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First off, don't get me wrong and start hitting me with negative comments if your a fan of this anime, second off, i have my reasons, try to understand

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SCHOOL-LIVE's first episode was undoubtedly great, shocking, and a great set up, but after a couple of episodes, my question that started on episode 3 couldn't hold it any longer, "Why are they keeping Yuki delusional and crazy?". I'm not exactly saying they need to just throw her off and kill her, no that's not it, what i want them to do is to make her face reality, why? because Yuki risks their lives further than it already is and its not smart at all, so i thought about this and wondered, there must be a reason, then i figured it out, without delusional Yuki, this anime would be dull, it would only turn into a bunch of schoolgirls surviving in a school in a zombie apocalypse, but with delusional Yuki, there can be genius set-up plots such as everything being a delusion for example. episode 1. But then i realized, its stupid to keep her delusional , but she's needed for a good story, meaning its a terrible plot. The fact that it's stupid to keep her delusional and the fact that she has to stay like that for the good of the anime, is a bad thing, the 2 facts contradict each other and what does it create? a terrible plot.

But after all, this is all just my opinion, i could be looking at it wrong, but im pretty sure i would need a decent reason of why they are keeping Yuki delusional, they are in a zombie apocalypse for fucks sake.

Someone please try to prove me wrong and make me understand, my way of thinking just makes this anime terrible for me.
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These wild conjectures.

if the anime is dull would it be good?

If the anime is not dull would it be bad?
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Gin-To-Ki wrote:

First off, don't get me wrong and start hitting me with negative comments if your a fan of this anime, second off, i have my reasons, try to understand

SPOILERS

SCHOOL-LIVE's first episode was undoubtedly great, shocking, and a great set up, but after a couple of episodes, my question that started on episode 3 couldn't hold it any longer, "Why are they keeping Yuki delusional and crazy?". I'm not exactly saying they need to just throw her off and kill her, no that's not it, what i want them to do is to make her face reality, why? because Yuki risks their lives further than it already is and its not smart at all, so i thought about this and wondered, there must be a reason, then i figured it out, without delusional Yuki, this anime would be dull, it would only turn into a bunch of schoolgirls surviving in a school in a zombie apocalypse, but with delusional Yuki, there can be genius set-up plots such as everything being a delusion for example. episode 1. But then i realized, its stupid to keep her delusional , but she's needed for a good story, meaning its a terrible plot. The fact that it's stupid to keep her delusional and the fact that she has to stay like that for the good of the anime, is a bad thing, the 2 facts contradict each other and what does it create? a terrible plot.

But after all, this is all just my opinion, i could be looking at it wrong, but im pretty sure i would need a decent reason of why they are keeping Yuki delusional, they are in a zombie apocalypse for fucks sake.

Someone please try to prove me wrong and make me understand, my way of thinking just makes this anime terrible for me.


Bro, did you even watch all the episodes so far?

Because they already explained why.


P.S. How can you think the plot is terrible?

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The answer is simple. Delusional or not Yuki is a real live human and not a zombie. We (they) need to keep all the living humans alive as they can. But with no boys it's all academic anyways. And with a small gene pool anyways . . .it's still probably all academic anyways. Besides they said in the show Yuki does the right thing to keep THEM sane and rescue Nikki, etc.
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I agree that the plot isn't good, but there is many other things they do foolishly in this zombie situation. They stated that Yuki staying that way was to keep stability within the group. I think that makes for entertaining moments in the story, but is it a "smart" thing to do? Not really.
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There are several reasons why no one is trying to snap Yuki out of it. First of all, they're not professionals. They don't know how to carefully calm someone down when they're delusional. It's like trying to wake up a sleep walker. You'd be putting them in potential danger since you don't know how they'll react. Pretending everything is part of school is Yuki's coping mechanism. Telling her that everyone around her is dead could easily result in Yuki going insane and possibly try to kill herself.

There's also the fact that Yuri and Kurumi are using this to keep themselves sane as well. The whole reason Yuri and Megu-nee created the club was so that they wouldn't be as depressed. Yuki actually believes this club is legit, which makes her the most serious about having fun events. Miki saw it herself when she first met these girls. Yuki is the one keeping everyone else stable.

