam. They just claim it is.

Like, literally nowhere in the Bible said anything about homosexuality being a sin, or its a sin to marry one of the same sex. So it shouldn't be illegal for their to be gay marriage.

The US & their laws were built off of extremist beliefs in Christianity. Which involved lots of terrorism too.
There are people, in both countries, stay true & follow the practices.
However, people who control/built the country, do not.

So if you want me to be more specific, these laws are based on extremist beliefs of Islam, which is not the true Islamic beliefs.
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The world is a messed up place. As there's things that are absolutely beautiful....there's things that are equally horrible. It's pretty much a math equation. Both sides have to balance.
Me? I'm like adding 0 to both sides. I don't really make an impact, but I'm still a part of the solution.
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