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The whole issue makes me glad I went to school before the era of the internet really started.

I feel like the entire generation of the Millionials needs a bloody good, old-fashioned, hiding.

...Especially considering they're from the generation promoting the idea of children's sports not having winning or losing sides... because 'feels'


Yeah. In this case especially it's harming discussion and education in general. Professors are increasingly worried about offending their students. It has become a form of censorship to prevent sparring with opposing viewpoints and challenging perspectives.


Ironically for me, one of my lecturers at Tafe is an SJW Feminist Transwoman.

Oh the fiery debates we have had.

...The best part is she can't kick me out because I'm paying to be there.


Oh that sounds like fun :D

Probably not that difficult to win debates right?
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I really have to wonder where the majority of people spent time on the internet to even see things like trigger warnings. Typically when I am researching or looking at something, I have a general idea about what it's about and what topics will occur. Same thing applies to college, I would assume certain classes contain certain subject material. I just have to wonder why "said" panic problems would be looking at or attending something that could upset them. I feel in this day and age everybody is trying way to hard to cater to every specific need which just isn't possible.
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More Christina Hoff Sommers on this issue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtxxzKNlzXo

What's funny about the video though is the comments.



Lmao. Right!?!

Christina Hoff Sommers is moderate left leaning before anyone freaks about the link (Although FOX tries to label her kind of conservative. Which is odd, but she's smart enough to correct it). It is an entertaining short interview though.
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I didn't know what a "trigger warning" was until one day I was reading a story from Humans of New york in Instagram (he's so cool) and the story was about a guy who was abandoned by his father at 4 and raped at the foster home by a guy for many years.

Many people( all women) started to ask him to put "trigger warnings" and telling him he should be more sensitive of people who might have gone through the same thing because reading that story would could hurt them or if he could at least change the story a bit for the young readers.

I was like someone who goes through something like that could find triggers everywhere and the story wasn't even graphic. I didn't like the idea of censoring or putting warnings and we know that most people, especially kids, will read something faster when it has the word "warning" so I find it useless to tell others what they can say or not.

I believe that when we have a problem the best thing to do in order to feel better is face that problem and not ignore it. I agree with what others have said that if you have a huge trauma you should seek psychological help instead of asking for trigger warnings.
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I didn't know what a "trigger warning" was until one day I was reading a story from Humans of New york in Instagram (he's so cool) and the story was about a guy who was abandoned by his father at 4 and raped at the foster home by a guy for many years.

Many people( all women) started to ask him to put "trigger warnings" and telling him he should be more sensitive of people who might have gone through the same thing because reading that story would could hurt them or if he could at least change the story a bit for the young readers.

I was like someone who goes through something like that could find triggers everywhere and the story wasn't even graphic. I didn't like the idea of censoring or putting warnings and we know that most people, especially kids, will read something faster when it has the word "warning" so I find it useless to tell others what they can say or not.

I believe that when we have a problem the best thing to do in order to feel better is face that problem and not ignore it. I agree with what others have said that if you have a huge trauma you should seek psychological help instead of asking for trigger warnings.


Serieously, what's wrong with people? Tsk tsk tsk -shakes head- They lack apathy.
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There's a difference between being able to empathize with others are pitying them way too much. The former is usually okay. The latter is just unhealthy for everyone involved.
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There's a difference between being able to empathize with others are pitying them way too much. The former is usually okay. The latter is just unhealthy for everyone involved.


Unhealthy in the sense it's become a tool of suppressing opposing viewpoints and intellectual sparring.

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Serieously, what's wrong with people? Tsk tsk tsk -shakes head- They lack apathy.


Or people are too sensitive these days...I show my sympathy by helping people, not by censoring them.
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severticas wrote:

Serieously, what's wrong with people? Tsk tsk tsk -shakes head- They lack apathy.


Or people are too sensitive these days...I show my sympathy by helping people, not by censoring them.


They don't need the sympathy. But having empathy and not using it courageously is wasted empathy. [i just made that up, not quite sure what i mean yet]

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Morbidhanson wrote:

There's a difference between being able to empathize with others are pitying them way too much. The former is usually okay. The latter is just unhealthy for everyone involved.


Unhealthy in the sense it's become a tool of suppressing opposing viewpoints and intellectual sparring.



It's even worse than that. It prevents people from even mentioning or learning about things that are problems. Problems don't magically solve themselves just because people choose not to hear them or talk about them.

Ultimately, this causes people to focus on smaller and smaller issues until things become absurd. Yeah, I don't want to talk about war. So what about this stupid band that I really wanted to see that decided not to tour here, it's the worst thing ever! Oh my god, I have to write an essay! I hate life!
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It's even worse than that. It prevents people from even mentioning or learning about things that are problems. Problems don't magically solve themselves just because people choose not to hear them or talk about them.

Ultimately, this causes people to focus on smaller and smaller issues until things become absurd. Yeah, I don't want to talk about war. So what about this stupid band that I really wanted to see that decided not to tour here, it's the worst thing ever! Oh my god, I have to write an essay! I hate life!


I think you just found the fundamental issue of the new millennium.

Posted 9/14/15
disappointed to find this isnt about triggers next animu :c
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A trigger is not something that makes you mildly uncomfortable. That's what people don't get. It's something that spirals you into panic, based on the fact that it reminds you of a bad memory of event. Triggers, actual ones, usually occur with PTSD victims, usually veterans. But we can't let the Tumblrites know that a Cis White Male Veteran possibly has PTSD because he's a Cis White Male Veteran and by their logic, he can't have PTSD. Says the bitches claiming thier parents telling them to clean their room gave them PTSD.


From the video:

Richard McNally, a Harvard psychologist and expert on anxiety disorders, recently published a review of the relevant research which suggests that these warnings do more harm than good. It turns out that most trauma victims are resilient, they don’t need therapy and certainly don't need trigger warnings. For the small percentage who suffer from Post-traumatic Stress Disorder, trigger warnings appear to be counter-productive. “Avoidance,” says McNally, “reinforces PTSD. Conversely, systematic exposure to triggers and the memories they provoke is the most effective means of overcoming the disorder.”


So even for legitimate cases of PTSD, trigger warnings are still counterproductive.



that guy sounds like a dick (pun folks), I doubt very much that most trauma victims are resilient, which is why the trauma screw them up. I am still screwed up from the trauma I have faced over a decade ago, and one of my dearest friends still has nightmares of her rape, the idea that trigger warnings are harmful is utter nonsense. People will face their trauma when and how they are able, shoving it down their throats will only do more harm to them.
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Trigger warning is an internet thing. Some sites use it a lot others don't. It's impossible to uses it for everything since what may upset a person is subjective. I think some people are confusing it with censoring. No one has to comply with a trigger warning. Just because something may have a trigger warning does not mean it will be avoided so that theory of some people with PTSD developing an avoidance coping behaviour is flawed.
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