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Post Reply Why do so many people hate the police?
Posted 8/28/15 , edited 8/28/15

LittleSquishOne wrote:


anzn wrote:

Cop kills around 1000(reported) civilians in 2014 alone.
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I thought they're here to serve & protect not search & destroy.


To be fair though, at least statisically speaking, if that is the number of civilians killed, it isn't a significant enough number if incidents to draw conclusions about the country's police force as a whole. The amount of sworn in officers numbers around an estimated 900,000. Even assuming, let's say, around 5 officers were involved in each incident, that would mean ~0.006% of the police force were directly involved. Like I said, not nearly enough for a mathematically validated conclusion. Now, I'm not condoning the killings in any way. Sure, most of the cases probably could have been settled in other ways and the officers involved should have received greater punishment. But, the numbers shouldn't be enough to classify the police force as some sort of murderous horde.

Again, reported.
Which implies that there may have been more.

Its still a huge problem if they're killing them in the first place & getting away with it???
And they seem to rise every year too. So you think the smartest way to go about it is you know, do something/speak up about it to prevent more unjustified killings due to law enforcement.

Nobody is saying they are or thinks they are some murderous horde.

Other countries has soooo much more lower numbers from literally 300-0 too in just half a decade sometimes too.

Yet we're here, having around or over 1000 kills in just a year.
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Posted 8/28/15

anzn wrote:


LittleSquishOne wrote:


anzn wrote:

Cop kills around 1000(reported) civilians in 2014 alone.
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I thought they're here to serve & protect not search & destroy.


To be fair though, at least statisically speaking, if that is the number of civilians killed, it isn't a significant enough number if incidents to draw conclusions about the country's police force as a whole. The amount of sworn in officers numbers around an estimated 900,000. Even assuming, let's say, around 5 officers were involved in each incident, that would mean ~0.006% of the police force were directly involved. Like I said, not nearly enough for a mathematically validated conclusion. Now, I'm not condoning the killings in any way. Sure, most of the cases probably could have been settled in other ways and the officers involved should have received greater punishment. But, the numbers shouldn't be enough to classify the police force as some sort of murderous horde.

Again, reported.
Which implies that there may have been more.

Its still a huge problem if they're killing them in the first place & getting away with it???
And they seem to rise every year too. So you think the smartest way to go about it is you know, do something/speak up about it to prevent more unjustified killings due to law enforcement.

Other countries has soooo much more lower numbers from literally 300-0 too in just half a decade sometimes too.

Yet we're here, having around or over 1000 kills in just a year.


Just out of curiosity, is that number just unarmed civilians? Because if it is a number if both armed and unarmed civilians, there isn't much of a point in comparing it to other countries. Mainly, just for the number of cases of gun-related violence in the US because, you know, everyone and their mom is armed to the teeth here. But, either way I do agree that there should be improved training and policies to make sure that officers are mentally stable enough for the work. Unfortunately, that means a greater increase in budget which means any sort of improvements are highly unlikely to occur.
Posted 8/28/15

LittleSquishOne wrote:


anzn wrote:


LittleSquishOne wrote:


anzn wrote:

Cop kills around 1000(reported) civilians in 2014 alone.
...
I thought they're here to serve & protect not search & destroy.


To be fair though, at least statisically speaking, if that is the number of civilians killed, it isn't a significant enough number if incidents to draw conclusions about the country's police force as a whole. The amount of sworn in officers numbers around an estimated 900,000. Even assuming, let's say, around 5 officers were involved in each incident, that would mean ~0.006% of the police force were directly involved. Like I said, not nearly enough for a mathematically validated conclusion. Now, I'm not condoning the killings in any way. Sure, most of the cases probably could have been settled in other ways and the officers involved should have received greater punishment. But, the numbers shouldn't be enough to classify the police force as some sort of murderous horde.

Again, reported.
Which implies that there may have been more.

Its still a huge problem if they're killing them in the first place & getting away with it???
And they seem to rise every year too. So you think the smartest way to go about it is you know, do something/speak up about it to prevent more unjustified killings due to law enforcement.

Other countries has soooo much more lower numbers from literally 300-0 too in just half a decade sometimes too.

Yet we're here, having around or over 1000 kills in just a year.


Just out of curiosity, is that number just unarmed civilians? Because if it is a number if both armed and unarmed civilians, there isn't much of a point in comparing it to other countries. Mainly, just for the number of cases of gun-related violence in the US because, you know, everyone and their mom is armed to the teeth here. But, either way I do agree that there should be improved training and policies to make sure that officers are mentally stable enough for the work. Unfortunately, that means a greater increase in budget which means any sort of improvements are highly unlikely to occur.

Unarmed or not, police still can't shoot and/or kill until the suspect does.

If you just shoot for "fear of my life", then you shouldn't have a gun or be in law enforcement tbh :/

Also special cases like a known criminal who most likely is armed & where it might be impossible to bring back alive.

And yeah, that's the problem. Money. u_u

At LEAST teach police officers the laws/rights civilians have over them because a lot seem to not know about them.
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Posted 8/28/15


While improved training may result in less incident on rather routine cases, the problem is there isn't really a way to improve any officer holding back against anyone they suspect has a weapon. Really the only way to ensure they don't attack someone unarmed is to wait to be shot at. Of course, there isn't really many people willing to wait to be shot at if they can shoot first. Basically it comes down to the whole "Shoot or be shot" kind of mentality. Really the only way to reduce those kind of shootings, would be to reduce the number of weapons on the street. If only for a lesser amount of paranoia. But, gun control is a whole different topic entirely.
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Posted 8/28/15 , edited 8/29/15
My father was a cop so I grew up around them because lots of his friends were. But I've never had an interaction with a cop beyond asking for directions. In my experience if I keep myself out of trouble and away from certain people, I don't have to deal with police at all.
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I love talking to the cops, they also make me feel safe.
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Ok so i grew up listening to rap and i have given the police reasons to harass me i guess so i was influenced by that in and the sort of crowd that puts you in situations were ploice are involved i guess.
So, of course the police have to do their job and if you commit a crime then of course the cops will seem bad to you.

