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Post Reply Rokka. Who did you think the fake was and why?
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So after watching all of the episodes except for the last one, I chose Nachetanya as the fake, and here's why:

Originally I suspected Hans because he would be best suited to sneaking in someplace and messing with the trap when Adlet had his back turned to look at that fiend, but he became the first one we could trust other than Flamie. Immediately my thoughts are that somehow the fog they saw wasn't really the barrier, but I didn't know how that could have happened until Adlet figured it out. Eventually it became clear that, from the evidence presented, whoever orchestrated the trap had to have a great deal of resources at their disposal to force one of the old Saints to take part in a conspiracy. That singles out Maura and Nachetanya for their status beyond being Braves. Neither of them seemed all that bad though. In either one's case, we needed to find a motive or some logic behind how they were involved with setting up the trap. Adlet said before that whoever set the trap had to have been informed that the barrier existed in the first place. That meant he, Flamie, Nachetanya, Goldov, and Maura were the only suspects. I reeeaaly didn't want Maura to be the false Brave because I think she's cool, even if she did try to kill Adlet. In the end though I couldn't think of a specific reason why she or the Princess could be the false, so I just chose the Princess because she's been acting weird for a while now. She'd already shown that she could act helpless and manipulate people to Adlet, and she attacked him with real weapons carelessly. Not to mention her outburst in the temple and the way she immediately jumped at the chance to try and kill Adlet when he supposedly betrayed them. Her behaviors have been far too inconsistent, and frankly I think she might be an actual psychopath (someone who has no actual emotions). She also seems like the type who would have run away from home just for kicks and not actually become a Brave. That said, I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't be said to see her leave. I'd be said to see any of them leave just because they were all so original to me. In the end, I chose Nachetanya as the fake.
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Posted 9/19/15 , edited 3/20/16
i looked at everything from a different perspective. my thought process was that what characters would the creator not be willing to kill off.
so here was the order of my list

1. Adlet - that's a given -
2. Flamie - she is unique there is only 1 fiend/human in the world, she is irreplaceable and obviously a key factor for the future of the show
3. Hans - most interesting funny coolest character, the show would be a duller place without him -
4. Nachetanya - i considered her the 2nd main character of the show -
5. Chamot - comic relief adds diversity -
6. Goldov - he and Nachetanya are a package deal that work nicely together i can also see her manipulating him adding depth to the show -
7. Maura - she may be the brains, but overall seems like a character that is dull and emotionless, her personality can be very one sided and thick headed making her aggravating and not easy to like, she will do anything to accomplish her goal no matter how extreme -

taking all of the above into account and combining it with the evidence the show gave here was my culprit.

Maura - i felt like she displayed the most evidence of being the traitor it always felt like her thought process and actions was that of the the enemies, she has the intelligence, experience and connections to execute a plan of that level. it seemed like the show could move on without her.
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here are the reasons i believed Nachetanya was innocent

Nachetanya - i felt she was the 2nd main character and Adlets only truly trust worthy friend that he could always rely on, usually anime always has that person i didn't expect for them to cut those ties. she was the only one who didn't attack him except at the end if she never attacked him at the end then that would show she never truly doubted Adlet establishing a trust between them that i thought would carry on to the next season. i believed that if she were the seventh she would only be a tool for someone higher up. there is no way for her to be smart enough to set up such an elaborate plan. the only two people with the connections and resources to pull of that plan are Nachetanya and Maura. however the 7th could be one of the others that was hired to cooperate. Hans has underground connections so if it wasn't them it would be him. Nachetanya has only done 4 things that would result in suspicion of being the culprit.
1. her awkward yet innocent yet maliciousness yet sneaky yet manipulative yet psychopathic yet unstable personality. the way i would look at her interact with others you can see a clean disconnect on a emotional level as if it was hard for her to read other people's emotions. and her own emotional responses seemed off i noticed all this from the beginning. example ep 2 she demonstrates her ability by attacking Adlet in a playfull but lethal way she has no hostile intent but doesn't understand that's something you shouldn't do. she asks Adlet if he was mad he basically replied kind of. she then fake cries with real tears, thats when Adlet tells her it was okay with sympathy, she then lifts her head and mocks him saying "did you think i was actually upset?" then laughs in a taunting manner. if you just look at her body language, facial expressions and most importantly her eyes you can see that there is something wrong with her. also what she is wearing no one else in the show has ever worn anything like that. a bunny costume to go fight fiends?

