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It seems to me that there is a key difference between most western (NA and Europe) anime fans, and most eastern anime fans (Japan, China, Korea). First of all I don't mean this in a critical way I think we're all heavily influenced by our cultures, so I wouldn't start blaming any fan groups. Secondly obviously there are lots of exceptions, I mean almost everyone here would technically count as western but I'm sure a lot of you will not really conform with that generalization. Thirdly, I haven't watched anime actively for a while, and some of the shows I will talk about I haven't watched for years so I might not get all the details right.

So here we go, these shows, at least how it seems to me, are what most western people like:
Dragon Ball Z
One Piece
Full Metal Alchemist
Cowboy Bebop
Death Note
Hellsing

eastern audiences:
Clannad After Story
Evangelion
Suzumiya Haruhi series
Fate series
Toradora
Bakemonogatari
Ghost in the Shell

Now obviously there will be some overlap, all of them would be considered decent everywhere, but I'm just suggesting where they get more love from. For example everybody knows Ghost in the Shell is a great series, but if you ask, what's the best anime series, western anime fans I think, are less likely to name that and more likely to say something like Dragonball or FMA.

What I'm trying to get here is, western people like bros, yes, they like bros to be protagonists in their anime (actually everywhere else, movies, games, shows), and they like their women to be secondary characters. Where as eastern audiences don't seem to care or even lean towards the female side. And I don't really mean this in a sexist way, because I think it is true that a lot of eastern audiences want to see female leads just because of beewbs, and of course there are animes that star female leads because beewbs.
All I'm trying to do here, is present this observation, and see what you guys think about it.

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I don't think it's that surprising if westerners find some parallels between what they see in North American culture and associate them with anime like those above. I believe that people compare and contrast anime with their own form of interpretation and not all people fall into this category.
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When trying to recommend series to people, I often think about their Japanese Level. This is essentially a measure of the amount of stuff in it that would feel foreign to someone no familiar with Japanese culture. Generally, the shows that get popular in the West have a fairly low Japanese Level, with lore, mythology, or stylings influenced by Western culture and a general lack of those strange Japanese obscurities that we all come to know and love. Its not a perfect system, but I think to get the Western audience at large, you have to capture people who aren't into anime or who are new to anime, so having something that is less intimidating often helps.

Japanese Level:
Baccano - Low
Nichijou - Average
The Big O - Very Low
Monogatari - Above Average
Oreimo - High
Eccentric Family - Average
Stein's;gate - Above Average
K-On - Low
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Pretty sure that Evangelion and and ghost in the shell were big in the west?
But yeah i know that some anime that did particulary well in places like America didn't do so well in Japan.
I think cowboy bebop was one of those?
I think some anime is aimed at a western audience. And i guess some anime taht is big in Japan is only popular amoungst "hard core" western anime fans, as oppsed to the casual anime fan?
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I have no idea, because I didn't grow up in the East.
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I rather disagree with the notion that the difference in taste between western and eastern audiences has much of anything to do with the role that women play in the show. I believe both audiences are primarily male and would generally like to imprint themselves onto a male protagonist. Perhaps the western audience is less interested in romance as a theme, and that could explain the leaning towards shows that could potentially be described as a sausage fest.

More interesting to me, it seems that without even realizing it you listed mostly shows with male leads in high school on the eastern list and very few shows with males leads in high school on the western list. Even from my own observations, the high school setting doesn't seem to resonate with western audiences as much. It could just be that Japan's primary audience is high school age boys, but I have noticed that a large part of the audience even here on Crunchyroll seems to be high school age boys so it makes me wonder. I once read that the Japanese are so badly overworked by their society that they like to be reminded of high school because it was the high point in their lives. Maybe it's not as popular in the west because the American school system is such a mess.

I don't actually know how true any of this information is, but it would provide and alternate explanation for Japan's seemingly insatiable desire to set almost all of their shows in high schools, as well as my personal desire for them to branch out a little more.
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1096bimu wrote:


What I'm trying to get here is, western people like bros, yes, they like bros to be protagonists in their anime (actually everywhere else, movies, games, shows), and they like their women to be secondary characters. Where as eastern audiences don't seem to care or even lean towards the female side. And I don't really mean this in a sexist way, because I think it is true that a lot of eastern audiences want to see female leads just because of beewbs, and of course there are animes that star female leads because beewbs.
All I'm trying to do here, is present this observation, and see what you guys think about it.

