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Posted 9/10/15

lambofgenesis wrote:


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You know what they told us in Basic Military Training? (ie bootcamp)

They said if you think the other person might regret the night, be the first of the two of you to report you got raped. Seriously. And it goes both ways, though the jury might be less sympathetic to a man reporting he got raped.

That's so messed up; we were basically told that it's a rape race. To avoid getting reported as the rapist, you should report the other person first.


I"m not surprised about this kind of advice in the military given aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalll the sex scandals that were brought to life "don't ask, don't tell" etc., like a couple or so years ago. Women are really abused in the military -_-.


DADT has nothing to do with any sex scandal, what are you talking about?
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Posted 9/10/15 , edited 9/15/15

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Just make the girl sign under a paper saying that she wanted to have sex and it's not rape. Keep it stored away, then have sex. Easy!
Yeah, I don't know much, do I?


problem is they can take there consent away mid sex.

But then if they do so and the guy does stop she can still turn around and get him jailed for raping her its so disgusting


But having a signed contract of some sort is kind of enough to get you out, right? No?
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Posted 9/10/15 , edited 9/11/15

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http://www.icdv.idaho.gov/conference/handouts/False-Allegations.pdf




Thank you. This is a non-issue, honestly..
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Posted 9/10/15 , edited 9/15/15

Finny-sama wrote:
Thank you. This is a non-issue, honestly..


10% false rape allegations isn't exactly a non-issue, especially when taking into account the large effect that allegations can have even without a conviction and the general rate of false accusations among non-sexual crimes being around 2%.

While there shouldn't be any change in legal policy based on these findings, there should also not be any change in legal policy based on these findings. While that may sound redundant, by the first part of the sentence I mean that there should not be any increased scrutiny placed on those claiming to have been raped by officers or in a court of law (however, we could do without the mob justice mentality often seen in high profile rape cases), and the second part of the sentence means that we should not shift the burden of proof onto the accused as has been suggested multiple times before.
Posted 9/10/15 , edited 9/11/15
Just steer clear of these females that might try to set you up cause you never know what they might do
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I thought the rape talk died out...
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I feel like there isnt enough punishment for women who lie about rape. The guy ends up slandered, and if hes enrolled in any university; most likely expelled without due process. And when the man asks for justice, the law responds with "le we dont want to discourage women from coming forward" excuse. Even though they filed a false police report and if it makes it to trial they also commuted Perjury(which is a federal offense).
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Posted 9/10/15

Mrcreepday wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


Mrcreepday wrote:

Just make the girl sign under a paper saying that she wanted to have sex and it's not rape. Keep it stored away, then have sex. Easy!
Yeah, I don't know much, do I?


problem is they can take there consent away mid sex.

But then if they do so and the guy does stop she can still turn around and get him jailed for raping her its so disgusting


But having a signed contract of some sort is kind of enough to get you out, right? No?

you would think so but i think they could still trial you or say they forced you to sign it.

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Even if the girl decided it's rape, she and her representatives need concrete evidence to prove it. Words won't back her that much, especially if they have friends that already assume they have consensual to do whatever they want. Evidence, dude, need evidencE.
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Even if the girl decided it's rape, she and her representatives need concrete evidence to prove it. Words won't back her that much, especially if they have friends that already assume they have consensual to do whatever they want. Evidence, dude, need evidencE.


No I mean if you're a popular guy then words won't be enough

but if you're a huge loner with antisocial tendencies... who do you think the court will side with?
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lambofgenesis wrote:


onibrotonel wrote:

Even if the girl decided it's rape, she and her representatives need concrete evidence to prove it. Words won't back her that much, especially if they have friends that already assume they have consensual to do whatever they want. Evidence, dude, need evidencE.


No I mean if you're a popular guy then words won't be enough

but if you're a huge loner with antisocial tendencies... who do you think the court will side with?


That wouldn't do.
The court is responsible to provide evidence to which the jurors must based their verdict upon. Jurors can't be biased or swayed by emotions.

If crimes can be solved by saying sorry, then we don't need lawyers or cops or etc.
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This makes me think of a Law and Order episode I saw a long time ago. The guy was a Pro Football player I think it was and in his house he had Video cameras specifically setup above his bed constantly recording so no women could pull any fake rape accusations on him.


Too bad we aren't all super rich and able to afford something like that.
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Posted 9/11/15 , edited 9/11/15
Jurors are very much biased and swayed by their emotions. This is why submitting very specific jury instructions with the goal of being objective without overextending (and essentially pushing them to vote one way) can be a tough thing to do. Everyone is potentially swayed, actually.

In the courtroom, body language matters. The way people conduct themselves matters. The way stories are told matters. Although many try hard not to be biased, that is ultimately quite difficult to do. If a person is acting strangely and stuttering, they suddenly seem a lot less truthful, even if they are telling the truth and they are merely very nervous being in court.
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Posted 9/11/15

onibrotonel wrote:


lambofgenesis wrote:


onibrotonel wrote:

Even if the girl decided it's rape, she and her representatives need concrete evidence to prove it. Words won't back her that much, especially if they have friends that already assume they have consensual to do whatever they want. Evidence, dude, need evidencE.


No I mean if you're a popular guy then words won't be enough

but if you're a huge loner with antisocial tendencies... who do you think the court will side with?


That wouldn't do.
The court is responsible to provide evidence to which the jurors must based their verdict upon. Jurors can't be biased or swayed by emotions.

If crimes can be solved by saying sorry, then we don't need lawyers or cops or etc.


That's the whole point -_-. It's the same witch hunt only we're wearing suits now.

They'll try to show eevidence of both their characters and the prosecutor will get aaaaaaalllll the girl's friends to paint her an honest and sweet person and then get random people in the guy's class to paint him creepy and weird. So it becomes suddenly uber likely that he raped her.
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"My boss is off, let's look on Crunchyroll and see what normal, grounded anime fans are discussing....


oh, same misandrist nonsense as everywhere else on the internet"

Here's a tip- if you think the person you want to have sex with A- Doesn't want to, B- Feels pressured into it by you due to some guilt trip obligation thing, C- Is in a state where he/she is incapable of making a well judged decision then just don't have sex with them. They'll appreciate you more for it, you won't get accused of rape (which is unlikely anyway as rape isn't widely reported when it actually happens). Maybe get to know someone before you have sex, find out if they want to.

If someone is accused of rape, chances are very high that they raped someone... oh wait, what? They DENIED it?! I was expecting the person facing criminal justice to just throw their hands up and say they did it! Well if they DENY it they must be in the right... Charles Manson can be released and the prisons can be emptied.

Please people, think about who is spreading these ideas about false accusations because its inevitably going to be the self proclaimed "nice guys" that hate women, call them sluts on the internet and post butthurt messages on forums about how girls never go out with "nice guys".....
"there was this girl at school who I wanted to have sex with, so I made friends with her so I could wait until she was emotionally vulnerable then try to have sex with her but when her dog died and she was hugging me and crying she said she didn't see me like that! then she dated someone else who wasn't as nice as me, the guy who only wanted sex out of feigned compassion, and as a result I'm going to play WOW and watch Naruto and tell the world how all women are evil rather than going out and meeting some"
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Posted 9/11/15 , edited 9/11/15
Avoiding rape accusations is rather simple. Make a contract any time you want to have sex.
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