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http://www.icdv.idaho.gov/conference/handouts/False-Allegations.pdf


Posted 9/10/15

MissKittenVicious wrote:


Eiltrix wrote:

It's really not something we need to work hard to prevent. It's straight up a case of he said she said for the law, and the law tends to favor the he, instead of the she, unless the he is the one being raped, then he isn't enough of a he, to be a he, so he doesn't deserve their support. (Basically he isnt manly enough because he got raped, and the rapists are manly enough to be supported.)


Not too long ago, I saw an episode on this law / justice show my mom was watching about a boy who was accused by his neighbor of raping her. She had had sex with her bf, but upon getting pregnant did not want to admit to her mother, so she simply said that she was raped by their neighbor's son. The poor guy was jailed based on her testimony alone. It ruined his life and his family's reputation. That thing really made me angry. And in the end after he was released from prison, she had the fucking nerve to face him and ask for forgiveness?! So much for the law favoring him, huh...


lol, and here i thought that prosecutors have it bad trying to prove anything happened. That's gotta be the most boring episode ever.
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I think it's stupid, that's what I think.

If you give consent and proceed, you can stop anytime, but you can't really retroactively say there was no consent because you changed your mind. Unless you're some kind of time lord, I don't think this is considered rape. It's considered not thinking your decisions through enough. The other person is not a mind reader. You actually have to tell them things for them to understand what you are thinking. If there's no communication, that seems like it's your own problem.

If you pay for a service and then tell them you changed your mind and don't need it after they are done, they'll laugh at you. And, no, you don't get a refund. It's not theft, either. You're just being unreasonable.


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Posted 9/10/15

UnComikal wrote:

You know what they told us in Basic Military Training? (ie bootcamp)

They said if you think the other person might regret the night, be the first of the two of you to report you got raped. Seriously. And it goes both ways, though the jury might be less sympathetic to a man reporting he got raped.

That's so messed up; we were basically told that it's a rape race. To avoid getting reported as the rapist, you should report the other person first.


I"m not surprised about this kind of advice in the military given aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalll the sex scandals that were brought to life "don't ask, don't tell" etc., like a couple or so years ago. Women are really abused in the military -_-.
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Happen to a friend of mine, because he was going to break up with her. Luckily the people in charge of the case were smart enough to realize the truth.
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Posted 9/10/15

yuummmmy wrote:

I find this ridiculous and sad because it is an actual thing:



So guys, be careful who you touch especially if it happens in college because now you're seeing as a rapist or sexual abuser even if the girl consents to the act.


Actually consent goes out the window when while you're having sex, she or he says he doesn't want to anymore, and no matter where you are in the act (close to climax, etc.), and you know in that heightened state, the other party decides to jail bait you by saying no... if you don't stop with X seconds, it's rape. There's some court cases that discuss the # of seconds. It's less than 5....

so you can take consent away at any time.
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It's an old scam and the police will never believe a victim of it.
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Just make the girl sign under a paper saying that she wanted to have sex and it's not rape. Keep it stored away, then have sex. Easy!
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Posted 9/10/15

cleruninja wrote:

I know they're not 100% accurate, but if BOTH parties in these scenarios are required to take a lie detector, and BOTH results pointed to the same conclusion, I would think at least 90% of such cases could be dismissed easily...


Lie detectors have several problem the least of which are they can be beaten and they have a high false positive rate. The fact you can beat them with basic biofeedback tricks makes them useless for the courts. In the case described it is refer to as sour grapes and medical examines as well as actual investigation can find this out. Though the history of false accusation is there with this subject actual rapes are more common then they should be the simple rule is no means no.
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Posted 9/10/15

lambofgenesis wrote:


yuummmmy wrote:

I find this ridiculous and sad because it is an actual thing:



So guys, be careful who you touch especially if it happens in college because now you're seeing as a rapist or sexual abuser even if the girl consents to the act.


Actually consent goes out the window when while you're having sex, she or he says he doesn't want to anymore, and no matter where you are in the act (close to climax, etc.), and you know in that heightened state, the other party decides to jail bait you by saying no... if you don't stop with X seconds, it's rape. There's some court cases that discuss the # of seconds. It's less than 5....

so you can take consent away at any time.


The problem is that it only applies to males(Consent in College) and not to girls.

Posted 9/10/15

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LOOK HERE: Picture is inside of a Spoiler-click, as it contains a very mild sight of nudity.

The picture below sums up the discussion:



In the past years, this act/dialogue has been a corner stone of many harsh debates that led to other forms of discussions. The man is now at a standstill, with possibly the court against him in the near future, even if the act was consensual.

How does this make you feel? What do you think of the situation on the male and/or females end?


Liar ! There not nipples or any peach to see.
Posted 9/10/15

severticas wrote:

lol, and here i thought that prosecutors have it bad trying to prove anything happened. That's gotta be the most boring episode ever.


It was rather infuriating, actually.
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Posted 9/10/15 , edited 9/15/15
disgusting a women would do this to be honest


MattMiller wrote:

Honestly this cartoon probably represents less that 1% of rapes.

Look bottom line if the woman or man doesn't want it at any point before or during then its rape. Understanding that make your choices on how to proceed. If your worried about it ask your partner, in the end you have a choice to stop yourself.


it happens more then 1% alot of men are charged as rapists who aren't.

Because we only listen to the women sadly

i would say 10-20% personally but im not that sure but its def more then 1%
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Posted 9/10/15 , edited 9/15/15

Mrcreepday wrote:

Just make the girl sign under a paper saying that she wanted to have sex and it's not rape. Keep it stored away, then have sex. Easy!
Yeah, I don't know much, do I?


problem is they can take there consent away mid sex.

But then if they do so and the guy does stop she can still turn around and get him jailed for raping her its so disgusting
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