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Common Anime Reviewing Denigrations And What They Mean To You. (Generic, Pretentious, Etc)
Posted 8/24/15
What do they mean to you? Are they buzzwords you never use? Or do you use them often? Discuss.
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Posted 8/24/15
My favorite one is "edgy."

No one seems to know what "pretentious" means, so they mainly use it to describe whatever they can't understand.
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Posted 8/24/15

kdroberts wrote:
No one seems to know what "pretentious" means, so they mainly use it to describe whatever they can't understand.


Citation Needed(tm).

I can't say as I've seen "pretentious" commonly used in negative anime reviews. Generic, cliche, etc sure. But pretentious? Granted, I gave up reading CR reviews a long time ago thanks to people reviewing a series after one episode, etc. -.-

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Posted 8/24/15 , edited 8/24/15
I guess "plot holes" is something people use a lot whenever they want to sound smart about the anime they are bashing.

I don't know why, but people like being spoon-fed information instead of doing a little thinking on their own when it comes to anime. I don't know if this because people watch long running series (Naruto and One Piece) were villians spend 10 episodes to explain to the MC why there evil plans started, how they plan on accomplishing those plans, and the best course of action should someone want to stop said plans.



Posted 8/24/15
Generic doesn't necessarily mean bad, as much it means it doesn't stand out much.

Pretentious is something that overreaches its boundaries, in a negative sense. A high school anime can't tackle philosophical discussions without it seeming forced, which is even worse than trying and failing.

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I don't even look at anime reviews, I watch things because I want to. And if I can't get into them I don't continue. I think every anime has a target audience- someone they're trying to reach. I actually think it's rude to try to bash someone's work and persuade the general public to dislike it just because it wasn't that person's cup of tea. Then again, everyone needs to waste time somehow, right? I honestly think writing bad reviews is a waste of time- therefore none of the buzzwords matter to me.

The only time reviews are valid to me is when they stop doing an overall "oh my gosh, anime so suck," and actually go at it by the genre. If it's a romance anime- and you think it sucks because all the romance is actually one obsessive character and one scared character- that's a valid view. But for example here, I was told that Attack On Titan sucks and I should never watch it. I listened for a long time because those were my friends, finally I asked why. He told me "I don't think the world is going to end that way,"

Then I realized, my friend is an idiot and I'm going to watch the show. I liked it. No one's opinion should sway your own before you even allow yourself to form one. Just my thought. I apologize for the mini rant.
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Posted 8/24/15

kdroberts wrote:

My favorite one is "edgy."

No one seems to know what "pretentious" means, so they mainly use it to describe whatever they can't understand.


I don't even get this because "edgy" is not a negative term. In fashion it just means experimental, cutting edge or with a sort of "dangerous" flair. Some people like that aesthetic. What's wrong with that?
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Posted 8/24/15
If I give an anime a negative review I usually avoid buzzwords and try to explain why I would not personally recommend the series. For example, one show from a few seasons back started out giving the vibe of a supernatural mystery and laid down a fair amount of good foundation for one but utterly failed to deliver, instead going to a seeming out-of-left-field ending that did nothing to resolve the mystery the show had built up for more than half the season.
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Posted 8/24/15 , edited 8/24/15
I've noticed that, more often than not, people who use the word ''pretentious'' fit the actual definition of the word better than the work of fiction they're trying to insult.

''Style over substance'' follows the same principle: a way to dismiss a work that's symbolic or artistic while trying to convince others that you're cultured.

As for generic, I don't see it as inherently bad, but it's no compliment either. If I describe something as a ''Generic battle shonen'', people who like that kind of anime will likely check it out, whereas people who want something out of the ordinary will decide to look elsewhere.


saprobe wrote:


I don't even get this because "edgy" is not a negative term. In fashion it just means experimental, cutting edge or with a sort of "dangerous" flair. Some people like that aesthetic. What's wrong with that?


I think it's only meant to be insulting when discussing a series that tries WAY too hard to be edgy and, as a result, comes off as borderline childish.

Totally not thinking about a certain show that starts with A, and ends with kame ga kill
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Posted 8/24/15 , edited 8/24/15

runec wrote:

I can't say as I've seen "pretentious" commonly used in negative anime reviews.


"Pretentious" would be a word I use to describe reviews. don't write reviews, or if I do, they're pretty short. And I don't often read reviews. If one thing about reviews makes me stop reading them, it is when people do stuff like:

Story x/10
Art x/10
Sound x/10
Character x/10
Enjoyment x/10

I'm not attacking anyone, but I find such reviews pretentious. It's a work as a whole, and I personally don't find it possible to separate the individual elements. It would be like saying "Well, Mozart's Requiem in Dm would have been more enjoyable if it was in Am instead, and he should have incorporated more brass. His use of 4/4 was wearying and would be better off using a more progressive time signature".
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Le_Dom wrote:

I've noticed that, more often than not, people who use the word ''pretentious'' fit the actual definition of the word better than the work of fiction they're trying to insult.
Pretty much this.

