Post Reply Every quirk in personality can be explained by a mental disorder
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Posted 9/19/15
I've been reading the DSM-5 just for kicks and have realized that psychiatrists and psychologists have come up with a disorder for pretty much everything. Everything from rule breaking to bullying and stealing to transgender can apparently be explained by a mental disorder.

Rule breaking, bullying and dare I say internet trolling all fall under Conduct Disorder

Transgender falls under a personality disorder and gender dysphoria.

Name a quirk that you have and I can find a mental disorder for it.

I realize that many mental disorders are real (I have generalized anxiety disorder and depression) but some I think are just excuses to give people medication (eg - every kid has ADHD).

Thoughts on this? Are we as a society over medicated and over treated for disorders that have no merit?
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Posted 9/19/15
Ohhh you~
Well I'm perverted, clever,foolish, humorous, have an occasional blood lust, I copy personalities, I'm carefree, I'm awkward, I enjoy messing with people, I lie.
Ect ect ect :P
Honestly though, giving a mental disorder for everything is kind of stupid, I find transgender an amusing one.
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Posted 9/19/15
Casually leafing through the DSM one could get that impression. The thing to remember, however, is that those are diagnostic guidelines intended to be used by clinical professionals with about a decade of training under their belts between undergrad and professional school. They're not reading those criteria the same way as someone who has no psychiatric training whatsoever, and the people who are writing those criteria aren't doing so for a general audience. For example, you've read the diagnostic criteria for gender dysphoria as indicating that transgender identities are themselves representative of a mental disorder. This is not the APA's position on the matter, and it's not how the diagnosis is supposed to be applied.

Now, that's not to say that diagnoses aren't ever handed out too liberally (or not liberally enough if you could believe it) for whatever reason, but clinical professionals aren't just making up disorders on the fly.
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Posted 9/19/15

BlueOni wrote:

Casually leafing through the DSM one could get that impression. The thing to remember, however, is that those are diagnostic guidelines intended to be used by clinical professionals with about a decade of training under their belts between undergrad and professional school. They're not reading those criteria the same way as someone who has no psychiatric training whatsoever, and the people who are writing those criteria aren't doing so for a general audience. For example, you've read the diagnostic criteria for gender dysphoria as indicating that transgender identities are themselves representative of a mental disorder. This is not the APA's position on the matter, and it's not how the diagnosis is supposed to be applied.

Now, that's not to say that diagnoses aren't ever handed out too liberally (or not liberally enough if you could believe it) for whatever reason, but clinical professionals aren't just making up disorders on the fly.


Well I see everything as a joke so even your serious reply is amusing to me :3
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KittyLordMeowMeows wrote:

Well I see everything as a joke so even your serious reply is amusing to me :3


At least you're having fun, I suppose.
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BlueOni wrote:


KittyLordMeowMeows wrote:

Well I see everything as a joke so even your serious reply is amusing to me :3


At least you're having fun, I suppose.


Seeing everything as a joke makes life so much more fun, insults become especially hilarious.
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Posted 9/19/15
I've always thought about how almost everybody I know at school seems to vaguely fit within a lot of guidelines for autism. More of a thing where our society/environment can condition us in certain ways, which I notice especially in my area just from contact.
Personally, my track record for deadlines would have you believe something is up with conduct disorder as well. I blame the internet- and in more ways than one. Granted, my deepest knowledge of DSM is the psychosomatic medicine anime.
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I think so. Most of these behaviours don't merit being classified as a "disorder". People just like coming up with terms for things. The recent explosion in terminology for things like sexual orientation and gender identity comes from the same impulse. The danger with this particular circumstance, though, is that people are getting medicated for things that (my opinion here) they don't need "fixed". In many cases, these "problems" will sort themselves out naturally as people experience more things and develop their worldview, and they'll do so far more organically. I think it's unethical to try and tamper with someone's personality - and that's what it is - because it doesn't conform with what's normal. Hell, I'd wager you'd be much harder-pressed to find someone who exhibits only normal behaviour. We're not all the same, and we shouldn't try to be.

Unfortunately, the people experimenting in this field are tackling some really dense material, though. You can't keep getting funding without showing off some results, so while I don't agree with all these classifications, they're a part of what's keeping money flowing into research on a topic that could be immeasurably helpful and interesting once it really gets rolling. My stance is still very much against our over-diagnostic and over-medicated way of doing things, but I recognize that that construct does serve a purpose.
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Posted 9/19/15
Is there a disorder for believing in lies?

I want to see that happen.
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The point is that you have to have to fit a multitude of those qualifications and have them explicitly in order to be qualified with certain disorders. Usually… not mildly. A mental disorder is really just a bunch of maladaptive receptors and stuff in your brain that cause you to behave in a way that most other people don't. Also, the DSM to an outsider is gonna seem silly. DSM to a psychologist is much different. They've been mostly educated on what these traits look like.

I dunno. That's what I say as a non psychologist.
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What makes a mental disorder is the extent of the disruption the subject experiences, not the symptom profile by itself. Some symptoms like the delusions, hallucinations, cognitive deficits, and paranoia which appear in schizophrenia are pretty much inherently disruptive. Others, such as being afraid of spiders, are only really representative of a problem requiring treatment if they are severe enough to cause a disruption in daily functioning or one's quality of life. This is the distinction between merely being afraid of something and having a phobia.
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Yeah, they got rid of the GAF and replaced it with something else......
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I hate it.

I hate it so much.

Why in the world would anyone want to be classified with a mental disorder? Why would you seek out a doctor for them to tell you that you have something wrong and that some miracle pill can be prescribed to fix it? That never made any sense to me.

Even for some of the newer anxiety disorders that have become so popular nowadays. Why would someone welcome the idea of becoming dependent on medication for the rest of their life rather than dealing with it the hard way and facing the facts.

I have anxiety, bad anxiety, the kind that brings on panic attacks in public places if i am just too uncomfortable. It sucks to deal with it, and i really wish i didn't have to, but the truth is i'm going to be surrounded by people and confronted with situations that will put me at my wits end for the rest of my life. There's no way i'm going to get around it, so i might as well try and get used to it, find better ways to deal with, put myself out there until i become numb to that anxiety and maybe it won't stay a problem forever. In the end, i have nobody to rely on but myself to deal with my personal problems, and i have to be able to find solutions to these problems because that's the only way they'll ever truly be solved.
The world will never cater to you specifically, you have to make it comfortable for yourself to live your own life. The world keeps turning and your life will continue to move forward, even if you insist on standing still

Sorry if this seemed blunt, but this whole subject puts me on edge. I really dislike the term 'mental disorder'
Posted 9/19/15
As someone who's been diagnosed with EUPD I can tell you that the DSM, ICD and wikipedia does not offer any accurate information on my diagnosis.
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