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Post Reply Is psychology a science? I don't think so.
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I studied psychology in university several years ago. I dropped out of my psychology program two years ago mainly because I realized a shockingly large amount of the stuff they teach you in psychology is pseudoscientific.

I'm smart enough to question authority, and not believe everything my teachers tell me. If you don't question what you are being taught in school, you will never be a true intellectual. If you blindly believe whatever they teach you in school, then you are a mindless drone. Question everything they teach you in school if you want to become an intellectual.

Anyways, I will give you examples of pseudoscientific nonsense in psychology. Some people claim that cognitive neuroscience or biopsychology is a rigorous science, and is based on solid scientific evidence. Except it isn't when you examine it carefully.

According to most psychologists, humans are superior in intellect to other animals because we have more complicated brain structures than other animals. But obviously this is a biased and false assumption because it presupposes that humans are more intelligent than other animals. In actuality, humans are not really anymore intelligent than other animals. The fact that we have a more complicated brain and a larger brain to body ratio than most other animals, doesn't really make us smarter than them.

Animals with very simple brain structures (like fish, reptiles and insects) display remarkable amounts of intelligence if you studied them. Yet if you closely examine human behavior on your own time, you will realize that humans, despite our large brain, are sometimes unbelievably stupid. The fact that we also fight pointless wars is also proof that we are not so smart.

Psychologists like to claim that humans are smarter than other animals because we have a larger brain to body ratio. But that's nonsense like I already proved. The brain to body ratio has, little to no positive correlation with intelligence.

Also, psychologists make up psychological disorders, syndromes and other mental illnesses. I was diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome in Grade 5. I recently realized that Asperger's Syndrome doesn't even exist! The most recent version of the DSM (Diagnostic Statistical Manual) even says that Asperger's Syndrome doesn't even exist. I do believe certain people might be mentally ill, but psychologists and psychiatrists don't help them very much by drugging them and diagnosing them with certain "disorders".

Another example of pseudoscience in psychology is developmental psychology. Developmental psychology makes the false assumption that the older a person is the more mature and intelligent they should be. But simple empirical observation demonstrates that age has little to do with intelligence. Some older people are incredibly dumb. On the other hand, some younger people are incredibly smart.

Developmental psychology also makes the baseless claim that people's lives progress in a linear, stage-like fashion. Yet in actuality, each person develops at a different rate and in a different way. There is no way you can categorize someone based on a strict and linear series of developmental stages.

I realized that psychology is mostly a tool used by the elite/ruling class to manipulated and exploit the worker class. Yes, there is some truth to psychology, but most of the psychology "facts" they teach you in university is heavily-laced with pseudoscience.

Majoring in psychology is mostly worthless. It is one of the worst majors to go for. About the only major that's worth majoring in university would be computer science, computer engineering or any other rigorous computer-related field offered at universities or community colleges.

If you want to understand how the human mind works and want to become a happier person, read about psychology on your own time on the Internet. Or get some books on psychology. Don't waste your time and money studying psychology in university. It is almost totally worthless because, like I mentioned before, a large percentage of the psychological theories they teach you in university are complete nonsense.

That's my quick rant on psychology. I studied psychology in university, and therefore I have the authority to say when psychology is pseudoscientific. Of course, so-called "experts" at psychology aka psychologists wouldn't have the courage to tell you the truth about psychology. Or more likely they have been brainwashed by their so-called "education" to unquestioningly believe in the nonsense they were forced to memorize in school.

Trust me. I studied psychology in university. And I'm being a whistleblower by telling you the truth about the so-called "scientific" discipline of psychology. Even Noam Chomsky, a psychologist by profession, admits that you are better off learning psychology from reading books than studying it in university. Learn about psychology by reading fictional and non-fictional books rather than wasting your time and money studying it in university. You will be much better off following my advice.

In summary, psychology contains copious amounts of pseudoscience. It is only partially a real science, but it contains enough pseudoscience in it, that many people are completely justified by saying that "it is largely a pseudoscience".

I don't need a PhD in psychology to understand psychology. I studied it in university for two years, and that's all the proof I need to prove that psychology is riddled with pseudoscience.

This concludes my rant on psychology. I hope you learned the truth about psychology. Or maybe you already knew that psychology is heavily-laced with nonsense? Either way, psychology cannot justify calling itself a real science once you realized it is heavily-based on pseudoscience and a lack of/fake empirical evidence.



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The problem is you're both correct, and incorrect.

Anything can be called a hack or a good program, take the vaxers and gmos for instance. Sure there are good and bad things about all of these things, but there will always be people who stand on both sides, and there will always be information passed along that is altered to produce the desired information that mucks up all the potential correct findings, and facts. All the good vaccine studies are buried at the bottom of the search engines because fear mongers can easily bump up the scary stuff

Even anime has been named the cause of deviant behavior, when other factors were to blame. Also look how many times that video games have been named as the reason crap hits the fan.

