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Ex-Gay Reparative Therapy movement
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Ex-gay is a term used in professional literature and by some reparative therapists, religious groups, and others to describe persons who used to be gay or bisexual, but now identify as heterosexual. When it was introduced to professional literature in 1980, Pattison defined ex-gay as someone who had "experienced a basic change in sexual orientation from exclusive homosexuality to exclusive heterosexuality."

However, since then, the term has been applied to people, who because of religious motivation, "have changed and also to people who are in the process of changing their lesbian or gay male identity."

ex-gay organizations consider reparative therapy to be a useful and necessary tool to treat homosexual desire, The medical and scientific consensus is that reparative therapy is not effective and is potentially harmful. The American Psychiatric Association issued a critical statement backed by numerous other mainstream medical organizations, which stated: "There is simply no sufficiently scientifically sound evidence that sexual orientation can be changed."

The statement went on to say that positions espoused by ex-gay organizations "are not supported by the science" and that they "create an environment in which prejudice and discrimination can flourish." Ex-gay groups assert that the scientific community has taken its stances on homosexuality due to political, and not scientific, considerations

Heres my question can Gay/Lesbian/Bi change their sexuality by a mere therapy session?

* some people did actually manage to change a little sexual desire to the opposite sex ( most of them fail, some had achieved less attraction sexually from thesame sex) but for me Gays/Lesbian are born the way they are and that cant be change by having those methods that they are using: Electrical method, hypnosis, medication, therapy seission and many more...surely God gave them choices but they are born that way....
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As a gay man I can give you a straight answer, pun intended. No. Saying you're not gay any longer because you fear "hell" doesn't make it true. It is not a choice, therapy or not. Plain and simple.
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Not all gay people are born gay. Some turn gay due to sexual abuse as a child. The latter category is where this type of therapy might work. This therapy will not work or a person that was born gay, and it's useless and damaging to that person if they try. This reminds me of the movie But I'm A Cheerleader.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/But_I'm_a_Cheerleader
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cured? That makes it sound like it's a disease. You can't "cure" them, but you can make them lie. Anyway I thought there was a gene that determined sexuality
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Fab4 did exist and I agree with artgeeks statement.
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it isn't a disease so it doesn't need to be cured.
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xidiya wrote:

it isn't a disease so it doesn't need to be cured.


exactly. the way you're talking about it, as if its some disease that these people have, and that the cure isn't scientifically sound. this topic is a bit .... damn dont know the word .... anti gay?

lol what ever it is get my point?
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how do u even know that u are bi\gay\lesbian?i'm really interested to find out the answear
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Personally, I believe that sexuality (weither hetro or homo) is simply what you are born with that can't really be changed by therapy.


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cured? That makes it sound like it's a disease. You can't "cure" them, but you can make them lie. Anyway I thought there was a gene that determined sexuality


I quite agree with you artgeek707. While it can't 'cure' them, it encourages lying to please a judgementful and hatefull society. Why 'would' you want to please such an obviously evil society?!

All "can one's sexuality be changed" questions aside, if you ask me, why would you 'want' to change it?

As long as both people involved truly love eachother, it shouldn't matter if they just happen to be the same gender or not! More people loving and caring for eachother is EXACTLY what this world needs! Not more people hating eachother for superficial reasons!!

Hating someone because they just happent to love someone with the same gender - That's a stupid superficial reason!

Hating someone because they just shot/stabed/or killed someone else for a stupid superficial reason - NOW THAT'S A GOOD REASON TO HATE SOMEONE!!

Even if...oh I don't know...some supernatural being is involved in this, like "GOD" made some people homosexual on purpose, I don't think it's to give cultist turd-monkeys something to kill!!

If anything, I'd think it would be population control. 'Cause, as you may or may not know, there are WAY TOO MANY PEOPLE ON THIS PLANET!! Since we humans used our intellects to destroy/control all predetors that could prey upon us, the only way left to keep the human population under control is either...

A) Extreme weather conditions such as hurricanes/typhoons, tornados, tidal wave/tsunami, flood, earthquake, volcaniac eruption. Even 'then' we're coming up with ways to try to make those methods useless!
B) Make sure we stop breeding.

If madmen like Hitler or Osama Bin Laden can kill dozens or even thousands of people and yet the human population STILL keeps going up like a rocket to the moon, that's cause for consern!
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And anyway, why do we always question homosexuality and never heterosexuality? No body never wonder "what cause heterosexuality" ... why not?

There is all kind of homosexuality.

