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Do we actually die?
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Posted 8/23/15 , edited 8/23/15
I love your threads. Keep posting!

Anyway, This one's a toughie. The theory that time is not linear, but a plane where past, present, and future are one in the same, has been pointed out. If that theory is correct, I suppose that we cannot die (in one sense, at least).
If time is linear, on the other hand, I think we die. I would not consider a 'me' from an alternate universe to be 'me'. I would consider him to be his own person.
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Same
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I do not sleep. I guess I need to read up more on the theories and more on quantum mechanics in general.
Posted 8/23/15
We as humans? Sure we die however it's quite relative.You could say we don't die only transition from one state to another in either a Buddhist or Hindu theory of reincarnation or you could take the strict scientific sense that when we die the material that comprises our body is just recycle eventually back into the earth to at some point be apart of life again. in both scenarios we don't die everything just goes through a cycle of some sort. Which brings up the question where do you end and where do you begin? A good question that I think doesn't have a logical answer cause we can trace life as far as we know back to the big bang. which brings up the question what was before that and that and that ad infinum? or how most religions/spiritual way of thought tends to say that in a way there was no beginning that some force or something was just in of it's self so and shit just happened or some force created shit.

So I think death is extremely relative in a since that it's like looking at things in a microscope if we were to look at the human body just with the naked eye we would see a person ,but if we look closer there's all these bacteria and cells creating, destroying, working in unison etc. On one level we could say everything all right, but on another it looks like a battlefield. There just different perspectives of the whole thing. Sometimes chaos creates order and maybe vice versa.
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severticas wrote:

I hate probability. I'm gonna go... watch some anime

This is the true Good Ending.
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Now that I think about it, I wonder if the problem is just semantics. What is death? From the viewpoint of an observer, yes, we certainly die, in the general sense of the word. But no one who is dead can tell us what it is actually like, or if our observations are correct.
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jvempire wrote:


severticas wrote:

I hate probability. I'm gonna go... watch some anime

This is the true Good Ending.


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What if we're already dead?



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As to what the OP said, the idea is kind of tough to wrap my mind around. If this idea is real, then does that mean that we live forever? You say that the universe splits every time someone "dies" (quotes because by this logic no one dies). This brings up more confusing questions rather than answering the original question. It is honestly really thought provoking and I'll have to think about it more later. I'm pretty sure that the universe isn't so considerate to make a universe for each individual thing that happens.
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We change for sure. Having offspring keeps portions of your DNA replicating. Teaching keeps portions of your ideas alive. Cells in your body routinely die and are replaced. Blood cells have a life span near 120 days max. Brain cells, well you only get one set, so take care of them. So what is more important to you, keeping your DNA going or what you know? As your information content changes you are not the same person so that old you does not exist anymore.
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Those alternate yous are you but at the same time not you. They share your identity but none of them have any firsthand experience of one anothers' thoughts. They are separate consciousnesses. Sort of like having identical clones. They are you but they are not you even though they may think and behave the same way. Even if there are a hundred clones and the one thinking about this problem dies, to that clone, it is you (clone referring to self) that died, not merely a you that died. The self is one of a kind even though there may be many yous.
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Archmechanite wrote:

We change for sure. Having offspring keeps portions of your DNA replicating. Teaching keeps portions of your ideas alive. Cells in your body routinely die and are replaced. Blood cells have a life span near 120 days max. Brain cells, well you only get one set, so take care of them. So what is more important to you, keeping your DNA going or what you know? As your information content changes you are not the same person so that old you does not exist anymore.


Keeping myself alive even if it's not the old me is more important imo cause even if it slowly changes it's still me in a sense :P

Screw DNA that would require having children and accepting death
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I lol'd hard
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Archmechanite wrote:

We change for sure. Having offspring keeps portions of your DNA replicating. Teaching keeps portions of your ideas alive. Cells in your body routinely die and are replaced. Blood cells have a life span near 120 days max. Brain cells, well you only get one set, so take care of them. So what is more important to you, keeping your DNA going or what you know? As your information content changes you are not the same person so that old you does not exist anymore.


Your cells are completely replaced by every 5 years right? That's what I read. You could say you aren't the same person you were 5 years ago, literally.
Posted 8/23/15
well I'm not sure if that's true but I am a believer of reincarnation .. once you die I believe your soul is reborn in a different body after 100 years or so my thoughts people don't havtta agree with me though ...
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