To clear that up, i was never a "criminal" but as a kid/teen i was very often harassed by police. Thinking back now i can see that walking the streets at night and/or in large groups could be seen as suspicious but at the time it just felt like we were doing nothing wrong and being harassed.
And trust me some police are real arseholes. Fair enough if you are disrespectful and give them lip, but some are really over taken by power and are just plain and simple arseholes.
You can tell that some of them love being a bastard, the way some of them talk to you or being rough.
I've met good and bad cops. I dont hate all cops but i've had bad experiences with them.
Again i admit, i was at parties or out on the streets or around criminals or a drunk idiot so i have given them reasons but i have also been harassed for no reason at all. I have been spoken to like iam a peice of crap, i have been unfairly man handled roughly.

So unfortunately having a few bad experiences makes you weary of them all and somwehat judge tham all.

Probably the biggest thing that makes me dislike them is the fact that they appear to have a quota. I mean there is alot of revenue raising and it seems that they have to arrest and fine a certain amount of people per month or per night or something.

I was arrested once and it was bullshit and i was treated very roughly and in the court the police LIED like you would not believe. They claimed that they gave me three warning and infact i did not recieve even one.

I was at the football with my sister once and i admit i was being a lound and swearing a bit (as you do) someone complained and when the police came i completely compiled, i cooperated , left my seat and walked over to them accepting i would be kicked out and dude almost broke my f**king arm.
I told him it hurt and he did it harder and one of the female police knocked my sisters drink out of her hand.

One of my brothers was reversing out of his driveway and his head lights were not on, he realised and quickly turned them on and it just so happened that there was a cop on the street and he gave my brother a fine for not having his head lights on even though he put them on as soon as he left his driveway. pretty harsh.

But yeah again i admit i have been caught smoking weed at school, doing graffiti, ordering illigal hentai (LMAO) and hung around the wrong sort of people.
But theres no doubt that cops harass innocent people and the real criminals get away with everything and good people get hit with harsher treatment and penalties.

And you guys would not believe how expensive the fines are here for everything like say speeding for example. Which is more to do with our government than our police, i know.
I dont speed btw.

I did call the cops for help once though ^^;


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Posted 8/28/15
Less hate and more mistrust especially with the police more militarized than ever before.
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I once had a dream about cops.



Female Cop: You're under arrest for being too sexy. I'm taking you to jail so I can rape you.

Me: Okay.
Posted 8/28/15

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ignitingmemories wrote:

hmmm lets see

cops shoots black guy in the back for running when you aren't suppose to shot someone in the back
cops slams teenage girl down
cop kills eric garner
cop kills treyvon
cop kills boston teen

Cop kills around 1000(reported) civilians in 2014 alone.

Hmmmm


truuue but those were mostly known and brought to the public
so either way it doesn't matter cause we all know what most police officers do
know that its been brought to the light

some cops are racist & search and destroy instead of doing a job right
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PapaGregory wrote:

Less hate and more mistrust especially with the police more militarized than ever before.


Yep. Its not that bad in Australia as i imagine it would be in America but pretty much this. I feel nervous when i see the police instead of protected(not in all cases but often). And iam not even doing anything wrong or carrying anything illegal.

PeripheralVisionary wrote:

I once had a dream about cops.



Female Cop: You're under arrest for being too sexy. I'm taking you to jail so I can rape you.

Me: Okay.

Ha ha yeah i've been pulled over or questioned by a couple of female police officers before(more than once) and you cant help but think thoughts like that
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I don't hate them, but I talked with my dad about it once, and he made a good point that they've done a lot more to militarize cops in the last 10-20something years. The problem is, the police aren't the military, we aren't in a war situation, there's no point in making them resort to shooting as a first option unless their life is in imminent danger. There are good cops out there but a lot of them end up being more power hungry as time goes on.
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Cause some idiot gave Barney an armored Humvee with a gun port on top.
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Posted 8/28/15
Hmm I was about to throw in a racist joke but nvm.
How weird most people hate the police, if you don't do anything to them, they won't bother you.
They are good people, even though they may not seem like it, they are doing the jobs no one else would bother to do.
Posted 8/28/15 , edited 8/28/15

dotsforlife wrote:

Look at it this way:

If you look at a cop and immediately have negative thoughts about the guy then you probably have the same attitude towards races/sexuality/religions and other things in general.

If you pick and choose I'd say that's just as bad, if not worse.


That their problem. That their fault for being trigger happy and abusing their power.

You don't want me to look a you like the devil. How about you stop abusing power and stop being trigger happy.

And you know full well this is bullshit. Probably no. Most people look cops like this, because they keep giving them reasons. My attitude is dictated by your actions. You have gun and you keep killing people off. For reasons that are ridicules. You keep letting bad cops stay in. You fail to punish bad cops when there absolute evidence that they are bad. You only got yourself to blame for people treating you like a plague.

If you look at a cop and immediately have negative thoughts about the guy then you probably have the same attitude towards races/sexuality/religions and other things in general.


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