2. attacking Adlet this can be dismissed by #1 although this was very strange as if she found her perfect opportunity there was no skepticism or hesitation she also eagerly wanted to finish him off before he could talk. before goldov stepped in and stopped her if goldov was the 7th there would be no point in stopping her.

3. activating the barrier she activated the barrier by acting crazy swinging a sword and "accidentally" breaking a tablet which was the true activation of the barrier at the time there was no way of knowing that was the true activation. this can also be dismissed with #1

4. telling Adlet to run to the temple this always stuck with me thorough the show but it was never really hard evidence since that was there target location and they were being attacked by fiends. when watching this scene it felt so unnatural and forced that it was always in the back of my head when suspecting Nachetanya.

other than this i cant remember her doing anything suspicious she always supported Adlet which in reality was just to make her seem less suspicious so she could kill more in the long run. i think the number one reason i didn't suspect her was because if she sided with the demon god her kingdom would be destroyed and why would you want that. she talks about living in piece with them whether that's her true objective or not. the demon king wants to push humanity to extinction so there would be no peace. so is she foolish or is she an anarchist? or does the enemy have so sort of mind control? that would explain her instant snap. was she under mind control when she was confessing? and how did she use those fiend powers? but that's just pure speculation.
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so who is the new seventh?

is it Maura? or the new girl?

if the new girl is legit then you would have to look back and see who Nachetanya was working with my number one guess would be Goldov. Could one of them be a fake and not know it themselves? as if someone applied the crest after they were drugged? that's just more speculation tho.
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Posted 9/20/15
I found out in Episode 10(?).

Adlet was thinking that the fake had activated the barrier after they had entered the Temple and it showed a flashback of Nashetania thrusting the sword into the dial. So I found out a bit late.

I bet the new seventh is Goldov. The guy would be easily manipulated into the side of the Kyoumas because of his feelings for Nashetania.
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Mmm, I believe that the new seventh is Adlet Mayer. At the beginning of the show he was the one who was very close to the princess. So maybe he was made in a fake hero with out he knowing or ever realizing it. That will be a real twist!
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I honestly didn't know who it was at all, but at the end of one episode near the end Nachetanya asked Goldov to look at her mark to see if anyone had died (Which is still weird because if shes the fake then that mark must be fake too right?) and Goldov replied with something along the lines of "Everyone is alive" and Nachetanya said something like "That's good Adlet keep going" and from the way she was acting to me it was obvious she was the seventh. For me it was just instinct
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Posted 9/26/15
Nachetania since she just acts up super "randomly" and for the simple reason that her power was the only one that could reasonably fight against the other Braves aside from Chamot (who had the insanity card protecting her from being the 7th)
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I honestly couldn't figure it out. I just ended up making a top 3 picks, which was in order:

1. Maura
2. Nachetanya
3. Goldov.

I picked Maura because she just seemed so adamant to try and have people kill Adlet before he could convince people he was innocent. And when she lied about Hans, I really thought it was her, and came away from Nachetanya.

I thought it might have been Nachetanya because she seemed too convinced that Adlet wasn't it, so I thought maybe she was faking having one, because she wanted to leave the castle and go on a journey. I didn't expect her to be a flatout villain if she was the 7th. Though, I'm glad it was her, because I hated her from the very beginning of the anime.

I thought Goldov was an outside possibility because there was no depth to the character. He has nothing going for him as a character outside of being loyal to Nachetanya, so I figured he could fill out as being the guy who was the 7th, and maybe he was somehow flipped while away on his campaigns.

I never suspected any of the others. Chamot was too childish. Hans and Flamie were too obvious to be the pick. And we all saw Adlet get his mark on camera.
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Ever since he was introduced, his furiosity was so unreal and unmatched, that I just knew it had to be him, I was happy Episode 11 Confirmed It *HERE*, did not even need episode 12.
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Posted 9/26/15
Until Maura pulled her "Hans has been attacked" lie, I was certain it was Goldov. After that I just gave up.
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I suspected every one of them. I ate my hat when the characters all flipped out and jumped to conclusions after hearing Adlet's story. It was especially unbelievable considering they readily accepted the information they'd apparently just learned from Maura and, being the viewer, I was well aware that their suspicion of Adlet's story as well as their conclusion that he activated the barrier were dead wrong. Given the apparent fact that at least one of them had to have been planted for some inexplicably nefarious purpose, I decided that any information that came from just one or two people couldn't be trusted, so I even entertained the possibility that this seventh actor that was betraying them was all in their heads.