It's not like Yuki will easily put everyone in danger. Her brain still warns her that there are zombies around. When you see Megu-nee telling Yuki to keep quiet in the library, that was Yuki's subconscious appearing to her in the form of Megu-nee.

In the end, playing along with this fantasy is the safest thing to do not only for Yuki, but for everyone.
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Yuki Takeya is a hero............
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Gin-To-Ki wrote:
But after all, this is all just my opinion, i could be looking at it wrong, but im pretty sure i would need a decent reason of why they are keeping Yuki delusional, they are in a zombie apocalypse for fucks sake.

Someone please try to prove me wrong and make me understand, my way of thinking just makes this anime terrible for me.

Well, how about this?

If they forced her back to reality before she was mentally ready, she'd probably break down entirely and go insane. She's a bit of a pain the way she is now, but she can be managed? Imagine if they were trying to take care of her and she wasn't just delusional, but had experienced an actual psychotic breakdown. That would be ever harder on them, and probably more dangerous as well—as Yuki'd be harder to control through her naivety.

Also, I think the show's own explanation that Yuki's delusions make it easier for the rest of them to cope with their situation is a fine one, but it sounds like it doesn't work fo ryou.
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they are high school girls, not doctors. So it's understandable they don't want to make things worse off for themselves by trying to fix her.
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Yeah zombies and school girls dont mix.
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There are several reasons why no one is trying to snap Yuki out of it. First of all, they're not professionals. They don't know how to carefully calm someone down when they're delusional. It's like trying to wake up a sleep walker. You'd be putting them in potential danger since you don't know how they'll react. Pretending everything is part of school is Yuki's coping mechanism. Telling her that everyone around her is dead could easily result in Yuki going insane and possibly try to kill herself.

There's also the fact that Yuri and Kurumi are using this to keep themselves sane as well. The whole reason Yuri and Megu-nee created the club was so that they wouldn't be as depressed. Yuki actually believes this club is legit, which makes her the most serious about having fun events. Miki saw it herself when she first met these girls. Yuki is the one keeping everyone else stable.

It's not like Yuki will easily put everyone in danger. Her brain still warns her that there are zombies around. When you see Megu-nee telling Yuki to keep quiet in the library, that was Yuki's subconscious appearing to her in the form of Megu-nee.

In the end, playing along with this fantasy is the safest thing to do not only for Yuki, but for everyone.


That's actually legit, about the fact of what might she do when she gets out of her delusional state, now that i think of it, Yuki isn't that stable so she'll probably go crazy after looking at reality, never thought of that yet, thanks.

And the trippy thing you said about her subconsciousness about Megu-nee makes sense too, but its not 100% proven yet though
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Haruna-kai wrote:

Yeah zombies and school girls dont mix.


I agree a lot
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The plot is somewhat contrived.

But it's the premise of the show--including delusional Yuki--that I love. The narrative dissonance in this show makes it amazing, and Yuki is a massive part of that dissonance. Without this, School-Live would be one of two things: just another moe show, or just another zombie show. Does the fact that pretty much the entirety of a show's redeeming value rests on one particular aspect of it necessarily make it bad?

NO.
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I like the plot.
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Anime don't have to make much sense. For example, Akame ga Kill does not provide enough build-up or political discussion like Code Geass and just get to the action as quick as possible. The same with Aldnoah.zero with the Martian invading Earth.

There is also Prison School in this season, where logic is thrown out of the window.

I find Yuki's delusion pretty interesting. There are people who are indeed mentally fragile. Also, watch the entire series and you will see how that delusion helps. And it also looks like Yuki is finally snapping out and beginning to do something productive.

Tell me an example of a better plot this anime season. Charlotte? Overlord? Gate? Castletown Dandelion?

This is a bait thread which should not have existed. Put your thoughts in the discussion for the series. If I made a discussion complaining about Gangsta's awful animation or Rokka being slow as snail, people would no doubt join in. Have fun with people commenting on it. You just got a bunch of attention.
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