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The handcuffs and maybe the arrest might of been over the top, but I don't think the school acted out of line if they seriously suspected the item was a bomb. As for him being Muslim, I feel it is just the media hyping it up. It wasn't too long ago when another high school student was arrested for having an alarm clock go off in a locker. Oh and that student was a white female.

Maybe the teacher in question was being overly paranoid, but I think it is better to be safe than sorry. People aren't regularly exposed to explosives so you can't really fault them for mistaking the clock in question for a bomb.

The punishment might of been a bit severe with the suspension and all, but I still feel people are making a bigger deal out of the situation than they really need to. Yesterday I was reading an article about people that want the general public to acknowledge that Ahmed's parents came from Sudan and he should be identified as black instead of brown as Sudan is a part of Africa...
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I do wonder how many of you have seen a bomb before.



TV doesn't count, I imagine.


Wasn't that long ago we had to stop selling a model of tracfone here in the states because it was very easy to make into a remote trigging device.

Hell, look at the unibomber's un-complex bombs that look more like two year old playing with construction junk nailing cut-offs into toys with nails sticking out.



Bomb like this killed 3, wounded another 23.



Can't you pretty much make a bomb out of anything?

And if you did, why would you make it so obvious? Moreover why would a 14 year old kid make one?
Shits n giggles?

This is just stupidity all around like a 14 year old would actually make a terrorist bomb that looked like what most people perceive a bomb to look like?

No, if he were an actual terrorist he'd be sneakier than that, and moreover what if this is just all planned attention grabber to begin with.
Someone said his dad is a Muslim politician?
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I'm assuming they only arrested him cuz the thing was ticking.
Clocks are usually connected to bomb timers in certain bombs.
Not all of them may tick, tho.
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Can't you pretty much make a bomb out of anything?

And if you did, why would you make it so obvious? Moreover why would a 14 year old kid make one?
Shits n giggles?

This is just stupidity all around like a 14 year old would actually make a terrorist bomb that looked like what most people perceive a bomb to look like?

No, if he were an actual terrorist he'd be sneakier than that, and moreover what if this is just all planned attention grabber to begin with.
Someone said his dad is a Muslim politician?


Yea, you can make a bomb out of a lot of stuff. A very simple one can be made with gunpowder, a Ping-Pong ball, duct tape and a fuse. That can easily blow a bathtub sized hole in the ground. Really fun to do though! My parents made me fill in the holes though.

At my university a kid in Organic Chemistry accidently made a pressure bomb. She added acid to an organic compound and panicked. She put the lid back on and blew up the table in the room. I also remember my teacher telling me a story about one student accidently making nitroglycerin in class and blowing up a crucible.

If you have access to the illegal books (Anarchists Cookbook and Commandos Field Guide), it will tell you much more than you ever wanted to know on stuff of this type.

On topic, that kid is smart, but that is one sketchy looking clock. I could tell it was a clock because it was in the title, but if I just had to glance at it, I wouldn't have any idea what I was looking at.
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animegirl2222 wrote:


VZ68 wrote:


animegirl2222 wrote:


VZ68 wrote:

I do wonder how many of you have seen a bomb before.



TV doesn't count, I imagine.


Wasn't that long ago we had to stop selling a model of tracfone here in the states because it was very easy to make into a remote trigging device.

Hell, look at the unibomber's un-complex bombs that look more like two year old playing with construction junk nailing cut-offs into toys with nails sticking out.



Bomb like this killed 3, wounded another 23.



Can't you pretty much make a bomb out of anything?

And if you did, why would you make it so obvious? Moreover why would a 14 year old kid make one?
Shits n giggles?

This is just stupidity all around like a 14 year old would actually make a terrorist bomb that looked like what most people perceive a bomb to look like?

No, if he were an actual terrorist he'd be sneakier than that, and moreover what if this is just all planned attention grabber to begin with.
Someone said his dad is a Muslim politician?


Sadly, quite a few suicide bombers have been under the age or around the age of 14. McVey got caught because he tried to get the deposit back on the uhaul he used to blow up the OKC building.

