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Do you think we will ever make healthy food that tastes good?
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You can get a lot of good recipe recommendations on the forums at http://www.caloriecount.com/. You can also log your food to track your nutrition. The people there have been through this struggle themselves, so they have good tips. The trick is to try things that you think would work for you because you are a unique individual and therefore have different needs.

That said, the other people here are right, you need to retrain your tastebuds. My guess is that veggies taste bland and bad to you because you eat too much salt or sugar, so anything that isn't as salty or sweet doesn't taste like anything to you. Don't immediately cut out the things that you love though, just take it one day at a time. Every day, do one thing better than you did yesterday, and you will find your healthy habits add up over time. Trying to do it all at once causes some serious rebounds like your issue with the ice cream sandwich.

The other thing is that you're probably eating the wrong foods. We all have preferences with our taste, so 'general' healthy food won't work for everyone. For example, I grew up thinking I hated salads until I had one that I actually liked. It turned out that I just hate iceburg lettuce, but that I like the stronger flavoured greens like romaine, baby spinach, and arugula. Similarly, I don't like salads very much unless they have at least one fruit, so I tend to add tomato to all of my salads.

Another thing I learned about myself is that eating too many acidic things like strawberries, oranges, and tomatoes that I will get canker sores in my mouth really easily. I love all three items, but I have to eat them in moderation. I think that you might have a similar intolerance to something in the other foods that are making you throw up. Start small, because these things are good to eat but you need to be moderate with the things that your body is intolerant towards. In time, you may or may not find that these foods are easier to digest because the gut bacteria in your intestines will become healthier and better able to handle them.

Furthermore, your problem may be with the vegetables and fruits themselves, as in you are not buying good ones. There are lots of guides online for how to select the best tasting produce and meat. I had no idea that I liked celery (I thought I hated it) until I got a really good celery at the farmers market. It was the same for cucumber. Side note: chopped celery and cucumber with a tablespoon or two of peanut butter for dipping is a very yummy and healthy snack once your tastebuds have adjusted and you are buying good produce.

As for meat, I only ate fish for a long time so I have recently been learning that I really do not like pork or beef unless they are heavily seasoned or fried, so I choose not to eat them because my body is clearly not okay with eating them. Pork in particular gives me a bit of a stomach ache, most likely because I no longer have the right balance of intestinal flora to digest it.

This is getting really long, so I'm just going to finish up with one very important tip: when increasing fibre in your diet (ie. whole wheat products, cereals, vegetables, etc.), drink more water or else you will have trouble digesting it! Although, if you really are eating too much salt and sugar, you probably can't drink plain water either, can you?
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ayaundwolf wrote:Cook your vegetables with seasoning, brother! A little bit of garlic and salt won't heart you. Potatoes are fine, just make sure you eat the skin. Add sour cream and spring onion. Don't be afraid of adding a little butter to your steamed vegetables. Everything in moderation. I never use sauces on my meat. Try dry rubs and premade seasoning blends if you're not that savvy with spices. They're just as delicious and there are low-salt / salt free versions.

Try smoothies if you hate the natural taste of fruit. Most sweeter fruits like mangoes or bananas need little to no added sugar. Use milk, yogurt, ice, and whatever fruit you want. You'll find it tastes better and it's easier to get your servings in. You can also throw in vegetables ;p I've had smoothies with kale, beet, carrot, etc. and there was enough fruit to mask the flavor of vegetable, so perhaps it's something you should play around with.


Try getting Greek yogurt (as opposed to regular)--Plain Greek yogurt, even lowfat, is almost indistinguishable from sour cream, and with a lot less of the cream fat/cholesterol; it'll serve on baked potatoes and goes great in smoothies too.

Kale, beet and carrot work perfectly in smoothies, as they're naturally sweet vegetables (always thought straight carrot juice tasted like weak chocolate milk), and blend just the right way with fruit, if you don't mind the color.


    Not to mention delicious. Greek yogurt in any incarnation is nice. It's sour enough for it to be used on savory foods plain, but the kind that incorporate fruit are so good too. I've never served it with baked potato though, so I'll have to try.
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Google "If It Fits Your Macros"


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We do, it is called kabobs.

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THere's plenty of healthy good food.
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Veggies when cooked and prepared right in food combined with reduced sodium, carbs while at least walking at least 1 hour a day will drop that fat really quick. If you have to get things with salt, get sea salt. Stay away from using canola oil or other vegetable oils, use extra virgin olive oil.

