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Do we actually die?
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We will never know because religion is fake and science just can't explain it.
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There is the theory that time is its own dimension. Unlike the accepted concept of time where it always flows in one direction, linearly, this theory is that time is merely just a smattering of one brief moment layered upon the next, and the next, etc. it therefore would follow that time is not linear, but a tangible dimension where going between two points in time would mean you making a right turn at Albuquerque, albeit in a smaller and not literal sense.

Too hard to comprehend - Watch "Interstellar". The part near the end where time is shown as merely just being different levels of moments all connected but on different levels is perhaps as accurate of a visual representation of this theory as you'll get.

If this theory is true, then, no one ever dies and no one is ever born. You exist in perhaps several hundred thousand frames of time and yet, in many billions more, you do not.

Good thread.


Yes the past and the present exist as one.
It's a strange concept to us since we live life in a seemingly linear fashion. But yes I believe this is true that time is coherent like this. It honestly makes sense.
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Thus far, out of all the possible versions of you in the multiverse, your conscious mind has travelled a mostly unbroken line. It is not as if you ever wake up in a mirror universe where American prime time television plays nothing but moe anime. So therefore there is no reason to assume your current Id/Ego would shift to another universe/timeline to prevent you from experiencing death. Just as if someone cloned you and you died. A version of you is still alive, but as far as you're concerned, you're dead.
It is, however, possible that the human soul is an entity which exists in more than four dimensions, so each of these infinite possibilities of self are, on a certain level, emanations from the same soul. Perhaps, upon death, your consciousness shifts to perceive reality through this higher version of self.
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Yes the past and the present exist as one.
It's a strange concept to us since we live life in a seemingly linear fashion. But yes I believe this is true that time is coherent like this. It honestly makes sense.


I also accept the concept of time not being linear. I base this on my own personal experiences, which may or may not be things that you have experienced.

I also do not see death as an end, but merely as a transition from one existence to another. I do not think that we retain all memories of previous lives, but I feel that we remember the important things that we learned. I also believe that those that we close to us in previous lifetimes, whether they played a protagonistic or antagonistic role, will meet with us in 'future' lives. I've had that feeling, several times during my own life, where I'll just meet someone and it'll feel as if I've known them for decades. It's as if a part of me says "Oh, there you are. Was wondering when you'd get here".

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Akage-chan wrote:

There is the theory that time is its own dimension. Unlike the accepted concept of time where it always flows in one direction, linearly, this theory is that time is merely just a smattering of one brief moment layered upon the next, and the next, etc. it therefore would follow that time is not linear, but a tangible dimension where going between two points in time would mean you making a right turn at Albuquerque, albeit in a smaller and not literal sense.

Too hard to comprehend - Watch "Interstellar". The part near the end where time is shown as merely just being different levels of moments all connected but on different levels is perhaps as accurate of a visual representation of this theory as you'll get.

If this theory is true, then, no one ever dies and no one is ever born. You exist in perhaps several hundred thousand frames of time and yet, in many billions more, you do not.

Good thread.


Yes the past and the present exist as one.
It's a strange concept to us since we live life in a seemingly linear fashion. But yes I believe this is true that time is coherent like this. It honestly makes sense.

I take so long formulating my thoughts, by the time I hit the post button, the thread got good and I'd missed it. I may have to watch that movie, as I definitely see things in a similar way. It's like, out of all the moments in time, past and future, which of those moments qualifies as "now" is purely subjective. It's just a matter of opinion. Time is just our consciousness moving through the fourth dimension, but so many people look at "events" and misconstrue this experience as if the universe itself is changing.
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No you just die there's nothing more, so there's nothing to fear.
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What is real? Is life just an illusion? Why do we have De Javu? Who am I? AAAAGHR!! Mind fuck!
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We become one with the force.
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cleruninja wrote:

I take so long formulating my thoughts, by the time I hit the post button, the thread got good and I'd missed it. I may have to watch that movie, as I definitely see things in a similar way. It's like, out of all the moments in time, past and future, which of those moments qualifies as "now" is purely subjective. It's just a matter of opinion. Time is just our consciousness moving through the fourth dimension, but so many people look at "events" and misconstrue this experience as if the universe itself is changing.


About "Interstellar" -the movie starts out very, very slow. The real meat of the movie isn't until the last 15 minutes or so, and then it's sorta just rapidly crammed down your throat to the point where you might have to watch the time part a couple of times before it sinks in.

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Only if you are part of the 98%

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furytime wrote:

So here we go again. If anyone remembers my thread about existence, I am here to make another odd thread about death. It's 4:47 and my brain is at it again.


Perhaps a thread about the best ways to get to sleep regularly would be more effective.
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So here we go again. If anyone remembers my thread about existence, I am here to make another odd thread about death. It's 4:47 and my brain is at it again.

You may or may not have heard of the ideas and theories behind Schrodinger's cat and or Quantum Suicide. So I thought about them and put my own weird little mind into work.

What if you actually cannot and do not die?

Lets say you try to kill yourself (theoretically speaking), do you actually die? Looking at most peoples concept of death, yes you would if you succeed, obviously right? In quantum mechanics, observers can effect objects, the way the universe works, and there is also the idea of Schrodinger's cat too which basically the same thing. To the point though.
You die but do you die?
If the quantum Suicide idea is true, you infinitely live and die but live. You are there but not there because that is how quantum mechanics works in some idea. Basically particles can do the impossible at really microscopic levels. Like be at two places at once.

You basically die in one universe but live in another. What if this was the case with everything? You are you. There will be a universe where I am dead right now, but there is also this universe where I live right now. If you believe in the idea of parallel universes this doesn't seem like it's all that strange right? Sure, so you don't actually die from the suicide, but what happens if you live to the age where you will die of old age.
You simply don't. You are the odd one that breaks out of this apparent infinite loop of death. You die but do not die because of what I explained. Your conscious is the highest level of what you actually are. The you who survives all situations that would have killed you. You are the best of all outcomes because you are the one who cannot and does not die.

Discuss. Your thoughts on the idea that you do not die and you could possible be something that can't be understood.

TL.DR: You do not actually die, the universe just splits when you were to die, causing an infinite loop of something that would have killed you but didn't kill you. You cannot die. Discuss any idea of this.
TL,DR 2 - I am god


First of all stop misusing Schrödinger's cat. Schrödinger was trying to illustrate the weaknesses with the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics, such as when exactly does this supposed quantum state stop happening and becomes one or the other, and if the cat can be considered to be its own observer. He also came up with numerous different scenarios that included the cat being dismembered. Schrödinger's cat is used as a test for theories in Quantum Mechanics, if you can solve the problems presented by the thought experiment you're in good shape.

Second, you did not remember that in order for Quantum Suicide to be plausible there has to be an afterlife and the experimenter actually has to remember the experience of "dying" to begin with. However, the problem here is that it treats dying as a binary event. It's not. Dying is a process that can be halted under specific circumstances (e.g. cancer survivors). If you could just up and not die you'd be functionally immortal but still suffer from the effects of aging and disease.

Third go to bed.
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the thing about theories like this is just that: theories. there are definitely an infinite number of things we as human beings do not know. sadly, there is one certain fact: we will have our answer when we die. that's really the only way to know.
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Only if you eat a box of chocolates


laced with ricin


and anthrax



and walter white's sweat
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