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A better way to update the minimum wage is to benchmark it to personal income growth in the economy as a whole. Per capita real personal income excluding current transfer receipts — that is, the personal income earned in the economy, excluding Social Security and other government programs, adjusted for inflation. Min wage should be over $23.00 an hour. So what is being done differently now that Americans are being nipped out of the money they should be making? One is in todays market are higher ups, and CEO's are making 380times more than what their employees make.

My question is why are people allowing them selves to be paid a 20th century wage in the 21st century? Its ridicules.

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Dude your arguments are literal bs I'm sorry if that is rude, but just a big fat no. The only point you make that hold water is the first one which I agree with. A federal minimum wage should not be anywhere near 10 dollars, it needs to be up to the states to determine the minimum living wage. Honestly in a perfect world a minimum wage would be unnecessary but sadly we don't live in a perfect world.
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PrinceJudar wrote:


biscuitnote wrote:

You have it so easy you just follow the status quo. I actually have real opinions and make hard choices keep living in your liberal bubble.


Oh the deep terrifying horror! I've been called a liberal and a SJW for crunching numbers and not succumbing to irrational extremist positioning. How will my life ever go on now!?!?!





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Irishsushi wrote:

Dude your arguments are literal bs I'm sorry if that is rude, but just a big fat no. The only point you make that hold water is the first one which I agree with. A federal minimum wage should not be anywhere near 10 dollars, it needs to be up to the states to determine the minimum living wage. Honestly in a perfect world a minimum wage would be unnecessary but sadly we don't live in a perfect world.


Can you give more concrete examples as to why?
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dyme420 wrote:

It's what you've been doing all along... So sure.. if it suits an argument you might have actually made.. instead of this fallacy that labor is to be treated like a commodity..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwVjAFXv4O0


If you actually watched the video it argues against you. LMAO. What's funnier is he's making fun of you.

You could read a bit on Labour economics and wikipedia for some general knowledge, but it might burn your eye sockets out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_economics



If you actually bothered to read, you would know that my by my first post I think $15 is ridiculous. Too quick on your liberal trigger ain't yah?

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This image sums up what I think of this thread...
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PrinceJudar wrote:

If you actually bothered to read, you would know that my by my first post I think $15 is ridiculous. Too quick on your liberal trigger ain't yah?



You should note for those calling you a bull shit liberal or an SJW that descending to insults means they have nothing of substance left. At which point you accept their white flag, declare victory and move on.

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papagolfwhiskey wrote:

You should note for those calling you a bull shit liberal or an SJW that descending to insults means they have nothing of substance left. At which point you accept their white flag, declare victory and move on.



Haha, you are definitely a wise one. I probably should. I actually sprained my ankle over this. I wish I was joking but I tripped over a remote.

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So now we are getting sexist in this thread because people are using facts and number crunching?


Nice.
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To be fair, we're going to transition over to machines with minimum wage jobs eventually in the west either way. That's why pure capitalism wont work in the future. Not unless there's a drastic cut to human population which I'm doubtful of. Transition into some capitalist/socialist system seems to be inevitable to me.
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biscuitnote wrote:


Stonewolfe wrote:

So now we are getting sexist in this thread because people are using facts and number crunching?


Nice.


I used facts as well princejudar just had a emotional reaction however and disagreed.


Yes I read the thread.


You also snapped back at judar like a 5 year old not getting their candy at checkout.
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biscuitnote wrote:

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Mostly agree with
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I good Im pretty sure its kinda hard to living those city's on 7.25 an hour.
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This is true but they don't pay much and definitely not enough.
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Or college students? young people trying to live on their own?
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Not everything from the 20's applies to today.
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If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich.-John F. Kennedy
This only applies if they have choice, you think someone WANTS to work at Mcdonalds for 5 an hour? hell no but they dont have many options.

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Nice regurgitated talk point. this isn't a reason to not pay fair wages.
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Dude no one wants to work at fucking arbys their whole life and if they do then they have more problems than being poor lmao.
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Ah yes lets give more money to people who dont work instead of pay those who want to work a fair wage. Honestly this sounds like a insentive for people to not work at all.

Overall its naive to think business will do the right thing history has shown that if you dont regulate the market they will tke whatever shortcut or screw over whom ever they need to make the most money.


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When looking at history (or worldwide businesses' practices in less developed countries), the assumption that the free market will force businesses to operate fairly in the absence of government intervention seems to fail time and time again. It just seems like wishful thinking...
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