Stay away from wheats, flour or other high carb foods if you can, stay away from processed food as much as possible, If you do pasta get rice pasta.

Take it from me I used to be right where your at, I was 200 lbs on a 5'3 body, borderline high blood pressure, borderline diabetes, I turned around my life and almost around 150 lbs, some fat left over but within another year most of it should be gone.
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Soooo about 25 minutes from my house we have the first drive thru vegetarian restaurant in maybe the USA not sure
Rohernt Park in Marin
Amy's its really good sweet potatoe fries with a veggie burger and a smoothie shake

Amysdrivethru.com- check out the menu on website its pretty new but hoping it becomes a sucess
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eat crappy food and just run a lot then you can eat rubbish and sill look good. try running every day for a few miles
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Ryulightorb wrote:

So i'm someone who is overweight .soon not to be due to dieting but right of now i have to say my life is a living hell.

I eat tastless horrible food (fruit and veggies with nothing to mask there putrid taste) and basically super unfilling meals and i noticed i don't get satisfaction from eating healthy food.

I actually took up the gym to work of 400 calories just so i could eat a 300 calorie icecream bar because eating healthy food was driving me nuts since it was bland and tasted natural.

As someone who can't eat anything remotely / slightly bitter i have like very little to eat since sweet and healthy things are rare i have to eat bland shit.


Anyhow that aside my friend is overweight he eats a pizza every week (like i used to) and his food choices are basically for the same reasons i have noticed.

As it stands unhealthy food is more convenient, cheaper and filling and produces the most enjoyment where as bland meals like steak and potato and corn is bland and disgusting.

Does anyone think we will ever make healthy food that tastes remotely enjoyable?



I feel you, I'm in the same situation

When I eat healthy I get depressed and cranky. I'm not overweight but the doctor recommended me a plant based diet only because I have a bacteria that gets stronger when I eat unhealthy stuff.

I can't eat anything except all green stuff. I can't even eat fruits, eggs, cheese, potatoes, dressings, beans, rice, pasta and junk food is my #1 enemy so I should stay away from it no matter what BUT...junk food is so delicious!!!! so I was always feeling like dying...

Until my mom tried to be more creative and incorporated all types of spices in my food. This is what she makes for me and it tastes delicious (I don't cook lol):

Oil: coconut oil to cook and olive oil for salads.

Spices/herbs: cayenne pepper(my favorite), black pepper, oregano, paprika, turmeric, cinnamon, salt,basil, rosemary, peppermint, cumin, dill, garlic, ginger and that's all I remember

Meat: organic chicken, salmon. red meat and pork are out of my diet because they make me feel really sick. I'm sorry, I can't NOT eat some type of meat and the doctor said it was ok and recommended me the healthiest ones: organic chicken and wild salmon.

Milk substitute: almond milk

Rice substitute: Quinoa or barley (I prefer quinoa)

Egg substitute: Tofu, get the extra firm tofu and eat it like scrambles eggs with kale, cauliflower or broccoli. It tastes like eggs and the texture is like cheese, it is my favorite stuff so far!

All green stuff like broccoli, kale, spinach, celery, cucumbers, peppers...if it is green = healthy.

My mom usually makes me roasted vegetables with salmon or chicken. She roasts the veggies in the oven and sprinkles them with cayenne pepper and many herbs or she fries them with garlic and coconut oil until they're crunchy (coconut oil was recommended by my doctor) and it tastes DELICIOUS!!!

If you just boil them it's gonna taste bland and boring.

I do all that because of health reasons but if you only want to lose weight please AVOID: everything white (rice, flour, cookies, bread etc) and all sweets, that means no fast food and cakes. You can search for substitutes like the ones I mentioned above. There's even a cheese substitute made out of nuts but I have never tried it. Eat a combination of legumes, grains, organic white meat, and of course vegetables.

Or like the person above me said, exercise! I know people who eat fast food and all types of food and they are thin...that's because they exercise a lot, running is the best one to stay lean and when you get to a weight you're happy with you can start lifting weights to build muscle. Usually the more you eat, the more you should exercise to burn off calories. But it is good to cut off rice, pasta, bread and sweets because they can cause other diseases even if you exercise or so my doctor said

Good luck!
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yuummmmy wrote:but if you only want to lose weight please AVOID: everything white (rice, flour, cookies, bread etc) and all sweets


And sugar--Brown sugar, while not any less calories, has a healthier bit of molasses than white sugar, and has a more unique taste.
(Try baking just a little of it on an apple with cinnamon, or on oatmeal.)
And while it's good to avoid white rice and white bread, that doesn't mean you can't have a little bit of brown rice and whole-grain bread once in a while.

