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i had some really bad webcam shots buried in my downloads folder. but i guess they're decent reaction imgs.
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animegirl2222 wrote:

i had some really bad webcam shots buried in my downloads folder. but i guess they're decent reaction imgs.

What kinda reaction would that be
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i had some really bad webcam shots buried in my downloads folder. but i guess they're decent reaction imgs.




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animegirl2222 wrote:

i had some really bad webcam shots buried in my downloads folder. but i guess they're decent reaction imgs.

What kinda reaction would that be


I don't even know. Flabbergasted? WTF'd?
What, you looking for something more along the vein of these?

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I don't think censorship would solve it. Sailor Moon S and SuperS for example were censored on Cartoon Network between 1999-2001, but it didn't really make a difference. Pegasus was still telling Chibiusa that their relationship was a secret, and Cartoon Network left all of her NSFW scenes alone. (Okay, she's 902 years old by this point, so she is kinda an adult, but she still looks 9.)

Plus nobody wants to slog through a censored show, it gets obvious after a while. Even if you can't "see" it, you kind of know what's going on. I've never enjoyed seeing a censored show, so that's not what I'm getting at with the article.

The bigger problem is that we not only have adults drawing Loli scenes, but now we're making up excuses for them. The top five I heard this year at ComicCon were:

1. It's the culture. (Explain that to the BPO. They didn't buy it when they raised a stink over PriPara, so it's less likely they'd buy it here.)
2. It's just a cartoon. (It's still an underage kid. Gross. I don't care if he/she's 17 and three quarters. Ew. Gross.)
3. It's cute/kawaii/adorable!! (It's an underage kid. That's not cute.)
4. It's harmless. (Maybe so, but that's not really a strong excuse.)
5. But it's just fanservice.... (And if this was Nurse Joy or Vegeta, then that's fine. But the Chu-Bra kids? Gross.)

But I think I'm getting a good understanding of how accepting other adults typically are when it comes to seeing the underage in NSFW scenes. Apparently watching an 18+ year old in the buff is out and his/her kid sibling is in.

But let's keep going, guys. Why do you like seeing these scenes? Is it because of a memory, or should I be calling for help?
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For the most part, I actually agree with the article - which some might find odd considering my taste in shows.

I personally find it somewhat upsetting. They portray young characters in a manner that makes them endearing to you, and then a few minutes later they will portray them in provocative clothing or suggestive positions. It's quite jarring if you're genuinely invested in the endearing nature of the characters. It's almost like looking at a character like a little sister or a daughter and feeling attached to them, only to watch the creators toss them in skimpy clothing to appeal to the demographic that wants that kind of stuff. I actually find it quite dismaying

But good luck convincing anyone on this site that there's any issue on this front. Many have tried and all have failed. The motto here seems to be "If it can be done, then it should!" I wouldn't be surprised if they go full Aperture Science. Which is one reason why I try to frame the argument in terms of diversity of interests rather than morality. Okay - let's concede that there's nothing wrong with looking at fictional images of scantily clad underage girls, even so isn't it a bit sad that such a mentality has become so prevalent that truly endearing young characters have become hard to come by? To the point where people look at characters like Rin from Usagi Drop and Naru from Barakamon as the exception rather than the rule?

That's my stance, anyway. For what it's worth.
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I think you hit the nail on the head, so to speak. Thanks!
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Oh sorry when I said censoring I meant not drawing underage characters in a suggestive manner (like for new shows). At least they could spend more time on good stories than worrying if they have enough bear bait in a show lol
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Manga & Child Pornography: By definition, manga cannot be child pornography. Child pornography is photographic evidence of a crime where a real person is being subjected to real harm. Drawings are not photographs, and no real people are harmed in their creation. Prosecuting individuals for possessing art is a dangerous infringement on our rights


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i had some really bad webcam shots buried in my downloads folder. but i guess they're decent reaction imgs.


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I do agree it might be pushing some limits, but i don't think they promote pedophilia. Personally i'm not a fan of all that moe stuff and definitely would like to see more adult aged animes. The animes that do use underaged characters that i like are put in a position befitting their age and looks and not sexualized, but each to their own.
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Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out anybody who buys anime in the US is entered into the FBI Sex Offender database as "probable offenders" or something. Given what we know about US government + private sector data gathering activities.

I've noticed some commenters have said the "this thing" is a part of Japanese culture, but maybe it's more representative of otaku culture?
I'm no expert ofc, but just watching anime isn't representative enough to know mainstream Japanese culture, especially when nowadays anime is a segment that's highly catered to otaku taste.
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Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out anybody who buys anime in the US is entered into the FBI Sex Offender database as "probable offenders" or something. Given what we know about US government + private sector data gathering activities.

I've noticed some commenters have said the "this thing" is a part of Japanese culture, but maybe it's more representative of otaku culture?
I'm no expert ofc, but just watching anime isn't representative enough to know mainstream Japanese culture, especially when nowadays anime is a segment that's highly catered to otaku taste.

Hell buy a Shawarma for lunch and your most likely entered in the FBI's data base as a supporter of terrorism

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i guess it promotes bears. i mean, we have series like http://www.crunchyroll.com/polar-bear-cafe
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