But what's funny is that clock would, like most clocks, make a very nice trigger for a bomb, and by adding it to that case which was most likely a cheap case, would be able to house a couple of pounds of whatever flavor of explosive you like. It's a complete knee-jerk reaction that most people are pretty good at.

I mean it's like the people that call the AR-15 an assault weapon, or that all drugs are good or that all drugs are bad. Media is just going to get their 30 pieces of silver for making and pushing another story for no better reason than they want more hits and eyes on their ad revenue.
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http://www.abqjournal.com/20557/abqnewsseeker/updated-at-915am-hamlet-prop-prompted-la-cueva-lockdown.html

Yeah. Read this. My school. To everyone saying that this doesn't happen, think again. Especially with the consequences. I had SWAT and police pointing guns at my head after they broke down the door to my class. They threw flash bangs in other classes. People are making this such a big and polarizing thing...including the president. I'd hate to pull the race card, but if Luke had done this today and had been of color or some other minority, do you think he would've been invited to the WH? Probably.
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I'm assuming they only arrested him cuz the thing was ticking.
Clocks are usually connected to bomb timers in certain bombs.
Not all of them may tick, tho.


Not really because it was ticking. It would be more along the lines of bring an item that could be mistaken as a bomb onto school property. As for his age, there was the 15 yr old in Denmark that killed her mother after watching ISIS beheading videos the other day.

http://www.aol.com/article/2015/09/17/isis-inspired-teen-jailed-for-killing-mother-in-denmark/21237299/

Sure we all know the thing isn't a bomb now, but how many of you can glance at the homemade clock and not have the thought bomb enter your mind? Sure with a closer a look I can say it clearly isn't a bomb, but if I were to only get a glance at it over someone's shoulder, I can't say I could rule it out. The picture of the clock in question is on the first page.

I don't think it was wrong at all of the school to take action. If I was a teacher in that situation I would of at the very least confiscated the item and have him pick it up after school before more people get the wrong idea and cause a panic.
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Can't you pretty much make a bomb out of anything?

And if you did, why would you make it so obvious? Moreover why would a 14 year old kid make one?
Shits n giggles?

This is just stupidity all around like a 14 year old would actually make a terrorist bomb that looked like what most people perceive a bomb to look like?

No, if he were an actual terrorist he'd be sneakier than that, and moreover what if this is just all planned attention grabber to begin with.
Someone said his dad is a Muslim politician?


Yea, you can make a bomb out of a lot of stuff. A very simple one can be made with gunpowder, a Ping-Pong ball, duct tape and a fuse. That can easily blow a bathtub sized hole in the ground. Really fun to do though! My parents made me fill in the holes though.

At my university a kid in Organic Chemistry accidently made a pressure bomb. She added acid to an organic compound and panicked. She put the lid back on and blew up the table in the room. I also remember my teacher telling me a story about one student accidently making nitroglycerin in class and blowing up a crucible.

If you have access to the illegal books (Anarchists Cookbook and Commandos Field Guide), it will tell you much more than you ever wanted to know on stuff of this type.

On topic, that kid is smart, but that is one sketchy looking clock. I could tell it was a clock because it was in the title, but if I just had to glance at it, I wouldn't have any idea what I was looking at.


Nothing illegal about those books, wanna borrow my Poor Man's James Bond?

I accidentally created a chemical weapon in class one time. Let's just say when you add heat to a reaction that doesn't need it, you can clear a classroom fast. And my sinuses were clear for weeks after that!
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http://www.abqjournal.com/20557/abqnewsseeker/updated-at-915am-hamlet-prop-prompted-la-cueva-lockdown.html

Yeah. Read this. My school. To everyone saying that this doesn't happen, think again. Especially with the consequences. I had SWAT and police pointing guns at my head after they broke down the door to my class. They threw flash bangs in other classes. People are making this such a big and polarizing thing...including the president. I'd hate to pull the race card, but if Luke had done this today and had been of color or some other minority, do you think he would've been invited to the WH? Probably.


ABQ again?