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Posted 8/24/15 , edited 8/24/15
To me, it depends on the context of the comment. If someone makes a thread and says, "Is Death Note worth the watch"?

This would be a way that the use of buzz words would bug me: "It's so bad!! Light is a generic anti-hero with deus ex machina intellect. All the other characters were trope ridden and the plot was stereotypical and predictable. L was the only redeemable character. Lolz."

^ When people use the words in this type of a way, it drives me insane because all they're doing is slapping that word on their explanations without even giving proper criticisms. It's just buzz words and they probably don't even know what it means and are just trying to act smart, cool, or something ridiculous like that.

Now this would be a better way to use the buzz words: "I really did not enjoy Death Note. While the plot had a lot of twists and turns and it was exciting at times, it fell flat for me. There's quite a few inconsistencies/plot holes that really bugged like Near and Mello, Kira's portrayal in the public, and how the police force handled Kira, along some other things. In a way, it seemed pretty predictable because I could usually always tell how things were going to go and it took away the excitement for me, especially during the last cour. Light almost seemed like a clown because of how menacing he was, it could be hard to take him seriously. L was entertaining, but the rest of the characters didn't really have anything to them that I thought spoke to me on a personal level. They felt a bit generic in nature and it just didn't suit my tastes. Light's knowledge also seemed too good to be true and it was hard for me to believe he could be that smart in almost every way, it almost seemed like deus ex machina to me because he could always find a way out and there was nothing that could take him down for the longest time. "

I try to not use the buzz words too often, but there's times when people can use them well.

PS: I loved Death Note, I'm just playing devil's advocate.


CKD-Anime wrote:

I guess "plot holes" is something people use a lot whenever they want to sound smart about the anime they are bashing.

I don't know why, but people like being spoon-fed information instead of doing a little thinking on their own when it comes to anime. I don't know if this because people watch long running series (Naruto and One Piece) were villians spend 10 episodes to explain to the MC why there evil plans started, how they plan on accomplishing those plans, and the best course of action should someone want to stop said plans.





That one is a good one. I love it when someone says "there is so many plot holes", but then they don't give an example as to what "plot hole" they're referring to, Like most of the words, people say it to sound smart without really backing up their statements.

Also when people just disregard a show by saying, "There was so much fanservice and pandering, it was unbelievable! The show is shit", also makes me


yngvarr wrote:

I'm not attacking anyone, but I find such reviews pretentious. It's a work as a whole, and I personally don't find it possible to separate the individual elements. It would be like saying "Well, Mozart's Requiem in Dm would have been more enjoyable if it was in Am instead, and he should have incorporated more brass. His use of 4/4 was wearying and would be better off using a more progressive time signature".


Ha! This is actually an interesting way to put it. I don't necessarily agree, but I get what you're saying.
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Posted 8/24/15
My favorite is "Overproduced writing": Meaning it has been so heavily edited for demographic impact that there's nothing left.

Another good general dengration is "Has idols" which means it has Idols.
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Posted 8/24/15
Peripheral is back? I thought he was banned for a year.


runec wrote:
Citation Needed(tm).


*cue Dragon Quest menu music*

To get the ™, hold ALT, type 0153, release ALT. And there you go!

As for a denigration, let us not forget how the term moe is often (incorrectly) used.
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Posted 8/24/15

yngvarr wrote:


runec wrote:

I can't say as I've seen "pretentious" commonly used in negative anime reviews.


"Pretentious" would be a word I use to describe reviews. don't write reviews, or if I do, they're pretty short. And I don't often read reviews. If one thing about reviews makes me stop reading them, it is when people do stuff like:

Story x/10
Art x/10
Sound x/10
Character x/10
Enjoyment x/10

I'm not attacking anyone, but I find such reviews pretentious. It's a work as a whole, and I personally don't find it possible to separate the individual elements. It would be like saying "Well, Mozart's Requiem in Dm would have been more enjoyable if it was in Am instead, and he should have incorporated more brass. His use of 4/4 was wearying and would be better off using a more progressive time signature".


I don't see anything wrong with this to be honest. It's far from unusual to find certain aspects of an anime more or less appealing. Like how it can have fluid animation and a solid soundtrack but the story and characters just aren't doing it for you, and vice versa. As for giving a rating for enjoyment, it's probably there to hammer the point that a review is always subjective; recognizing that the show may have its flaws but was still a fun ride for the reviewer.
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