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Post Reply The Kim Davis controversy: are religious beliefs a valid reason to break the law?
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Posted 9/9/15 , edited 9/16/15
Discussed in the first half of the article.

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/all-scientists-should-be-militant-atheists?intcid=mod-most-popular

I would have to say no in most cases, especially in a secular society like the U.S. is supposed to be. Religious freedom does not permit you to use your beliefs to inflict harm on others.
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The first amendment prevents the government from imposing religious beliefs on everyone. Kim Davis is an elected government official and has no right to use her position in the government to put her beliefs above other people. If she doesn't want to do her job anymore, she should find a new job. No one is stopping her from working in a church or a community center or something. All she's after is fame and money. She doesn't even practice her religion and she expects to get paid an $80,000 salary for a job she refuses to do. It's sad that so many Christians are falling for her hypocrisy.
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Posted 9/9/15 , edited 9/13/15
Having an imaginary friend is no excuse to break the law and inflict harm on other people.
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Posted 9/9/15 , edited 9/9/15
Shes a dick and the fact she got so much support baffles me. Ehh. Its obvious shes trying to be some kind of "Martyr" for her shitty religious agenda.
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If she believes in her religious beliefs like there's no tomorrow, she should have been denied a marriage license for adultery.

Tsk tsk tsk
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I keep pointing this out no where within the Constitution is there a part defining a religion for this country. If there was then that would be the religion this country is founded on. In fact the Constitution states in the First Amendment states the government can not make any law abridging a person religion which means we can't tell a person what they can or can't believe. But it also states that it will not establish a religion as well which means if you are part of the government you can't push your views on to others and the church can't use government to push it's religious dogma.

We are defined as a secular nation with no religion within our founding documents the belief that the founders wanted this to be a Christan nation is whole cloth create by big business. Shocking yes but it is a means by which to control the masses.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/15/opinion/sunday/a-christian-nation-since-when.html

http://www.salon.com/2015/04/19/christian_america_is_an_invention_big_business_right_wing_politics_and_the_religious_lie_that_still_divides_us/
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Posted 9/9/15

PhantomGundam wrote:

The first amendment prevents the government from imposing religious beliefs on everyone. Kim Davis is an elected government official and has no right to use her position in the government to put her beliefs above other people.


That in and of itself is a perfect response. I do not deny her her own beliefs, and one should respect the right she has to them, in as much as her practicing said right does not infringe upon the abilities of others to practice their equally important rights.

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It honestly baffles me when people defend or cheer on this woman. She should have quit her job. Her behavior is no act of faith.
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Posted 9/9/15
In a secular society, your religion's laws shouldn't trump that societies laws regardless of how strong your faith is.
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Posted 9/9/15 , edited 9/12/15
No, there is no excuse for religion and breaking the law. Mrs. Davis doesn't even have justification based on an unbiased reading of the Bible.
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Posted 9/9/15 , edited 9/12/15
Hell no.

Do your fucking job. There's a time and place for religion and a government job is not it.

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Posted 9/9/15 , edited 9/12/15
But...this is America you can have any religon here the hell...
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Besides the fact that the government shouldn't be involved at all in marriage, I thought this is one of those retarded law loop-holes that nobody has legal closed yet. Kind of how the fed law still says weed is illegal, but WA and CO (and every state with MM) says "Fuck you, 420 blaze it"

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She claims to be religious and yet she's been married four times, had 3 children out of wedlock with men she wasn't married to and has other "blemishes" on her character. Now here she is having a rally, coming out to Eye of the Tiger by Survivor. The band has issued a Cease and Desist letter for her to stop using the song as her use of it is against their beliefs and values as well as being used without their permission. Kim tends to like her religion so much it's a wonder how easily she forgets "Thou Shalt Not Steal" is part of that religion she swears she's defending .
Posted 9/9/15
I'm glad we all agree on something guys.
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