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Posted 9/18/15

BlueOni wrote:


CKD-Anime wrote:

The better question is:

Why is no one adapting all my Yuri VN's into anime/hentai?


Your sorrow is the same as my sorrow.


It is the forgotten genre.

We get like 4-5 Yaoi/BL adaptations every season, but yet no Yuri is thrown our way.

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We get like 4-5 Yaoi/BL adaptations every season, but yet no Yuri is thrown our way.



You are making one big mistake too many people make. The counterpart to Yuri is Bara. Yaoi is an extention of the shoujo demographic where the heroine happens to have a penis too.
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No it's pointless to do that. Don't remove the scenes to begin with just tone them down. I mean even series like Green Green and Yosuga no Sora were able to do it.
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a good portion of harem shows are adaptations of visual novels, I think that broadcast stations are only willing to put up the money if they are not sexually explicit and can be shown to a wider audience thus they omit those scenes. I can only think of a few adaptations that had a love scene or two that were fairly tame but not hentai like rumbling hearts and white album 2

i think Princess Lover is the only VN that i've seen get both an anime and a hentai adaptation.


There was a Mahou Shoujo one. I actually saw the TV series of it first so I was surprised to find out that it was actually a readaptation of an erotic OVA series.

It was called Magical Kanan. It was about this magician who gets turned into a mascot stuffed animal and sent to earth. He finds a girl and makes her into a magical girl. They fight things. It's been a long time since I have seen it.

I do remember though that in the erotic version, it's primarily him having sex with girls in his human form, in VN fashion. If I remember correctly, if he gets a kiss in stuffed animal form, it transforms the girl into a magical girl and him temporarily back into his wizard form.


well i'm curious, i'll have to check it out later lol.

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On one hand I can see your point and have sympathy with your position. (2d women don't do much for me to be honest.) But on the other hand I can see where COST FACTORS
would make that if not impossible, but very difficult to carry out. It would be simpler to make a better rating system and, for games, an option to turn off sexual content. One other factor that makes this a difficult item is cultural differences. What is okay in one country might not be another. For example Japan does not have the breast taboo like the US does.

You have boiled down the extremely complicated, utterly silly, and horribly over used economic excuse used by a great many American's into the words "Cost Factors"


For some reason, America is obsessed with money, and will totally forgive a company when they say they can't do something "because it costs too much"

Instead of say, bitching out poor quality for being poor quality.
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Gafennec wrote:

On one hand I can see your point and have sympathy with your position. (2d women don't do much for me to be honest.) But on the other hand I can see where COST FACTORS would make that if not impossible, but very difficult to carry out. It would be simpler to make a better rating system and, for games, an option to turn off sexual content. One other factor that makes this a difficult item is cultural differences. What is okay in one country might not be another. For example Japan does not have the breast taboo like the US does.


You have boiled down the extremely complicated, utterly silly, and horribly over used economic excuse used by a great many American's into the words "Cost Factors"


For some reason, America is obsessed with money, and will totally forgive a company when they say they can't do something "because it costs too much"

Instead of say, bitching out poor quality for being poor quality.


No. I jut pointed out that economic realities are realities. Quality control is something completely different. I do not accept shoddy product no matter what the price. Beside value is relative and not absolute.
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Wait what?
Do you want sex scenes or do you not want sex scenes? Don't some VN's give you the option to turn them on or off?


Are the sex scenes out of place? I remember playing through Muv-Luv, where throughout a massive trilogy of games, a single sex scene was warranted. Just 1. Everything else was probably written in the script as "Random Sex scene here" With any random excuse thrown in. like "Oh these two had a very emotionally charge afternoon trying to convince the school board to not expel someone! Lets have sex on the desk!" or "It's the end of the first game! Lets have the girl marry some faceless guy, only for the hero to save her,. marry her, then take her in a cardinal fashion while still dressed in her wedding gown because IT'S THE END AND WE NEED AN H SCENE!"


Then we have the Anime Kimi ga Nozomu Eien(or Rumbling Hearts if you've seen the English Version OR was bombarded with commercials of it for years like I was)
Same creators of Muv-Luv, it's their older VN actually, taking place in the same universe as Muv Luv...for some reason.
It's about some guy who got a girlfriend, then that girl was hit by a truck and became Coma-bitch, and then he split off into a relationship with her best friend back-stabby bitch.

It's complicated....but the sex scenes...while they're not specifically shown, they play a role within the story. Used as a way of showing the current status of the relationship between the Protagonist and Ms. Backstab.
Did she say no tonight? She's not happy with him! Did she instigate it? He did something right..maybe...I don't know.


Look, it's not the best show I've ever seen...but it used those H Scenes within the plot in a way that the Anime couldn't omit them. Rather than showing the scenes happen, it showed the beginning and end. Because the scene itself is important.



