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Post Reply Is Cartoon Network better off now than it was during the mid 2000's?
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Posted 9/14/15 , edited 10/11/15
Upon reading various opinions regarding CN and it's downfall, I was surprised by how many people hated CN during 2004-06. I can sorta get behind this... aside from Ed Edd n' Eddy (though it did suffer minor seasonal rot), Billy and Mandy, Teen Titans, and Kids Next Door... all of which came out during the Powerhouse era, the other shows were fairly forgettable. Foster's Home was decent but also often mean-spirited and Bloo can be a total douchebag post-season 1, Ben 10 was.... well Ben 10, and Juniper Lee was a Jakelong ripoff. Sure, there was Toonami but it was moved to Saturday nights (a horrible timeslot) in order to appease bitchy Soccer Moms and was replaced with Miguzi (a poor replacement) plus Naruto evidently overshadowed the other shows on the block which became a bad thing when they started airing Filler Hell.

While CN now definitely pales in comparison to the Powerhouse era (The Golden age of CN), it's definitely better than it was during it's Dark ages (2007-2009). Sure Johnny Test was godawful, MAD was mediocre (and didn't live up the magazines), Problem SOLVERZ was a trainwreck, and TTG needs to go away but you have shows like Adventure Time, Regular Show, and Steven Universe that push the boundaries for what's acceptable for children's programming and can be enjoyed by adults. Gumball got off with a slow start but improved significantly by the second season, Clareance is strangely charming (the art style still bugs me though), and Uncle Grandpa is very... decisive. Toonami even returned for oldschool fans to enjoy at Saturday midnight and it even returned it's most popular show as the revived DBZ Kai.

What do you say? Is CN better nowadays or was it better during the mid-2000's?
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Posted 9/14/15 , edited 10/11/15
everytime i see the new teen titans


i cry
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Posted 9/14/15
I feel like you've spent a lot of time looking at Cartoon Network over the past few years and have had a lot of conversations with lots of different individuals. I'm not sure if your age under your avatar is showing accurately, but I will speak as though it is accurate.

The Cartoon Network I remember was 1998-2003. A lot has changed over the years, and a lot of it I can't even accurately speak about because it's all memory--and we all know how accurate memory can be (spoiler: it's not). In 1998 you had to have been around... 2 years old. I watched Dexter's Lab and 2 Stupid Dogs in the morning before school and after school if I was lucky I'd catch Sailor Moon and Dragon Ball Z followed by more Dexter's Lab, Johnny Bravo (you think that Steven Universe pushes the boundaries? Try sitting through Johnny Bravo which is sex joke after sex joke) and Animaniacs (also littered with sex jokes... Youtube "Finger *wink wink* Prince", which is a pun of "finger prints". Ah-hah! Though I doubt you know who Prince is...)

Toonami definitely got better in 1999--which, for me, is the Powerhouse Era. They had Sailor Moon, Reboot (which was AMAZING), Dragon Ball Z, Ronin Warriors. This was only the beginning. They were just getting started--testing the waters. From 2000 onward they had an awesome lineup that had me looking forward to running home and turning on the TV. I looked forward to DBZ, Tenchi Muyo!, Outlaw Star, Blue Submarine No. 6, Transformers and a bunch of others. I stopped watching it around 2003-2004, but I was around when they started showing Rurouni Kenshin and Samurai Jack.

And it got better! They had a Midnight Run! That meant if you missed your favorite show after school, if you found a way to stay up later you could just watch it starting from Midnight. Big O and a lot of other shows not normally shown during the after school time slot showed, so I tried to sneak and stay up for that. You were about 7 years of age for that time period.

I never got into Ed Edd and Eddie. And a lot of the shows you mentioned for the "Dark Ages" definitely wasn't something I watched between 2007-2009. You didn't have to watch the atrocity that was Tom Goes To The Mayor--consider yourself lucky. But I was all about Aqua Teen Hunger Force. :)

I think that the route CN is going now is fine. I am 100% on board with Steven Universe. CN used to censor a lot, so to see them allowing some of the themes in Steven Universe is really wonderful. You should look up some of the censoring CN had done in the past and be happy that its moving in the right direction. :)

So I guess what I'm saying is I liked my 1998-2003 (and somewhat 2004) run. It's nostalgic and I'm biased.
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Posted 9/14/15
Naw. I miss the old Teen Titans, man.
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Posted 9/14/15
Probably
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Posted 9/15/15

Gyava wrote:

everytime i see the new teen titans


i cry


I agree
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Posted 9/16/15 , edited 9/16/15
I like Adventure Time but the fanbase can be crazy if you're not a full on fan I like Steven Universe and the Regular Show but the one I like the most at this point is Gumball because it just captures me and I can relate to having a family like that. I still show love for Ed, Edd N' Eddy, Kids Next Door, Billy and Mandy and Courage The Cowardly Dog.
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Posted 9/17/15
When Teen Titans was switched with Teen Titans Go..... thats when I new......
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Posted 9/17/15
nah the mid 2000s was better. mainly Adult Swim kicked ass. when I think about it ive never been a CN guy but these days its nonexistent. its like MTV
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Posted 9/22/15
cartoon network sucks.

it was grest bsck in the 90s and early 2000s. i don't know what happened to the channel. in fact it was cartoon network that got me started in anime. it was on cartoon network where i first saw SPIRIT AWAY, my most favorite movie.
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Posted 9/22/15
I though CN was pretty good during the city era.
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Posted 9/22/15
I just saw they were bring back Scooby Doo. From what it looks like it going to be Teen Titans Go...
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Posted 9/22/15 , edited 9/22/15
I liked the mid 2000s of CN, it brings back so many memories. My brother and sister and I would always watch it together. My favorites were Totally Spies, Code Lyoko, Power Puff Girls, Teen Titans, and of course Pokemon.
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Posted 10/2/15 , edited 10/7/15
Some of the new shows like Adventure Time and Regular Show are good but for me they will never be as good as Ed Edd N' Eddy, Cow And Chicken, Courage The Cowardly Dog. and Dexter's Laboratory.
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Posted 10/2/15
It's all perception, i grew up with old school Cartoon Network and I can easily say, I liked both. Sure, I miss Samurai Jack and Dexter's Laboratory but I like the Gumball show and We Bare Bears.

I think the whole "desire for retro" thing is just a process of getting older because Cow and Chicken would be considered SUPER vulgar now and a lot of the old stuff really ran their course.

I mean, you have to remember, some shows out there would deteriorate over time and we, the fans, will find something to complain about if a show starts to go on for too long.

Cartoon Network isn't bad, it's just changing and some of it we can't agree with.

Personally, I'm not a super fan of Titans Go but I can honestly say that it's pretty funny as a standalone series. I mean, I didn't like the actual Teen Titans simply because it didn't follow the comic book and then I found myself not liking the comic simply because of the process I call the "American Comic Retcon" (where American Comics really like to rape their canon).

all perception, some you'll dig, some you won't

sorry for the lengthy response but I've been seeing this a lot and I just figured I throw that in.
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