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Have you tried replicating the types of foods you do enjoy at home? Even if it's Pizza, Hamburgers etc... you can create healthier and yes tastier alternatives at home instead of the processed frozen crap.

Swap out hamburger for ground turkey - it's leaner and healthier. Can still get a cheeseburger. - But you'll still have to load it with veggies - and use a light mayo or one made with Olive Oil instead of the usual stuff. If you season it properly you won't notice the difference.

Make homemade pizza. Even if you get a pre-made dough. Then you can put whatever toppings you want on it. Sure it wont be a 100% match with your favorite take out. But it will still be better for you.

I tried making Chicken Curry at home. It was pretty easy. The hard part being all the prep before cooking. I cheat by using Minute Rice - still it came out pretty good.

It sounds like your having an issue with eating healthier due to the fact you can't cook. Its not that healthier foods are "bland" or "tasteless". You just need to learn how to cook them properly.

Change is never easy. It takes time and practice. And you can still enjoy junk food. Just need to do it in moderation instead of having it be your daily staple.
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Your only pleasure from life is food, that's depressing man and I'm very melancholic.


well thats what you get as a loner / disabled / jobless person :P



Even if your depressed I don't see how you eat food to give pleasure that's always been more towards the female sex than male. Males tend to eat less when despressed.
In my expierence anyway and asking others from both sexes. I know myself tend to eat less than I usually do which is already not alot when I am in deep depression. 3 days without food was from my last emotional breakup years ago.

You don't need to tie your emotions to food.
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Kerst wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


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Your only pleasure from life is food, that's depressing man and I'm very melancholic.


well thats what you get as a loner / disabled / jobless person :P



Even if your depressed I don't see how you eat food to give pleasure that's always been more towards the female sex than male. Males tend to eat less when despressed.
In my expierence anyway and asking others from both sexes. I know myself tend to eat less than I usually do which is already not alot when I am in deep depression. 3 days without food was from my last emotional breakup years ago.

You don't need to tie your emotions to food.



Well i have a neurological disorder so i have like only two interests that cause pleasure.

Food and Gaming/Anime.

I eat alot more when i am upset but in general i eat for pleasure to make up for the pleasure i don't get from everyday life like those around me do.
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Do you usually cook your meal by yourself?
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avgjoegeek wrote:

Have you tried replicating the types of foods you do enjoy at home? Even if it's Pizza, Hamburgers etc... you can create healthier and yes tastier alternatives at home instead of the processed frozen crap.

Swap out hamburger for ground turkey - it's leaner and healthier. Can still get a cheeseburger. - But you'll still have to load it with veggies - and use a light mayo or one made with Olive Oil instead of the usual stuff. If you season it properly you won't notice the difference.

Make homemade pizza. Even if you get a pre-made dough. Then you can put whatever toppings you want on it. Sure it wont be a 100% match with your favorite take out. But it will still be better for you.

I tried making Chicken Curry at home. It was pretty easy. The hard part being all the prep before cooking. I cheat by using Minute Rice - still it came out pretty good.

It sounds like your having an issue with eating healthier due to the fact you can't cook. Its not that healthier foods are "bland" or "tasteless". You just need to learn how to cook them properly.

Change is never easy. It takes time and practice. And you can still enjoy junk food. Just need to do it in moderation instead of having it be your daily staple.


Going to do this a homemade pizza would be alot better you are right.

Thanks for the tips and yeah i do need to learn how to cook.
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Do you usually cook your meal by yourself?



I'm unable to cook that well and cause messes so its become a universal rule in my household that my mother will cook everything and i am not to cook anything

If you have seen the anime the pet girl of sakurasou alot of people say Shiina has the same disability that i have because of her inability to do daily things like cook and clean etc like a normal person can.

So it's a bit of a struggle for me as i may be intelligent (to an extent) but irl i'm a textbook copy of what she is like in the anime (infact most people like me seem to be)

needless to say i can't live on my own / cook / do most basic chores so learning to cook is a giant obstacle and one i'm not sure if im mentally prepared to take
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avgjoegeek wrote:t sounds like your having an issue with eating healthier due to the fact you can't cook. Its not that healthier foods are "bland" or "tasteless". You just need to learn how to cook them properly.

Change is never easy. It takes time and practice. And you can still enjoy junk food. Just need to do it in moderation instead of having it be your daily staple.


