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Ex-Gay Reparative Therapy movement
Posted 2/7/08

HokiePokie wrote:


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artgeek707 wrote:

cured? That makes it sound like it's a disease. You can't "cure" them, but you can make them lie. Anyway I thought there was a gene that determined sexuality


Being gay is a mental disease. However gay people can choose whether they wish to be cured or not. Those that choose not to will probably not get to heaven. I think a treatment center is great but cures depend on the persons personality.


Are you a dumb ass? It's not classified as a mental disease, which fucking medical center/website told you that shit?


Medical centers are ruled by the liberal right. One can't trust them
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Posted 2/7/08

Inoperfection wrote:


HokiePokie wrote:


Inoperfection wrote:


artgeek707 wrote:

cured? That makes it sound like it's a disease. You can't "cure" them, but you can make them lie. Anyway I thought there was a gene that determined sexuality


Being gay is a mental disease. However gay people can choose whether they wish to be cured or not. Those that choose not to will probably not get to heaven. I think a treatment center is great but cures depend on the persons personality.


Are you a dumb ass? It's not classified as a mental disease, which fucking medical center/website told you that shit?


Medical centers are ruled by the liberal right. One can't trust them


Yes, go ahead stay away from doctors and etc. They're all homosexual supporters, have fun getting a disease and dying. I won't fucking care.
Posted 2/7/08

HokiePokie wrote:


Inoperfection wrote:


HokiePokie wrote:


Inoperfection wrote:


artgeek707 wrote:

cured? That makes it sound like it's a disease. You can't "cure" them, but you can make them lie. Anyway I thought there was a gene that determined sexuality


Being gay is a mental disease. However gay people can choose whether they wish to be cured or not. Those that choose not to will probably not get to heaven. I think a treatment center is great but cures depend on the persons personality.


Are you a dumb ass? It's not classified as a mental disease, which fucking medical center/website told you that shit?


Medical centers are ruled by the liberal right. One can't trust them


Yes, go ahead stay away from doctors and etc. They're all homosexual supporters, have fun getting a disease and dying. I won't fucking care.


I'm not stupid, I'll only go there if I absolutly need it
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I think people choose to be gay. just like some one chooses to kill. Chooses to steal. Chooses to wear a black pants. Chooses to stay up late ...

Its a choice. As a MAN, and im saying MAN, not straight, gay or anything, just a MAN, that I can be attracted to anything if I wanted to. I could get attractive to to a door nob if I really tried. Its just a mental view. people are not born gay, straight.

A new baby, is like a white sheet of paper. The life of the baby, its experiences, writes on that sheet, and he becomes a collective entity of the experiences. Why do most men like Boobs? Is it not because we have TVs on, 24/7, that show big boobs on them , and saying they are the best? If they keep saying it in your head that THIS is attractive, it will become attractive.

So certainly, with trying, you can change you views on "attractive". I'm not saying being Gay is OK or NOT. Because who cares! But, I do think people can change they way they see.
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Posted 2/7/08

Inoperfection wrote:


HokiePokie wrote:


Inoperfection wrote:


HokiePokie wrote:


Inoperfection wrote:


artgeek707 wrote:

cured? That makes it sound like it's a disease. You can't "cure" them, but you can make them lie. Anyway I thought there was a gene that determined sexuality


Being gay is a mental disease. However gay people can choose whether they wish to be cured or not. Those that choose not to will probably not get to heaven. I think a treatment center is great but cures depend on the persons personality.


Are you a dumb ass? It's not classified as a mental disease, which fucking medical center/website told you that shit?


Medical centers are ruled by the liberal right. One can't trust them


Yes, go ahead stay away from doctors and etc. They're all homosexual supporters, have fun getting a disease and dying. I won't fucking care.