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I'm pretty certain most people would go after the content rather than gender leads.
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Posted 8/27/15 , edited 8/27/15
I'm not an expert but it might be wrong to tie the perceived popularity of a particular anime to whether it chimes with a certain culture or not. Entertainment (anime or anything else) becomes popular because of a huge variety of reasons. Marketing, word of mouth, fan groups, availability, cost, licencing, random chance and so on.
Posted 8/27/15 , edited 8/27/15
Death Note is not sexist lmao I feel like I'm reading tumblr where everyone finds everything sexist.....if Death Note is sexist then why EVA is not sexist for you? the lead male character is weak while most of the female ones are strong.

I don't know about you but I don't care if the lead is male or female, all I care is for a good story and good characters.

I stay away from anime with high school settings because they're so full of stereotypes, fluff or fanservice or ecchi or all of them.

My favorite ones are Berserk, Monster and Legend of Basara. Berserk and Monster have male lead characters but also have strong female characters and Legend of Basara has what I regard to as the best female character in anime. As long as the story is good and the characters are not annoying, who cares about the gender.

Having said that, I do prefer the anime list from the west (according to you). I didn't like Clannad, I hated the Haruhi series because the characters were too annoying, Toradora and Bakemonogatari are the types I stay away from. The only ones I liked are EVA, and Ghost in the Shell. I have never seen the Fate series.
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I agree with what you said about what the western audience would most likely say their favourite anime is; that they would usually say DBZ or FMA. However, what I would say though is that, that would be mostly true for male western anime fans.
For most of the female anime fans that I see, I'd say their favourites usually (and by no means always) include female-led or "feminine" animes such as Sailor Moon, most Studio Ghibli films, Ouran High School Host Club, Tokyo Mew Mew etc etc which are equally, as well as DBZ or Death Note, wildly popular in the west.

I also think its unfair to say that Eastern audiences lean towards female-lead animes because of sex appeal - if that were true, then what you said about western audiences wanting a secondary female lead would be untrue because then they would like the same animes as the Eastern audiences. Or vice versa.

I think that what is popular in the west vs east goes deeper than just sex appeal or cultural differences. For example, most western-anime fans' introduction into anime is most likely from watching DBZ, Pokemon or Yu-Gi-Oh on TV as a kid (as these animes are widely accessible on TV in the west - I think this has to do with licensing agreements anyway). For both male and female audiences, it may be true they will then choose to watch similar animes to those they watched as a kid - so stuff like Death Note, FMA, Cowboy Bebop etc.

I don't live in the East so I'm not sure what the influences would be there, but I'm going to guess and say that one of them is that the anime industry is Eastern and that those that live in Japan, South Korea etc would be exposed to different and newer kinds of anime. Thats a very general and weak point but again, I wouldn't know because I don't live in the east.
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Death Note is not sexist lmao I feel like I'm reading tumblr where everyone finds everything sexist.....if Death Note is sexist then why EVA is not sexist for you? the lead male character is weak while most of the female ones are strong.

I don't know about you but I don't care if the lead is male or female, all I care is for a good story and good characters.

I stay away from anime with high school settings because they're so full of stereotypes, fluff or fanservice or ecchi or all of them.

My favorite ones are Berserk, Monster and Legend of Basara. Berserk and Monster have male lead characters but also have strong female characters and Legend of Basara has what I regard to as the best female character in anime. As long as the story is good and the characters are not annoying, who cares about the gender.

Having said that, I do prefer the anime list from the west (according to you). I didn't like Clannad, I hated the Haruhi series because the characters were too annoying, Toradora and Bakemonogatari are the types I stay away from. The only ones I liked are EVA, and Ghost in the Shell. I have never seen the Fate series.


Legend of Basara the female I tell people same thing she maybe the most powerful in Anime but just happen to have nice rack. That series was tough for me early going with certain characters leaving or choosing different views but had good pay off maybe
Posted 8/27/15 , edited 8/27/15

Ssomething wrote:

Death Note is not sexist lmao I feel like I'm reading tumblr where everyone finds everything sexist.....if Death Note is sexist then why EVA is not sexist for you? the lead male character is weak while most of the female ones are strong.

Huh????
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Posted 8/27/15 , edited 8/27/15

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Legend of Basara the female I tell people same thing she maybe the most powerful in Anime but just happen to have nice rack. That series was tough for me early going with certain characters leaving or choosing different views but had good pay off maybe


Yeah, it would have been my favorite anime of all time if the anime was completed like the manga. The story and characters are too good to just leave it hanging in the middle of nowhere.




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Ssomething wrote:

Death Note is not sexist lmao I feel like I'm reading tumblr where everyone finds everything sexist.....if Death Note is sexist then why EVA is not sexist for you? the lead male character is weak while most of the female ones are strong.

Huh????
????


It was a rhetorical question. I'm not saying it is sexist, the OP says that DN is sexist just because the females are not as smart as the guys.

None of them are sexist for me.
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I have to agree with the Eastern choices, considering all the Western choices suck. Or I'm just an anime hipster.
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