It seemed like the show was taking great pains not to reveal anything that might tip me off, and I wasn't even sure I could trust the author to come up with a mystery that made any sense. Therefore, as the show progressed, I decided to just let it play out without thinking too hard about it.

I must admit, I was very frustrated in the end to have learned that none of the characters besides Nachetanya knew how to activate the barrier. Many of them were confident in their knowledge of when and why the temple was built, the fact that the temple was constructed with only one entrance, the key that was needed to open the door, the guardians that attack when you force your way in, the fact that fiends can't enter the temple, and details about the powers of the saints who built it. Yet none of them knew how to activate the barrier or that instructions were left under the floor for goodness' sake. I could almost buy that the activation mechanism was a very closely guarded secret if they hadn't included an instruction manual on-site of all places. It's like leaving your key on top of the lock box.
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cay032692 wrote:

Ever since he was introduced, his furiosity was so unreal and unmatched, that I just knew it had to be him, I was happy Episode 11 Confirmed It *HERE*, did not even need episode 12.


What are you talking about?

Posted 9/27/15 , edited 9/27/15
I never suspected Chamot didn't even thought about chamot, too childish. Hans and Flamie were too obvious to be 1, and also we show Adlet get his mark.. and Nachetania I was thinking she might be the second main character in this anime but I did thought she was acting suspicious, going crazy like on the top and broke that tablet thing.. but I was always thinking a lot and I was like, this is just making me think it is her when is not, but surprisingly it was her.. I thought it was Goldov but yet not evil he just wanted to be by the princess but I guess my thinking was totally wrong.. but he could be the 7th next but again, I'm wondering who it is the seven

maybe is the childish 1 this time.. r not.. The reason why I think it might be childish cuz chamot is so straightforward didn't mind killing even if she didn't know who it was, for childish person is very suspicious to me or not...

=^-^= who knows who it be? Haa
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I thought they might go with someone as an "unknowing" seventh, because all the characters seemed to have suspicion intentionally cast on them either through dialog or scene changes/art direction. If it's everyone it's no-one sort of thing. Pretty much anyone could have ended up being the one depending on the last episode. There could easily be any number of "alternate ending" OVAs.

Even more unexpected was the laugh at the end. "Let's just do this again!"
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Posted 9/27/15
You know, Nashetania's ending song pretty much gave away the fact that she was the fake. It's called Dance in the Fake, after all...

I'm surprised this went unnoticed for so long.
Posted 9/28/15
It was between Maura and Nachetanya for me, prioritizing Maura above Nachetanya. Everybody else I didn't suspect at all.

Reasons for suspecting Maura:
-She's the most experienced out of the 7.
-She was always the one asking the questions and leading the group by her commands.
-She accused Adlet, Hans, and Flamie whenever she got the chance, without any real or rational evidence.
-Chamot defended her a lot. Didn't really care too much about that, but it just peaked my suspicion.
-And of course, around the end when she totally screwed and lied over Adlet by saying Hans was severely wounded and accusing Adlet for it.

Reasons for suspecting Nachetanya:
-Her "defenseless" personality and behaviors in general.
-Her weird, psychotic, random spazams.
-The way that she fought in her first fight with Adlet. She said that it was her first real fight, yet it looked like she's done it a thousand times.
-The way she clinged to Adlet too much, acting as if she's the "Damsel in distress" archetype. Again something small that I just looked at strangely.
-Most importantly, she was the quietest person at the meetings in the temple. The only time she really talked was when she defended Adlet.

Now, it would be wise and obvious to suspect Hans as well. But...He's my favorite character and I was just in denial of him not being the seventh. Chamot's wasn't smart enough and really impatient to me for to keep that secret hidden for so long. Flamie was just too obvious. I was only suspicious of Goldov because of how quiet he was.

P.S. Rolanda or whatever her name is needs to begone from existence. I am not looking forward to the Saint of Blood be a cow lady. That's all! :D
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