Yup, you certainly can learn a lot more just studying out of books, and it really depends on the course. You typically need the higher level courses to assist with your research process and paper writing.
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this is ridiculous lmao
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Long as the scientific method is used, it is a science. Science keeps changing, it will even go backwards. Paleontology started with dinosaurs being possibly warm blooded, then they switched to cold, back to warm, and are now debating they were even stratified between the two.
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DesuMaiden wrote:
In actuality, humans are not really anymore intelligent than other animals.

Just out of curiosity: which animal species are - according to you - just as intelligent as humans?
I think I'd like to try playing some chess with them. /s


DesuMaiden wrote:
I studied psychology in university, and therefore I have the authority to say when psychology is pseudoscientific.
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I don't need a PhD in psychology to understand psychology. I studied it in university for two years, and that's all the proof I need to prove that psychology is riddled with pseudoscience.


Hahaha. Though I don't know what college you went to, you should note you're insulting the entire discipline rather than just your uni's courses.



A pseudoscience is a fake science that makes claims based upon faulty or nonexistent scientific evidence. In most cases, these pseudosciences present claims in a way that makes them seem possible, but with little or no empirical support for these claims. Graphology, numerology, and astrology are all examples of pseudosciences. In many cases, these pseudosciences rely on anecdotes and testimonials to back up their often outlandish claims.


I don't see this as applying to psychology at all. Psychology is a "soft" science. All studies in psychology employ empirical and statistical methods - the same as "hard" sciences. It's just that what's being measured is not tangible, therefore you need to rely on statistics to extract usable information from your tests and experiments.

How many psychology articles (I'm talking stuff published in peer reviewed journals) have you read? Their conclusions are based on evidence; researchers aren't just pulling their data out of thin air, you know.
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Psychology is made up of a lot of different sciences... is what i heard somewhere, i was half listening so don't ask me the details. Might have been from a neuropsychologist.
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tl;dr
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psychology is a social science, which is an oxymoron really.


Whereas wrote:How many psychology articles (I'm talking stuff published in peer reviewed journals) have you read? Their conclusions are based on evidence; researchers aren't just pulling their data out of thin air, you know.


http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/new-study-studies-wrong-article-1.2340301
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Guy goes to college for 2 years, learns maybe the bare minimum, says its all BS because he's obviously an expert in the field. Sigh today must be Sunday, it's always the day the crazies come out to play...

Did you also stay at a Holiday Inn last night
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namealreadytaken wrote:

psychology is a social science, which is an oxymoron really.


Whereas wrote:How many psychology articles (I'm talking stuff published in peer reviewed journals) have you read? Their conclusions are based on evidence; researchers aren't just pulling their data out of thin air, you know.


http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/new-study-studies-wrong-article-1.2340301


This issue isn't limited to psychology, however:
http://healthland.time.com/2010/10/20/a-researchers-claim-90-of-medical-research-is-wrong/
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Haruna-kai wrote:

Guy goes to college for 2 years, learns maybe the bare minimum, says its all BS because he's obviously an expert in the field. Sigh today must be Sunday, it's always the day the crazies come out to play...

Did you also stay at a Holiday Inn last night


scientists already confirmed that the psychology research published in scientific journals are flawed.
(as per link posted in my previous post)
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Whereas wrote:


namealreadytaken wrote:

psychology is a social science, which is an oxymoron really.


Whereas wrote:How many psychology articles (I'm talking stuff published in peer reviewed journals) have you read? Their conclusions are based on evidence; researchers aren't just pulling their data out of thin air, you know.


http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/new-study-studies-wrong-article-1.2340301


This issue isn't limited to psychology, however:
http://healthland.time.com/2010/10/20/a-researchers-claim-90-of-medical-research-is-wrong/


a claim by a single researcher should be taken with a grain of salt.
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scientists already confirmed that the psychology research published in scientific journals are flawed.
(as per link posted in my previous post)


Sigh, definitely Sunday...

1. Science doesn't know everything and is flawed in itself.
2. I dont care if its flawed, it makes no difference to me.
3. My point was you dont become an expert by reading a few articles on the net and taking a few courses in it in school.
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namealreadytaken wrote:

a claim by a single researcher should be taken with a grain of salt.


You posted the results of a single study, I posted the results of a single study - both are about the same thing: there's too many studies in scientific journals that aren't reproducible. Physics doesn't really have this problem, but psychology and medicine do.
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Haruna-kai wrote:


namealreadytaken wrote:

scientists already confirmed that the psychology research published in scientific journals are flawed.
(as per link posted in my previous post)


Sigh, definitely Sunday...

1. Science doesn't know everything and is flawed in itself.
2. I dont care if its flawed, it makes no difference to me.
3. My point was you dont become an expert by reading a few articles on the net and taking a few courses in it in school.


1. https://xkcd.com/263/ . on a serious note, math is the most rigorous science and is as rigorous as it can be.
2. there was a case in which one researcher claimed that vaccine could pose a health risk. the claim was later refuted, but many people refused to vaccine their kids, resulting in an increase in diseases thought to be eradicated. this is just one example though.
3. you don't need to be an expert to question the validity of supposedly scentific research. the pilar of any science is to always question everything. just because someone has a phd or a master at harvard, that doesn't mean that his research is necessarily valid - there's a chance for errors during the research, bias sampling, etc.
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