The secret benefit of learning to cook is that also junk food is expensive (I haven't been able to afford Twinkies in fifteen years, and can only buy ice cream once a month when it's on sale! ), while the core healthy ingredients, like flour, veggies, pasta and rice, are cheaper and come in very large packages.
Anything you could buy in a Lean Cuisine frozen dinner can be broken down into very simple ingredients, and like a scientific formula, the trick is in knowing how to put the right elements together so that they react in just the right way. The seasonings, like basil, paprika and oregano are trickier to learn, but you'll recognize them by smell once you get the knack of them.

I keep seeing how much expensive processed/preservatived food is providing "Instant dinners" to working adults who are too busy or never bothered to learn how to cook the basics from simple ingredients. Big Food is a deliberate conspiracy against that lazy generation.


Ryulightorb wrote:needless to say i can't live on my own / cook / do most basic chores so learning to cook is a giant obstacle and one i'm not sure if im mentally prepared to take


That's why I recommended slow-cooker soups--
If you can cut meat and vegetables (although most anime girls also have trouble with that ), recipes are usually just dumping stuff in and letting the pot do the magic, without burning, boiling over, or largely having to be attended to.
(Yes, some chefs say "It's not just about 'dumping stuff in'", but when you start with one, that's the fun of it.)

That, and stir-fry (which usually requires a lot of seasoning and might be too spicy), are the quickest ways to learn the "Simple elements" theory.
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It does taste good. You're just a bad cook.
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Harsh. Maybe if you talked with your mom about wanting to learn to cook she might even help you and the ban could be lifted. Cooking is more of a focus thing. You should know what you are doing ahead of time before you do it and not have to run to get everything. That is when it starts to get bad. You might need to do one thing but you are running for an ingredient you forgot. Get a recipe. Prep everything before and just follow the order and you will be perfectly fine.

Big rule alot of people don't follow that will frustrate your household having worked at a restaurant. Clean as you go its huge. It will save you a lot of time and frustration at the end. Part of cooking is cleaning make sure each pot and pan or whatever else you're using is clean or you are not finished cooking. That will also mellow people out it was one of the more frustrating things in my household when dishes would build up and people couldn't clean up after themselves insta-ban from the kitchen.
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avgjoegeek wrote:t sounds like your having an issue with eating healthier due to the fact you can't cook. Its not that healthier foods are "bland" or "tasteless". You just need to learn how to cook them properly.

Change is never easy. It takes time and practice. And you can still enjoy junk food. Just need to do it in moderation instead of having it be your daily staple.


The secret benefit of learning to cook is that also junk food is expensive (I haven't been able to afford Twinkies in fifteen years, and can only buy ice cream once a month when it's on sale! ), while the core healthy ingredients, like flour, veggies, pasta and rice, are cheaper and come in very large packages.
Anything you could buy in a Lean Cuisine frozen dinner can be broken down into very simple ingredients, and like a scientific formula, the trick is in knowing how to put the right elements together so that they react in just the right way. The seasonings, like basil, paprika and oregano are trickier to learn, but you'll recognize them by smell once you get the knack of them.

I keep seeing how much expensive processed/preservatived food is providing "Instant dinners" to working adults who are too busy or never bothered to learn how to cook the basics from simple ingredients. Big Food is a deliberate conspiracy against that lazy generation.


Ryulightorb wrote:needless to say i can't live on my own / cook / do most basic chores so learning to cook is a giant obstacle and one i'm not sure if im mentally prepared to take


That's why I recommended slow-cooker soups--
If you can cut meat and vegetables (although most anime girls also have trouble with that ), recipes are usually just dumping stuff in and letting the pot do the magic, without burning, boiling over, or largely having to be attended to.
(Yes, some chefs say "It's not just about 'dumping stuff in'", but when you start with one, that's the fun of it.)

That, and stir-fry (which usually requires a lot of seasoning and might be too spicy), are the quickest ways to learn the "Simple elements" theory.


i have trouble with an omellete and cracking and egg ..let alone meat.

I might want to try slow cooker soups haha
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Ryulightorb wrote: Grapes , Strawberrys , potato , peas ,carrot , lettuce , onion.
The majority of most meats without sauces.

and those are the only things i can stomach without vomiting (life long problem i can't do anything about except avoid food that does that)

They all taste so bland and i guess "Natural"? it's just so boring and brings me no pleasure at all.
Well I think you have the problem allready there...
You have only taken a liking to fat products and that is your body that feels its better or more tasty to eat even more fat.
Even though you can make "healthy" atleast more healthy then the food before by stepping down a few steps to take a liking too it.

