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I use math rarely, but then again I'm not a theoretical physicist either.


Maths are important in gaming if you want to win at DPR/DPS



My children and grandchildren game extensively ,I only rarely play Battlefield 1942.I work with people that can't add two numbers together and get the same answer 3 times in a row.
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My children and grandchildren game extensively ,I only rarely play Battlefield 1942.I work with people that can't add two numbers together and get the same answer 3 times in a row.


Not only do I run statistical analysis of my tabletop RPG characters, I talked my daughter into becoming an architect. Now I have someone else in my family I can talk math with. Bless my wife, but she's never been able to grasp even basic algebra.

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I think having at least a basic working knowledge of Geometry and Trigonometry can benefit you in many different areas.
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I'm ok at math, i feel as if the only highschool math class that is important is algebra 1. After that I dont see how that would affect my life. After passing geometry and algebra 2, i've completely forgotten everything I learn especially geometry. Its usually I learn whats needed to be learned I study it for a few days till a test and then I completely forget it. When I was in algebra 2 I literally bs my way through it without really 'learning' and I passed the class. I had no idea what I was learning in that class but I passed with a good grade suprisingly. I guess its useful in certain careers. But for me i'll never use any advance math, just the basics.
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Two words... Imaginary Numbers...
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Can math education be boring as heck and not directly useful in a given form? Definitely..


Math ITSELF, learning these equations and processes, are not useful.However, you're not learning Math to learn those processes. You're learning how to problem solve, which is one of the most important things to learn in any computer-related area of work (because things rarely go your way).

If you don't want to learn how to think and problem solve, take little math. Take more English if you want to learn how to analyze and understand. Take more art if you want to learn to be expressive. These courses aren't directly useful, but you're exercising a core piece of your brain.
Take whatever piece is most useful to you; the one you want to use the most.
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Dariamus wrote:


pirththee wrote:

My children and grandchildren game extensively ,I only rarely play Battlefield 1942.I work with people that can't add two numbers together and get the same answer 3 times in a row.


Not only do I run statistical analysis of my tabletop RPG characters, I talked my daughter into becoming an architect. Now I have someone else in my family I can talk math with. Bless my wife, but she's never been able to grasp even basic algebra.


That's cool,One of my daughters obtained a degree in chemistry and math and i've never had the urge to discuss either with her. I made it through math in college, with the help of a wife that was a math major.
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The uses of math might not seem immediately useful, but it's like having a tool chest.

And knowing underlying math helps you understand things, and make good decisions. Basic probability in particular is really useful, and can be used for something as simple as estimating the amount of time you need to spend to get some number of drops in a video game. It can also be used to gamble, or to tell if people are cheating while gambling. Or even to predict your test scores before getting them back.

Pure mathematics can be used in cryptography to make sure stuff you send in emails isn't read by anybody who wants to read it.
Matrices can be used to model the spread of disease, among other things, like making sure you don't need to wait for long in a supermarket queue, or displaying objects to your computer screen.
Writing semi-facetious papers dealing with a zombie apocalypse
Math is used to predict the weather.
Used in finance all over the place, a simple example being compound interest.
Figuring out what med students go where.
Physics is well known for using things like group theory.
I think economics uses math like finance does, with stuff like utility functions, and CAPM, which involves linear algebra.
I think there are uses in biology of things called schemes, and knot theory can be used for dealing with DNA or RNA. I think there are also gene folding simulations that get used for something.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_and_theoretical_biology

I think it's used in chemistry for reactions or something.
It's used in computer science for creating programming languages. Stuff like context-free grammar and lexical analysis.
It's used extensively in game theory, although that goes back to things like economics and linear algebra.
Supply chains use it to figure out when to order a shipment, and how much to order.
Insurance uses math extensively, from figuring out how much to charge, and how much they need to have on hand so they can stay afloat. They do things like modelling their losses and figuring out the probability of catastrophic events occurring.

You use it to figure out how much you need to pay people for stuff, estimating how long it takes to get places, how much food you need to get through the week, and heck, you count when you exercise. How fast are you going? 30mph. How far are you going? 5 miles. It'll take 10 min.

It's not that math isn't useful, it's that math isn't always taught with a specific application in mind.
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Nope, unless you go in a math-relevant field, you're right. Music, not so much.
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It's used in computer science for creating programming languages. Stuff like context-free grammar and lexical analysis.


Math is also used in computer science to create algorithms solving all the other problems on your list.

Math is also used in computer science to generate formal proofs for those algorithms. Not only do you have to prove your algorithm works, you have to prove the algorithms cost. .

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Nothing you take is guarenteed to be directly useful. Think of it instead as weight training for the brain. don't skip leg day.
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You do need to know basic math, and accounting & finances to make it in the future, but why are some people required to know the most insane things; as they'll never imply it into their lives afterward?


I think for several reasons.

1. Tradition. Maths is as ancient as civilization itself. So it's like tradition being passed to the next. And well, you can't have a subject if it's only add, plus or minus something. You need an extension of that, which comes the irrelevant stuffs.

2. A way of measuring one's cognitive abilities. Mathematics is a subject that can tell a lot about someone's cognitive intelligence.

3. It's not costly to have mathematic programs. It's just textbooks, papers and pens. You can have as many maths classes as you want. Whereas a music program for example, most high school can't even afford a piano for their students, it's much more costly...
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Two words... Imaginary Numbers...


are extremely useful in Electrical Engineering. Electrical engineers deal with impedance (Z) all the time.
concepts in electrical engineering is used to make electronics, etc.
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All kinds of men deal with impotence! Oh, wait, thats not what you meant...
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I am a Math major, and as far as most applications of math go... a lot of people could probably find a decent paying career and not have to worry about math having to do with geometry or trigonometry.

Basically any of the maths that revolve around the measurements of physical areas. The most abundant types of maths out there are probably arithmetic, algebra and calculus. (basic addition/subtraction, working with unknown numbers, working with constantly changing numbers.) Those are the ones usually used in finance and simple logistics which is where most people use math.

Computer Science probably makes the most use of Discrete Mathematics which is actually closer to language than it is math. It's pretty much finding a completely unambiguous way to say something. Creating a statement (that can then be transferred to numbers) that can not be misinterpreted. Such a statement gets really complicated really fast, and in the end you either completely won't understand it, or you will understand it in one way. (Usually the former)
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