Those guys are always up for shooting people, that's what you get when you hire rejects from El Paso police force.
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VZ68 wrote:


PruBenAzul wrote:

http://www.abqjournal.com/20557/abqnewsseeker/updated-at-915am-hamlet-prop-prompted-la-cueva-lockdown.html

Yeah. Read this. My school. To everyone saying that this doesn't happen, think again. Especially with the consequences. I had SWAT and police pointing guns at my head after they broke down the door to my class. They threw flash bangs in other classes. People are making this such a big and polarizing thing...including the president. I'd hate to pull the race card, but if Luke had done this today and had been of color or some other minority, do you think he would've been invited to the WH? Probably.


ABQ again?

Those guys are always up for shooting people, that's what you get when you hire rejects from El Paso police force.


LMFAO. Yeah, they need more training. And restraint. I'm really glad the justice department found them both guilty and incompetent. I'm all for the police and what they do. But ABQ was God awful. Horrid management. They need stricter standards for being an officer.
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PruBenAzul wrote:


VZ68 wrote:


PruBenAzul wrote:

http://www.abqjournal.com/20557/abqnewsseeker/updated-at-915am-hamlet-prop-prompted-la-cueva-lockdown.html

Yeah. Read this. My school. To everyone saying that this doesn't happen, think again. Especially with the consequences. I had SWAT and police pointing guns at my head after they broke down the door to my class. They threw flash bangs in other classes. People are making this such a big and polarizing thing...including the president. I'd hate to pull the race card, but if Luke had done this today and had been of color or some other minority, do you think he would've been invited to the WH? Probably.


ABQ again?

Those guys are always up for shooting people, that's what you get when you hire rejects from El Paso police force.


LMFAO. Yeah, they need more training. And restraint. I'm really glad the justice department found them both guilty and incompetent. I'm all for the police and what they do. But ABQ was God awful. Horrid management. They need stricter standards for being an officer.


They used to have billboards around El Paso begging people to be officers there.
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VZ68 wrote:


PruBenAzul wrote:


VZ68 wrote:


PruBenAzul wrote:

http://www.abqjournal.com/20557/abqnewsseeker/updated-at-915am-hamlet-prop-prompted-la-cueva-lockdown.html

Yeah. Read this. My school. To everyone saying that this doesn't happen, think again. Especially with the consequences. I had SWAT and police pointing guns at my head after they broke down the door to my class. They threw flash bangs in other classes. People are making this such a big and polarizing thing...including the president. I'd hate to pull the race card, but if Luke had done this today and had been of color or some other minority, do you think he would've been invited to the WH? Probably.


ABQ again?

Those guys are always up for shooting people, that's what you get when you hire rejects from El Paso police force.


LMFAO. Yeah, they need more training. And restraint. I'm really glad the justice department found them both guilty and incompetent. I'm all for the police and what they do. But ABQ was God awful. Horrid management. They need stricter standards for being an officer.


They used to have billboards around El Paso begging people to be officers there.


Wow. Yeah I remember a few back in ABQ too. I'm glad I escaped the land of entrapment. Everything is so corrupt and racist there. I only miss the food and the mountains....And a select few.
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This isn't the full story.

The boy was being passive-aggressive with authorities, and the clock was in a suitcase, that made a loud ticking noise. This wasn't some grandfather clock or a modern day alarm clock. His teacher told him to NOT take it to any of his other classes. Eyebrows were raised during his English class. Would you disobey your teacher too? I wouldn't.
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They didn't even call the bomb squad or evacuate the school


That right there is the big question.
Isn't the first thing you do when a bomb threat is on campus is evacuate the school?
They never seemed to do anything that you should do when you think there's a bomb that can endanger lives.

But hey, the kid is famous now, and the authorities at the school have shown themselves to be extremely incompetent.
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If they suspected it was a bomb, why didn't they evacuated the building?

Why did they place the bomb in a regular police car?

Why did the police interrogate the kid without his parents present, which is against the law.

Honestly?

This case is just another proof that the children are being treated as criminals.

Here's an interesting article about the whole situation:
http://www.everyjoe.com/2015/09/18/news/ahmed-mohamed-clock-bomb-bigger-than-race/#1
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