Also avoid white drinks, as red berry/grape juice has more antioxidants than white grape juice, and white green tea is just a pointless contradiction in terms.


yuummmmy wrote:Until my mom tried to be more creative and incorporated all types of spices in my food. This is what she makes for me and it tastes delicious (I don't cook lol):

Egg substitute: Tofu, get the extra firm tofu and eat it like scrambles eggs with kale, cauliflower or broccoli. It tastes like eggs and the texture is like cheese, it is my favorite stuff so far!


Or, for that matter, an egg substitute like Egg Beaters: Egg whites scrambled with powdered yolk in a healthy oil, with all the yolk cholesterol removed.
Because the egg whites are still real and healthy, the substitute can also be used for all baking/egg purposes, but taste and scramble the same as regular eggs. (Even for those who have trouble with omelets.)
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Ejanss wrote:


yuummmmy wrote:Until my mom tried to be more creative and incorporated all types of spices in my food. This is what she makes for me and it tastes delicious (I don't cook lol):

Egg substitute: Tofu, get the extra firm tofu and eat it like scrambles eggs with kale, cauliflower or broccoli. It tastes like eggs and the texture is like cheese, it is my favorite stuff so far!


Or, for that matter, an egg substitute like Egg Beaters: Egg whites scrambled with powdered yolk in a healthy oil, with all the yolk cholesterol removed.
Because the egg whites are still real and healthy, the substitute can also be used for all baking/egg purposes, but taste and scramble the same as regular eggs. (Even for those who have trouble with omelets.)


never heard of that one, I will tell my mom to try it not eating eggs was one of the hardest things I had to do, I loved eggs! especially the yellow part but tofu tastes good so I was like 'ok I can survive' I will try to make the egg beaters once I find it. Thanks for the rec!
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Ejanss wrote:
I keep seeing how much expensive processed/preservatived food is providing "Instant dinners" to working adults who are too busy or never bothered to learn how to cook the basics from simple ingredients. Big Food is a deliberate conspiracy against that lazy generation..


I cook my lunches ahead of time for the week and freeze them.

This week is pot roast. Took 10 minutes to toss everything in the slow cooker yesterday morning, another 10 minutes to put everything away and clean my cooker last night. No mess, no fuss.

I go heavy on the potatoes, carrots and onions, with only 2-3 ounces of meat per serving.

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Dariamus wrote: I go heavy on the potatoes, carrots and onions, with only 2-3 ounces of meat per serving.
Oh damn the potatos contians so much ;P
even people living on that, sad many things its only for potato chips and just a fatty fast food stuff. ;(

Also that it helped so many out of hunger!

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It's called sushi. And gummy vitamins.

When I cook, I do not rely very heavily on seasonings and fancy techniques. You just need to know how to bring out the best flavor in the food you make. The best dishes, IMO, do not need to be elaborate and colorful. They need to be simple and consistently made right. I rarely make things that require more than a few ingredients. I dislike obscuring the natural flavor of the food. There is little skill involved in following a recipe. The skill is in the mastery of basic things such as temperature control, a keen eye, knowledge of how to improvise and taste test and fix your cooking mistakes so you don't end up with a nasty dish. You want to be able to make the best with what you have.

Usually, all you need to do to lose weight is eat fewer calories. You don't need to exercise two hours a day but that's nice, too, since muscles use calories, so having more will help you burn more.

When you eat calorie-dense foods like candy and bacon, your stomach has less spce filled than if you eat veggies and such of the same caloric value. When you cut back on food, you'll want to do so slowly. Don't go from 3000 calories to 1500 in one day, you're not going to be able to do it. Go to 2800, 2600, 2400, 2200, 2000, etc.

As you do this, eat more calorie-light foods to wean yourself off the heavy diet. Most importantly, drink more water and cut out the soda. The most crucial trait to have is willpower. Don't overindulge more than once a week until you reach your goal and are disciplined enough to know you can keep yourself there.
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actually there are things you can do to make healthy food tasty. i usually use herbs or spices that i pick fresh but you can also use storebought.
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