My first advise is to combine and try to get less fat etc until you can get the "real" taste of fruits etc.

Its like coke, drinking too much will make other things less sweet
(because of it being really sweet from before)
I may add chili as it can "help" mostly anything to make you like healthier food
(as it can give the punch and can give some tast to you or could get the addiction for it making you like the strong taste vs the fatty feeling/taste)

and many things can create tastes like milk, we just had sweet potatos and when boiled a bit and in the ovn with salt/pepper they get this sweet tast (a bit like carrots and milk combined as I do on work for those who can't eat or can only swallow)

There is nothing that says healthy food cannot taste good and be both filling and fulfilling. You just need to learn to plan your meals and cook.
True but also don't go all no meat no dairy, dairy and meat can still be as good for you like buying a kebab from time to time.
Posted 9/8/15

Ryulightorb wrote:


raisaa wrote:

Do you usually cook your meal by yourself?



I'm unable to cook that well and cause messes so its become a universal rule in my household that my mother will cook everything and i am not to cook anything


Yes, it's common thing. Actually I also often mess up my cooks even though I'm a girl.

Maybe when you want to eat something tastier, you can try to drink the fresh water/the fresh fruit juice/fresh fruits pieces before you enjoy the meal. Then, as usual you keep go to the gym. However, it will be even better if you keep trying to eat the healthy food each day. You can ask your mother to help you to cook the simple healthy meals for you such as egg rolls, vegetables soup with tofu and a bit meat cuts, etc. (mr google knows much better about this ). It's not that bad when you've become accustomed.
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There are more recipes available now to add more flavor to so called healthy food than ever before.It's been easy for me because I love vegetables and gardening and I'm not addicted to dairy and red meat like many I know..
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    I think plenty of people already like the taste of those things. I've always loved vegetables and fruit, not because they're healthy but because they taste amazing to me. I would say that you need to find alternate methods of preparing your meals. You don't want to be put off completely, or you'll just resort back to your old eating habits once you've lost the weight, and it will be a yo-yoing cycle. Cook your vegetables with seasoning, brother! A little bit of garlic and salt won't heart you. Potatoes are fine, just make sure you eat the skin. Add sour cream and spring onion. Don't be afraid of adding a little butter to your steamed vegetables. Everything in moderation. I never use sauces on my meat. Try dry rubs and premade seasoning blends if you're not that savvy with spices. They're just as delicious and there are low-salt / salt free versions.

    Try smoothies if you hate the natural taste of fruit. Most sweeter fruits like mangoes or bananas need little to no added sugar. Use milk, yogurt, ice, and whatever fruit you want. You'll find it tastes better and it's easier to get your servings in. You can also throw in vegetables ;p I've had smoothies with kale, beet, carrot, etc. and there was enough fruit to mask the flavor of vegetable, so perhaps it's something you should play around with.
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ayaundwolf wrote:Cook your vegetables with seasoning, brother! A little bit of garlic and salt won't heart you. Potatoes are fine, just make sure you eat the skin. Add sour cream and spring onion. Don't be afraid of adding a little butter to your steamed vegetables. Everything in moderation. I never use sauces on my meat. Try dry rubs and premade seasoning blends if you're not that savvy with spices. They're just as delicious and there are low-salt / salt free versions.

Try smoothies if you hate the natural taste of fruit. Most sweeter fruits like mangoes or bananas need little to no added sugar. Use milk, yogurt, ice, and whatever fruit you want. You'll find it tastes better and it's easier to get your servings in. You can also throw in vegetables ;p I've had smoothies with kale, beet, carrot, etc. and there was enough fruit to mask the flavor of vegetable, so perhaps it's something you should play around with.


Try getting Greek yogurt (as opposed to regular)--Plain Greek yogurt, even lowfat, is almost indistinguishable from sour cream, and with a lot less of the cream fat/cholesterol; it'll serve on baked potatoes and goes great in smoothies too.

Kale, beet and carrot work perfectly in smoothies, as they're naturally sweet vegetables (always thought straight carrot juice tasted like weak chocolate milk), and blend just the right way with fruit, if you don't mind the color.
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