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Because I made sure no one forget the history of great Rome! Plus I'm last remaining of true Roman, I came from that era the great Empire Rome!

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JanusCascade wrote:

Because I made sure no one forget the history of great Rome! Plus I'm last remaining of true Roman, I came from that era the great Empire Rome!

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Is that new movie that haven't come out? Or is it old?
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Human progress has been is in many many ways an exercise in ever greater centralization. We go from tribes, to communities, to multi-community states, to empires. Many nations today could be empires in a previous era, even putting aside whether say a certain global hegemon is or is not effectively not an empire. Or other great powers in the world.

Expansion of the state into larger forms largely brings about many many benefits. Trade, greater capacity for public works, trade, development of culture, trade, and heck even multiculturalism. Concepts as vital to the modern world as "rule of law" were pioneered by the Romans, Muslims, and Mongols well before johnny-come-lately Europe. Who very arguably only pulled ahead ethically fairly recently in history, even supposing you agree they have any moral authority today.

And lets consider how concepts like "independence" are used as a rhetorical shield against unethical practices. I point you to well... all the rhetoric used by those that would become the Confederacy in the lead up to the USA's civil war. Oh and is STILL used to fend off those dirty tyrants in DC from imposing say same-sex marriage here in our community.

Viva la conquest! Hail the empire! Forward the march of progress for all mankind!
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JanusCascade wrote:


Dariamus wrote:


JanusCascade wrote:

Because I made sure no one forget the history of great Rome! Plus I'm last remaining of true Roman, I came from that era the great Empire Rome!

Marcus Octavius






Is that new movie that haven't come out? Or is it old?


It's Dr. Who. Character of Rory.

To the OP:

I think upon retrospect, it may appear as though ancient cultures are "revered" after they've fallen, but you're missing bits.

The franks were under roman occupation. So were the germanic tribes. And the british isles.

And a kingdom doesn't exactly "fall" overnight. Typically it's a slow decay that leads up to the final collapse. (look at the former soviet union...)

The franks, the germans, etc. all probably took and borrowed bits from the romans because they had better technology. And linguistically, latin probably had some wide spread adoption, making it the lingua franca of the time for many nations (now there's a good pun. :P) in addition to their own home languages. It wasn't a concerted effort to adopt latin into their own language. it just happened. Much like english is doing because of the US today. (plus, back to that tech bit for a second. After the formation of the US, a lot of countries had since modeled their governments after ours, even before we were the powerhouse we recently were. Even FDR's policies which were based of keynsian economics, worked incredibly well at stabilizing and fixing a broken economy after WWI. )

It's only really historians that revere and worship ancient cultures, though, nationalistic nostalgia nationalistic nostalgia is a different beast entirely. This typically happens either during a state of decay, (as is in the US with its obsession with returning back to simply the constitution, which, may have worked 250 years ago, certainly has little in the way of understandinf maneuvering through today's world) or after a terrible economic blow/loss (as with Germany during WWII, or current muslim fantaticism), or, in the time after a collapse while most of the regions are still suffering some sense of diaspora, and seek to the past greatness rather than the bleak present conditions for them, (like the odd phenomenon of Putin having such popularity amongst the youth in former USSR countries)

But I think in general, the concept is just framed wrong by the OP.
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I'll give the ancient Chinese two thumbs up, they at least drilled for natural gas using bamboo when the Romans could have had the steam engine in the same time period. The Romans tossed the steam engine (Aeolipile) aside because they thought it as a novelty item. An Aeolipile attached to a Archimedes' screw would have been a great upgrade for the trireme.
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just cuz u dont like nor appreciate history doesnt mean others think the same

history is very important whether you like it not
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They lasted a lot longer than their lives. Humans love eternal lives.
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Is that new movie that haven't come out? Or is it old?

It's Dr. Who. Character of Rory.


Had to deleted some of the line to prevent unwanted spam (Multiple Copies of same posts) heh XD. Only leave out the recent post.

Anyway back to the post, I tried to watch Dr. Who few time.. Never went past Episode 2 or 3. XD There lot of series I like.. but this one doesn't take for me! :/
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Excellent responses guys, very rational and understanding, thanks a lot!!
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I love Rome. It's kind of a heritage thing. I honestly just like history though so, it could be that.
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We derive our way of life from them. Things like democracy, free health care etc were ideas by ancient people from those civilisations.

Modern ideas like communism for example are complete failure... I can't believe there are people who still think this is a good idea and that it'll work in an "ideal" society..
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Atlantis XD
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Cause they cool.
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