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I don't trust Israel or Saudi Arabia.
They're snakes in the grass,
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ChaoticRuins wrote:

I think you guys give that country a bad rap. I mean, sure it's next to places like Iraq, but believe it or not from what I've hear they are actually very wealthy in the oil industry. The chance to do trade with countries like US would be kinda amazing, think of all the oil they would sell for cheep in order to keep good relations with us. Gas prices would even lower than they are now.

Besides, even if they do get attacked what's stopping us from helping them (NOT TROOPS, but instead supplying them with weapons and providing support drone strikes), we're a powerhouse nation we would have no problem. And if these enemy territories are allied by others, we can inform our allies about the threat and get massive assets.


AND ANNNNNNNNNND I think they've learned their lesson after so many years of sanctions, call me crazy but i don't think they'll think of betraying us. That is, if we welcome them for open arms like we do our allies and not continue to be stubborn and shun them.


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The other five nations that negotiated with the U.S. approved the deal unanimously. What are you seeing that they aren't?


And yet Israel has been the largest critic of this deal because it gives their worst enemy nuclear weapons. If this deal really does keep nuclear weapons out of Iran's hands, that would mean Israel is safe. Everybody who is going along with this deal is placing too much trust in a regime that is constantly talking about nuking Israel as a direct result of this deal as I type this. There's also the fact that this deal clearly states Iran will be a nuclear power in 10-15 years by the time these false restrictions have been lifted.

Why do you think Obama had to resort to threatening his own party with war in order for them to not oppose this deal?

If this deal stopped Iran from gaining nuclear weapons, Israel would be the most vocal supporter of this deal whereas Iran would never agree to such terms. Don't fall for Obama's propaganda. He claims the sky the green and the grass is blue with this deal. Taking his word for it is a terrible way to assess the effectiveness of this deal. Iran is being given far too much freedom here and it's Israel and the U.S. that are paying the price. Obama only has a year and 4 months left in office so of course he's not concerned about his own safety. When Iran has been discovered to have completed a bomb, he'll be in Hawaii laughing his ass off at the problem he left for his successor.

Exactly. I was watching his press conference about the Iran "Deal", and he said "if there's a better alternative I want to hear it", and he kept overusing that statement (it was aimed for Republicans and Liberal Obama-critics). What was wrong with the way we've been dealing with Iran before? This is like letting a convicted felon own a firearm.
Posted 9/10/15
Sounded like a good thing at the time..however I agree it sounds a bit too good to be true. A lot of niceties on the surface and I share your skepticism, OP.

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Time to get these old girls out of mothballs I guess.
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AirMarshall wrote:



If you didn't notice, Iran has a very powerful, very well-funded military, easily a top-10 military power in the world. If they start using this nuclear energy the US allows them, and if they do attack a nation, even if all of NATO gangs up on them, there will be heavy casualties. Russia will aid them too, they're their arms dealer after all, and the US doesn't have good relations with them at the moment, and they are another top 10 military power.

So do you still think it's worth the risk sir?



They won't be able to build a weapon with only three percent of their uranium supply. And even if they tried, it would be near impossible tO do so undetected. They have no incentive to break the agreement.

Why would Russia aid Iran if Iran used a nuke? Russia helped us negotiate the deal, they don't want Iran to get a bomb either.
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It looks like a lot of you guys who say this is a good thing are forgetting one very crucial fact: this entire deal is based on the assumption that Iran will cooperate. FFS they're openly announcing to the world right now that they won't and they'll use this deal to attack Israel. How much more obvious do you want it to be before accepting the truth?! If you're waiting for Obama to go on t.v. and admit it, you're better off searching for the lost city of Atlantis.
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Again, a lot of you seem to be operating under the assumption that it would be difficult for Iran to produce a bomb under the current economic sanctions, and yet that seems like it couldn't be further from the truth. Our current course of action is not working.

In the event that Iran does not cooperate in the long term, they gain pretty much nothing from this deal. They will have already given up their Uranium and removed their Plutonium making potential. The only thing they will gain in return is some money from the temporarily lifted sanctions which will fall back into place should Iran break the deal.
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geauxtigers1989 wrote:


AirMarshall wrote:



If you didn't notice, Iran has a very powerful, very well-funded military, easily a top-10 military power in the world. If they start using this nuclear energy the US allows them, and if they do attack a nation, even if all of NATO gangs up on them, there will be heavy casualties. Russia will aid them too, they're their arms dealer after all, and the US doesn't have good relations with them at the moment, and they are another top 10 military power.

So do you still think it's worth the risk sir?



They won't be able to build a weapon with only three percent of their uranium supply. And even if they tried, it would be near impossible tO do so undetected. They have no incentive to break the agreement.

Why would Russia aid Iran if Iran used a nuke? Russia helped us negotiate the deal, they don't want Iran to get a bomb either.


What? They have nothing to lose and everything to gain from breaking this agreement. Why wouldn't they break it? This deal specifically allows them to go undetected. The IAEA can't inspect them until after they've already had lots of time to mess with the evidence. That's the entire point of the analogy I left you with in an earlier post.

And did you forget Russia is Iran's closest ally? Of course they would help Iran. The very reason they agreed to this deal was because they know fully well that Iran will try to take advantage of it. The U.S., U.K. and the other western nations that agreed to it are placing too much trust in a regime that is currently shouting to the world right now that they're stab us in the back. What more will it take to convince you that this was a bad idea?
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Something like this been happening since the 80's or earlier. I have no clue how America is surviving with all that debt.
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Why would Germany declare war on the US if Japan bombed the largest US military wharf in the Pacific, while being under a crippling oil embargo?

How did they build a massive navy, arguably the greatest assembled during WW2 without imported fuel to power their ships? Because they found alternatives around the embargo. Conquering most of Asia helps too, but that still doesn't change them not receiving any imported oil. Yes oil is more abundant than uranium, but this analogy corresponds with what the US is doing with this deal. Iran is dedicated to the destruction of the US and anyone we like; they will use this deal to their advantage.

Posted 9/10/15
Then there is North Korea. Oops, forgot that one.
Posted 9/10/15
inb4 end of the world
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What I've gathered from this conversation:

Some of you would trust a notorious murderer with a weekly delivery package full of rounds for their assault rifle just because they wrote on a piece of paper that they won't use it for a year. Clearly such a person is trustworthy and has no intention of secretly killing people during the huge windows of opportunity you're giving them. If you feel like they've violated the terms of the contract, you can always just have a local police officer take a look at their stash of bullets when the murderer says they can, because obviously this guy wouldn't lie after having a history of being deceptive... What could possibly go wrong with such a well regulated system?
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