Actually, 20% of the population is somehow homosexual:
2.8% are exclusive homosexual. They always have been attracted to to the same sex.
10% Actually had fantasy and have think as the other sex as attractive but never pass it in action.
7.2% Have fantasy and passed it in action at least once.

So far, its havent been prouven that homosexuality was genetic. It may be, but we didnt find it yet (except that research that have been conduct a couples years go where gay said he found tht homosexuality was genetic. It made the headline. To realise later he based his affirmation on his dissection of 7 dead bodies... and when we asked him "how he knew they was homosexual he said "they all died of AIDS" ... nothing very scientific... inst it ? )

There some rare case of psychological homosexuality. Feminist "turning lesbian" to prouve we can live in a society whitout man. Some very very rare case of person scared of a certain gender in their childrenhood... but those cases are REALLY RARE. Even raped, you will still be sexualy attracted to man or woman. There is a "trend" lately about woman saying they are bisexual, but there is a explanation to that too. which is way too long to be writed down here, if you want to know, quote me and i'll be more than willing to repeat it once again for everybody =P

The truth is, we have no clue what cause homosexuality. We have tons of theory why its the only equaly spead in all society, culture, economy and education. They even found what is the "usefullness" (is that a english word) of homosexual people. But we never found the cause.

Actually, i dont think you need to find a cause, in my mind you are just born that way. I know its havent been prouven but i can feel its that way. And i wouldnt know why people want to be "cured" of it. Its like being born with blue eyes of curly hair. The chance of succes is 0% and can be very harmull psychologicly to the person who have those kind of therapy. Really, it should be illegal to mess with people mind and soul that way...

Anyway... do you think its possible to "cure" heterosexuality? no? then there you have your answer.

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alexya4u wrote:

how do u even know that u are bi\gay\lesbian?i'm really interested to find out the answear


Trust me, if you was, you'll know. You just know. And when you realise it, its hella scary. But you get use to it, well i hope you get use to it. I work with alot of people who have identity problem and have trouble accepting who they are and have a hard time to admit they are attracted by the same sex. Or have familly and friend that refuse to accept it. Its so hard for them... I wish this to nobody...

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Because there are a lot of homosexual animals, it's pretty obvious that it's not a decision to be gay. You can't use therapy on animals either, so it can't be 'cured' with therapy in my opinion. If you're gay, you shouldn't even want to be 'cured' of it. Just respect and accept your own sexuality - no matter which gender you like.
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Im sorry but no amount of therapy is gonna turn me straight Its something i would never lose even when im told its evil/wrong etc. (the same old rubbish). Its not something bad so why does it need to change?
In my opinion with enough therapy you could do anything to anyone...
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cured? That makes it sound like it's a disease. You can't "cure" them, but you can make them lie. Anyway I thought there was a gene that determined sexuality


Being gay is a mental disease. However gay people can choose whether they wish to be cured or not. Those that choose not to will probably not get to heaven. I think a treatment center is great but cures depend on the persons personality.
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I have no idea whether homosexuality is a mental disorder or a merely a preference in the mind. Perhaps, any animal from a dual-gender species can be classified as having a deviation and disorder since it is biologically counterproductive to reproduction. They say that you can't change one's sexual preference and that it is a natural characteristic that doesn't hurt others. Yet, many genetic deviations or disorders for an organism do not get in the way of others. It doesn't mean that homosexuality is a reproductive disorder. If everyone was homosexual and we didn't invent methods to breed offspring through technology, we'd die out. Of course, people who are labeled as such are going to get upset about it since it's a sensitive topic such as race, religion, personal appearance, etc. On a logical sense, however, I find it somewhat believable that homosexuality is a recessive/disabling genetic condition for most species. Socially and morally, I don't want to say it of course since I would like everyone to be happy and peaceful as long as they don't hurt others. Being homosexual isn't hurting others (as far as I know) so I don't see how it is definitely immoral or bad. I basically have very little moral or social comment aside from my scientific perspective.
I don't think calling people who believe homosexuality as a condition or problem as stupid or idiotic is open-minded as well unless they don't have a good reason for their statements. Any belief has some merit as long as they have thought it over and have good reasons. Just as any person's belief can be called lackluster if the person hasn't really thought about it and bases it off of nothing.
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artgeek707 wrote:

cured? That makes it sound like it's a disease. You can't "cure" them, but you can make them lie. Anyway I thought there was a gene that determined sexuality


Being gay is a mental disease. However gay people can choose whether they wish to be cured or not. Those that choose not to will probably not get to heaven. I think a treatment center is great but cures depend on the persons personality.


Are you a dumb ass? It's not classified as a mental disease, which fucking medical center/website told you that shit?
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