I'm not stupid, I'll only go there if I absolutly need it


Don't flatter yourself. :3

Posted 2/7/08

HokiePokie wrote:


Inoperfection wrote:


HokiePokie wrote:


Inoperfection wrote:


HokiePokie wrote:


Inoperfection wrote:


artgeek707 wrote:

cured? That makes it sound like it's a disease. You can't "cure" them, but you can make them lie. Anyway I thought there was a gene that determined sexuality


Being gay is a mental disease. However gay people can choose whether they wish to be cured or not. Those that choose not to will probably not get to heaven. I think a treatment center is great but cures depend on the persons personality.


Are you a dumb ass? It's not classified as a mental disease, which fucking medical center/website told you that shit?


Medical centers are ruled by the liberal right. One can't trust them


Yes, go ahead stay away from doctors and etc. They're all homosexual supporters, have fun getting a disease and dying. I won't fucking care.


I'm not stupid, I'll only go there if I absolutly need it


Don't flatter yourself. :3



what?
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I still don't like when people say that they can "cure" homosexuals. >.< It's not a disease so that's just not the right word to discribe it. I believe that you born with your sexuality, of course usually you notice your homosexuality later, in most cases kids believe that they are straight. Or something like that. Ok, probably they don't think about that but anygays. I think that you can go to theraphy and they can use any hoogieboogies on you and make you believe that you are straight. But in your heart, _you_are_not_. You should just accept it if you can. If you can't....Well, then it's bigger problem. Then you can let some guy brainwash you. I woulnd't do things like that, I have accepted my bisexuality and I can easily live with it. So it's not making things that hard, if I don't count the people who spit on me cuz of that.


Being gay or straight has nothing to with heart. It in you head. And the head can change ...
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Posted 2/7/08
Um, probably not. Its not something that needs to be cured, either. Its natural.
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RyoujokuNoAme wrote:

I still don't like when people say that they can "cure" homosexuals. >.< It's not a disease so that's just not the right word to discribe it. I believe that you born with your sexuality, of course usually you notice your homosexuality later, in most cases kids believe that they are straight. Or something like that. Ok, probably they don't think about that but anygays. I think that you can go to theraphy and they can use any hoogieboogies on you and make you believe that you are straight. But in your heart, _you_are_not_. You should just accept it if you can. If you can't....Well, then it's bigger problem. Then you can let some guy brainwash you. I woulnd't do things like that, I have accepted my bisexuality and I can easily live with it. So it's not making things that hard, if I don't count the people who spit on me cuz of that.


Being gay or straight has nothing to with heart. It in you head. And the head can change ...


I thought it was due to genetics.
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Posted 2/7/08

hezakkkk wrote:


RyoujokuNoAme wrote:

I still don't like when people say that they can "cure" homosexuals. >.< It's not a disease so that's just not the right word to discribe it. I believe that you born with your sexuality, of course usually you notice your homosexuality later, in most cases kids believe that they are straight. Or something like that. Ok, probably they don't think about that but anygays. I think that you can go to theraphy and they can use any hoogieboogies on you and make you believe that you are straight. But in your heart, _you_are_not_. You should just accept it if you can. If you can't....Well, then it's bigger problem. Then you can let some guy brainwash you. I woulnd't do things like that, I have accepted my bisexuality and I can easily live with it. So it's not making things that hard, if I don't count the people who spit on me cuz of that.


Being gay or straight has nothing to with heart. It in you head. And the head can change ...


She didn't mean it literally, she meant even if you medically changed it... you'd somewhat still be considered a homosexual deep inside of your true being.
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Posted 2/7/08

Inoperfection wrote:


artgeek707 wrote:

cured? That makes it sound like it's a disease. You can't "cure" them, but you can make them lie. Anyway I thought there was a gene that determined sexuality


Being gay is a mental disease. However gay people can choose whether they wish to be cured or not. Those that choose not to will probably not get to heaven. I think a treatment center is great but cures depend on the persons personality.


BEING GAY IS NOT A CHOICE. We can see this clearly in nature through homosexual animals. To claim they can be cured of something natural is kinda silly. I guess you are one of those people who think gays are going to hell. If so do us a favor and stab yourself in the heart you dumb ass zealot.
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I don't know if people have spoken of the points that i'm going to make, but if someone did; this is merely chance, i didn't intent to copy you (which i didn't, because i'm too lazy to read over everyone's post).

