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Well I guess the generally accepted idea is that it's a cartoon animated in Japan, though personally I feel like it's an arbitrary distinction, do they call cartoons something else in other countries?
yeah in japan they call cartoons anime lol, it doesn't matter if it is made in japan or not unlike the English word anime which means Japanese cartoon. So yeah it is a bit silly, just call em japanese cartoons if you want to, but people will get randomly offended.



I suppose it's easier to say "anime" than it is "Japanese cartoon," but typically I use it in reference to the art style.


I usually just use the words anime fanart, manga art, vn art, whatever it is. It is a bit silly calling still art animation isn't it? I think it is defined that way to respect the Japanese word a bit. I think people try to make the word mean cartoon; but it really means animated cartoon. Those art style aren't exactly the same either. If you had such a broad meaning like that, there would be no end to determine if a or b is anime or not. Well when you google anime hardly any actual anime comes up.... mostly fan art game art manga art, it all comes up, a lot of it probably wasn't even drawn by people who had much clue what anime is.... so what do I type in to see actually Japanese animation lol? I find it to be a problem. I think the word is just way to loose how people are defining it. When I type anime in japanese it gives me what I am looking for, even though it has a broader definition, there isn't much non Japanese cartoon hits. I think the English version of the word should be similar. If everyone knew it was defined this way (Japanese animated cartoons) in English, the google searches would be about the same, it causing a disconnect to what actual anime is.

Hopefully you got something out of this. I don't wanna sound like I am arguing with you so this will be my last post, I hope the clears things up a bit. I am totally going to copy this for whenever the next of these threads comes up lol.
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It just needs to be a cartoon animated in japan. There are art styles that look very "american" (panty and stocking) so there isn't a set "style" companies have to follow


There is a limit to how far you can take the "But I want it to be!" abstract definitions of a term for something that you like:
I remember back on the Usenet days, we were driven up the wall by one poster who kept trying to start discussions that The Matrix--the live-action Matrix, not the Ani--was the "perfect definition" of anime.
It did no good to tell him that it was live-action, did not come from Japan, and was made by barbarian Hollywood white-devils, it just FELT like anime to him!--Because it was all trippy and had action, 'n stuff, and it was the all-purpose adjective to describe something culty and fringey that he liked!

At that point, we're pretty much into Lewis Carroll's Humpty Dumpty--"When I use a word, it means exactly what I want it to mean!" Which means, after a while, it doesn't mean anything.
Anime is made in Japan, by Japan, for Japan, although we watch it too. If a French winery decided to make wine "just for Americans", or US wineries would try to make "imitation French wine", wine experts would throw it down the toilet.
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mow123 wrote:


SirWilburn wrote:


mow123 wrote:


SirWilburn wrote:

Well I guess the generally accepted idea is that it's a cartoon animated in Japan, though personally I feel like it's an arbitrary distinction, do they call cartoons something else in other countries?
yeah in japan they call cartoons anime lol, it doesn't matter if it is made in japan or not unlike the English word anime which means Japanese cartoon. So yeah it is a bit silly, just call em japanese cartoons if you want to, but people will get randomly offended.



I suppose it's easier to say "anime" than it is "Japanese cartoon," but typically I use it in reference to the art style.


I usually just use the words anime fanart, manga art, vn art, whatever it is. It is a bit silly calling still art animation isn't it? I think it is defined that way to respect the Japanese word a bit. I think people try to make the word mean cartoon; but it really means animated cartoon. Those art style aren't exactly the same either. If you had such a broad meaning like that, there would be no end to determine if a or b is anime or not. Well when you google anime hardly any actual anime comes up.... mostly fan art game art manga art, it all comes up, a lot of it probably wasn't even drawn by people who had much clue what anime is.... so what do I type in to see actually Japanese animation lol? I find it to be a problem. I think the word is just way to loose how people are defining it. When I type anime in japanese it gives me what I am looking for, even though it has a broader definition, there isn't much non Japanese cartoon hits. I think the English version of the word should be similar. If everyone knew it was defined this way (Japanese animated cartoons) in English, the google searches would be about the same, it causing a disconnect to what actual anime is.

Hopefully you got something out of this. I don't wanna sound like I am arguing with you so this will be my last post, I hope the clears things up a bit. I am totally going to copy this for whenever the next of these threads comes up lol.


I don't call still art anime if that's what you're getting at, I'll probably say the still art has an anime or manga art style. Not going to try to take away Japan's use of the word, but we all have a general idea of what anime looks like. Yes there's some anime that are exceptions to this idea, but it's quite far from being typical in the industry, it's not so much like in the west where animation styles are all over the place.
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