If the Vn you're watching has random sex scenes that don't factor anything into the plot.....

It's entirely pointless, so skip the scene.
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CKD-Anime wrote:

We get like 4-5 Yaoi/BL adaptations every season, but yet no Yuri is thrown our way.



You are making one big mistake too many people make. The counterpart to Yuri is Bara. Yaoi is an extention of the shoujo demographic where the heroine happens to have a penis too.


It's all the same to me.

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Many, though not all, visual novels get re-released to other platforms with sex scenes removed. An example is Shuffle! which came out on Windows in 2004, and was released with sex scenes removed, although 2 new paths were included for classmate Mayumi and senpai Kareha. The game would be re-released (with sex scenes) several times on Windows, adding additional girls, and also release several sequels. This is one of many examples. A lot of VNs get all-ages adaptation ports.

Many, MANY anime are based on visual novels with sexual content: Fate/Stay night, Comic Party, Da Capo, Kanon, Princess Lover!, School Days, Yosuga no Sora, Green Green, Kohime Muso, Mashiroiro Symphony, Muv-Luv, Popotan, Tsukihime, Soul Link, Blessing of the Campanella. To Heart, Utawarerumono, Air, to name just a few. Of course, there are many other anime which are based off of non-adult games. Some of those, Claanad for example, might not have adult content, but a spinoff, Tomoyo After: It's a Wonderful Life, might have adult content...and then be ported without adult content.

Adult content and anime go hand-hand in Japan. Just look at Kantai Collection, the game that launched a thousand hentai doujinshi. You can even get doujinshi with hentai content from creators of projects. The force behind the Tenchi Muyo OVA series, Masaki Kajishima, puts out a regular doujin called Kamidake Onsen. It often includes character designs he's working on, but it can also contain stories, some of which would qualify as hentai, while others are all-ages stories, and others would get a "Mature" rating. For example, he had a story showing a high school age Sasami peeking on Tenchi making love to Noike, where she gets caught by her sister, Ayeka, whose attire suggests that Ayeka's already had her turn, or is waiting for her turn, with Tenchi. Sasami then goes off to masturbate in the woods, where she's discovered by young Kenchi, Tenchi's half-brother who'll grow up to be the hero of Tenchi Muyo! War on Geminar. It's played as a comedy, and would be considered soft porn. What's not is the story of Tenchi having sex with his soon to be step-mother, lol. In the PG-13 variety would be a story he did, without dialogue, showing how Ryoko and Ayeka's daughters fall in love with the first son of Seina Yamada from Tenchi Muyo! GXP. That story traces them from when they were still in the womb, through school, to adulthood.

It really does cost a lot of money for an anime to have both censored and uncensored versions to the extent that one is hentai and the other is not. keep in mind that there's so many hentai doujinshi, the Japanese don't need to go to such expense.
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Posted 9/18/15 , edited 9/18/15

CKD-Anime wrote:

It is the forgotten genre.

We get like 4-5 Yaoi/BL adaptations every season, but yet no Yuri is thrown our way.



There haven't even been that many BLs this year, let alone every season. Unless I've been missing them completely. And as for the not throwing yuri our way, there are two yuri series coming out next season (Yuru-Yuri and Valkyrie Drive) and can't forget about Yuri Kuma Arashi from earlier this year. As far as I'm concerned, we've had more yuri series than yaoi/BL.
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If I'm understanding the OP right (could be wrong) I'd go with what others have mentioned and is kinda how its done atm, which is to have OVA type extras rather than a full on series. I tend to think that if someone has to have the sex scenes they can go find the VN that has them, saves the anime company money + doesn't degrade their company image by attaching hentai to their company while also encouraging people to go to read the VN.
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PrinceJudar wrote:

Sex scenes are the best part! No.



This girl knows what's good.
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mailrus wrote:

Just a while back, I finally received my the visual novel "The Fruit Of Grisaia". I was intrigued by the first episodes of the anime and I thought it was perhaps more worth it to read the novel as it was originally intended. So I decided to become a backer to the kickstarter campaign and chosed the unrated version.

I'm currently playing through Amane's route and it's pretty heavy on the sex scenes. It's kind of uncomfortable since, I've now given up on porn but a thought did occur to me. What if visual novel were adapted both into anime and hentai? We would then have a anime version that would have passable ratings for day time television and then seperate hentai version that covers the sex scenes that were omitted. What is your thought on this?


I wouldn't mind the H-scenes being adapted into Anime. Although, if they do this, a lot of things would have to be considered. They would probably show it late at night or pack them in OVA's, which they did for the Grisaia specials. Also, Amane is best girl....and best route. ;D
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In VNs, there are several routes, so who the MC will do with? Having a School Days scenario?
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mailrus wrote:
I've now given up on porn


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