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Bullying VS Online Bullying
Posted 9/2/15


Im saying its not real.
because now it's easy to track anyone's IP and everything
you can make multiple accounts
you can go on websites that wont track your IP
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ignitingmemories wrote:

i mean you could take away online bullying with making diff accounts lol


It doesn't work like that. Did you even bother to read my post? They went to the lengths to get my full name, number, picture and general location. My privacy was fucking exposed to shit. You might laugh at cyber bullying and so would I at this point in my life. However for a young girl or any kid, having someone threaten you and harass you across multiple sites is fucking scary as it is depressing. I'm not talking about some brat simply pming someone with harassing messages or some jerk in a stupid game lobby. Not even a troll on a forum. It's when they go above and beyond to try and beat you down, physically or mentally, it's not a joke. No I didn't become 'suicidal', but just because I didn't doesn't mean the next younger more unstable kid might not.



The more extreme cases were also in the link I provided.


I did not consider that.
I suppose if someone is dumb enough to make his/her private information readily available to potential dangerous people cyber bullying could become a problem but it kinda would be beyond bullying at that point would it not?


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Posted 9/2/15 , edited 9/2/15

ignitingmemories wrote:
Im saying its not real.
because now it's easy to track anyone's IP and everything
you can make multiple accounts
you can go on websites that wont track your IP


...You can't remove the fact they have your picture, location, phone number, and real name.

I think you're confusing harassment and bullying online. When someone says 'I'm getting bullied on CR' and what they mean is some individual is sending them nasty pms, then yes they could make a new account to avoid it.

Now let's look at an actual case of bullying. A girl at school hears that there was a page made online that specifically means to make fun of her. She goes home and reads what people are saying about her on this website. People she knows and doesn't know are calling her a 'whore' a 'tramp' and an 'ugly bitch with a big nose'. She shuts down the computer and cries. She goes to school the next day, but can feel the stares on her back. After a few weeks she's found dead in a car from carbon monoxide poisoning.

That's not real to you?


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I did not consider that.
I suppose if someone is dumb enough to make his/her private information readily available to potential dangerous people cyber bullying could become a problem but it kinda would be beyond bullying at that point would it not?



I suppose it could be. That's more of what I consider bullying though. I think a lot of people online confuse general harassment with bullying. Bullying is often something people have a hard time avoiding or getting away from.

Bullying is not when a guy calls you a whore one day. Bullying is when he when he makes sure to be there at every lunch period to put you down. Same thing applies online.
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A girl at school hears that there was a page made online that specifically means to make fun of her. She goes home and reads what people are saying about her on this website. People she knows and doesn't know are calling her a 'whore' a 'tramp' and an 'ugly bitch with a big nose'.

if she knows none of this was true she should have ignored it
people will say shit about you regardless . doesn't matter
if someone says something about me & I KNOW ITS not true i wont cry about it
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why would you get offended or cry about what someone says about you if you know its not true????
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Posted 9/2/15 , edited 9/2/15

ignitingmemories wrote:
if she knows none of this was true she should have ignored it
people will say shit about you regardless . doesn't matter
if someone says something about me & I KNOW ITS not true i wont cry about it


That's the thing. Not everyone has the mental strength. Most people prone to it are the mentally ill, physically ill, and the young.

It's good you can handle yourself, certainly I can too. However, just because you and I could handle it, doesn't mean the 13 year old or the 16 year old with adrenal insufficiency can. Just because it's not a problem for you and I, doesn't mean it's not clearly a problem for other people.

I have a loving family to support me. Not everyone has that. Not everyone goes home and has people in their lives to assure them what they hear isn't true. So they just don't know. They never hear otherwise.

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Posted 9/2/15

ignitingmemories wrote:




A girl at school hears that there was a page made online that specifically means to make fun of her. She goes home and reads what people are saying about her on this website. People she knows and doesn't know are calling her a 'whore' a 'tramp' and an 'ugly bitch with a big nose'.

if she knows none of this was true she should have ignored it
people will say shit about you regardless . doesn't matter
if someone says something about me & I KNOW ITS not true i wont cry about it


I think this particular case makes my point nobody forced her to go check out the side it was her decision to do so she decided to let it affect her she could have ignored it never go there and read it but she made the decision in favor of being bullied.
The people responsible for the side should be punished severely but it doesn't change the fact that they did not force her to go to the side and read it.
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doesn't mean the 13 year old or the 16 year old with adrenal insufficiency can. Just because it's not a problem for you and I, doesn't mean it's not clearly a problem for other people.


never said it wasn't
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Doomedfox wrote:
I think this particular case makes my point nobody forced her to go check out the side it was her decision to do so she decided to let it affect her she could have ignored it never go there and read it but she made the decision in favor of being bullied.
The people responsible for the side should be punished severely but it doesn't change the fact that they did not force her to go to the side and read it.


You're right she didn't have to read it. That's just not how human nature normally works though. Most people almost feel a need to at least know what's being said about them behind their backs. How many people can you think of that you have met that actually care about what other people think of them? How many people have you met with low self esteem? How many of them tend to be younger? How many people can you think of that may be in a fragile moment of their lives?

Those people are usually the victims. It's not like they want to hate themselves, it's just a product of their minds. People can and will contribute to the way and manner people think.

If you don't' care what people think, you've been taught right. However, where did you learn it from? Friends? Family? Life experience?

Not everyone has that. There's a reason most victims are younger.


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never said it wasn't


I'm confused. You've made it clear you think cyberbullying isn't real. Though you're saying it's a problem. How is something imaginary a problem?

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It's all bullying no matter how you label it, there are some things that ppl are over sensitive about that I don't consider to be bullying but if you're being nasty to someone outright, constantly, even online, it's still a form of bullying.

Also, going around calling bullying victims weak is the exact same shit the bullies do, and the adults do in a school system usually if a child is being bullied. Blaming the victim is not the answer. Taking care of the problem and extinguishing the source is. The person who is being bullied is not a problem. Their bullies are. Don't go fuckin' victim blaming them, especially kids.

Of course, what would I expect from someone who supports the womanchild that is Nicki Minaj. That bitch is 32 goin' on 5.
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You've made it clear you think cyberbullying isn't real. Though you're saying it's a problem. How is something imaginary a problem?

its still not real to me so...
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Also, going around calling bullying victims weak is the exact same shit the bullies do,

i never said this????????
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Posted 9/2/15 , edited 9/2/15

ignitingmemories wrote:

its still not real to me so...



Okay....I think you're saying that it's not real to you but you acknowledge it's real and a problem for perhaps other people? I think? If so I gotchu, if not I'm confused and I'm just gonna waddle myself into a lake, lol.
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Of course, what would I expect from someone who supports the womanchild that is Nicki Minaj. That bitch is 32 goin' on 5.


what do you mean by this hun??
what if i said this to you??
then it would be labeled as online bullying
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Posted 9/2/15

ignitingmemories wrote:




You've made it clear you think cyberbullying isn't real. Though you're saying it's a problem. How is something imaginary a problem?

its still not real to me so...


It's not real, because it's not cyberbullying, it's just downright bullying.
Just like there is no "reverse" oppression. Any kind of oppression is oppression. And pretty much any persistent, painful interaction that involves belittling a victim repeatedly, mostly to bolster ones self esteem? That's bullying.
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