First things first, I may be biased, because *cough* I happen to be a girl who /only/ like girls.

As many people have pointed out, Homosexuality its not a sickness so therefore it cannot be CURED. The term cured, means bring around: provide a cure for, make healthy again; "The treatment cured the boy's acne"; "The quack pretended to heal patients but never ..., Homosexuality isn't a sickness, so therefore it doesn't need to be cured.

Now, not that I'm saying its impossible for Homosexuals to become heterosexual. but you'll have to look at the many data/facts according to this theory and what not. But its possible for "claimed to be" homosexuals to turn "heterosexual"

Fact:15% of heterosexual girls have actually TIRED kissing another girl
Fact:A lot of homosexuals are actually bisexual; just don't know it.
Fact:A lot of heterosexuals are actually bisexual; just don't know it.

but you may ask "How come they don't know?" because naturally, a person's sexuality "leans" to a gender. In the cases of the last two facts, those people are leaning to one gender "greatly" so therefore they don't notice; but they would if a person of the gender that they don't "favor" in decides to "kiss" or do something to them to make them alert.

So, it wouldn't be that surprising if a "confused" bisexual person, go to that "ex-gay" program and "realize" they're actually either "bisexual" or may "claim" to be heterosexual (because after all, they now have a choice of who to like) and therefore named/tagged as "heterosexual" (so, sexuality, in those cases are/am a choice for them )

but back to the question of "can all homosexuals be changed in to heterosexual?" PERSONALLY I think thats' completely BS. Its' like saying you can force a duck into a dog. -_-; It's unreasonable to think so; because after all, there's no scientific proof that it can be changed.

and as for the research that homosexual may actually be caused by Genes....doesn't that also apply to heterosexuals then? because then, those heterosexuals can now be changed into homosexuals; I don't think people will like that now, wouldn't they? because if you were to view homosexual as a sickness, then you'll have to view heterosexual the same because the two are indifferent to a degree aside from the different gender that which they're attracted to.

Though, there are research done on humans about how you sexuality changes the way your brain works; that actually kind of DOES relate. Because research have done, female and males have different brain. the same may apply to SOME homosexuals. because some lesbians have a male "type" of brain in some area of the brain. =) and some gays have the female type of brain in some area(s). Though this mostly applies to transsexuals.
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No, it's genetic. Maybe it could once gene therapy is more developed.
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No, it's genetic. Maybe it could once gene therapy is more developed.


There's no proof that is genetic. Because my whole line of family there's no homosexuals o_o; If i'm correct, i'm the only homosexual in my huge group of family

but i'm not doubting that it may be genetic, its just that there's no proof yet; so i wouldn't believe in it.

genetic things are still quite new to human kind, after all, we only discovered it around 2x years ago, and it wasn't till 20 years ago were we able to attract genetic thingys from our cells *I'm having this unit in Science class..xD*

and there are so many more things that science don't know about it, 99.9999% of the genes we have are almost useless to us, only less than 1% have a huge control over us. and its that "less than 1%" that can kill someone, or effect one person later on in life.
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darkmagiciangirl911 wrote:

No, it's genetic. Maybe it could once gene therapy is more developed.


There's no proof that is genetic. Because my whole line of family there's no homosexuals o_o; If i'm correct, i'm the only homosexual in my huge group of family

but i'm not doubting that it may be genetic, its just that there's no proof yet; so i wouldn't believe in it.

genetic things are still quite new to human kind, after all, we only discovered it around 2x years ago, and it wasn't till 20 years ago were we able to attract genetic thingys from our cells *I'm having this unit in Science class..xD*

and there are so many more things that science don't know about it, 99.9999% of the genes we have are almost useless to us, only less than 1% have a huge control over us. and its that "less than 1%" that can kill someone, or effect one person later on in life.


It's true that it hasn't been proven to be related to genetics but it's a theory that has a some backing to it. Other therapies wouldn't work anyway.
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