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I do like my 3-5 minute shows. Thank you for always picking up the mini gems.
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Too many people expecting licenses that have a very slim chance of being licensed by CR (One Punch Man and Owari no Seraph S2).
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I am just F***ng Astonished at the amount of CRAP that CR has "provided" us for this season. WOW, really disappointed!


I'm astonished you're complaining when the announcements are just beginning. Let's put aside the fact that this is a weak season overall with very limited selections. I'll tell you now that 'One Punch Man', 'Noragami S2', 'Owari no Seraph S2', 'Garo S2', 'Aria S2', and 'K S2' will very likely not be picked up.

There's 60 shows this season (including shorts), and CR already has 17 titles (which I included sequels CR has a very good chance to get such as Haikyuu S2 and Testament of the Devil Sister S2). That's also including 'Asterisk War' and 'Perfect Insider' (already announced) as well as Aniplex/Sentai works very likely to be picked up such as 'Comet Lucifer' and 'Failed Knight'.

So I'd say they're doing a pretty good job thus far so early on. More announcements will come, but don't expect something like One Punch Man or any of the others mentioned above, because that's Viz/Funimation territory (if you're in America). If you're talking about it outside the US with region-locked shows, then I know where you're coming from.
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You guys have YuruYuri Season 3 right? .....right!?
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cedorantes wrote:

I am just F***ng Astonished at the amount of CRAP that CR has "provided" us for this season. WOW, really disappointed!


I'm astonished you're complaining when the announcements are just beginning. Let's put aside the fact that this is a weak season overall with very limited selections. I'll tell you now that 'One Punch Man', 'Noragami S2', 'Owari no Seraph S2', 'Garo S2', 'Aria S2', and 'K S2' will very likely not be picked up.

There's 60 shows this season (including shorts), and CR already has 17 titles (which I included sequels CR has a very good chance to get such as Haikyuu S2 and Testament of the Devil Sister S2). That's also including 'Asterisk War' and 'Perfect Insider' (already announced) as well as Aniplex/Sentai works very likely to be picked up such as 'Comet Lucifer' and 'Failed Knight'.

So I'd say they're doing a pretty good job thus far so early on. More announcements will come, but don't expect something like One Punch Man or any of the others mentioned above, because that's Viz/Funimation territory (if you're in America). If you're talking about it outside the US with region-locked shows, then I know where you're coming from.


To be frank, however, I can't see how exactly can CR manage to keep up its game if things go like this. It seems to me as of late they have simply given up on the large market of big-name titles and simply have gone down the road of focusing mostly on resident LN adaptations and other sleazy/cheap stuff, and of focusing on the US. In other words, Funi is shaping the US market by taking over the big shows, and CR is digging its own niche next to it by picking up the leftovers, but that affects also us in Europe where most shows end up being region-locked AND we don't even have the option of watching Funimation. Why the hell every show picked up by Funi and streamed in the US has to be automatically locked for the rest of the world too is beyond me. But if tomorrow Funi suddenly started streaming in the UK, well, I think at this rate CR would lose my premium subscription really. When I joined it was the season of Attack on Titan - now getting THAT was a master stroke. That's exactly what I'm talking about: a few years ago CR could draw me in by picking up the super-hyped show of the season, and NOW we have to be resigned from the start at the idea that if a show is hyped it automatically means Funi will get it.
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That has to do with the actually legal side of the licensing the shows. Think of it as one large lottery, where the first one to call bingo wins. So far the list looks good, and there is the idea the idea that this the Fall and that means that there tends to be less shows compared to the winter or the summer.
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To be frank, however, I can't see how exactly can CR manage to keep up its game if things go like this. It seems to me as of late they have simply given up on the large market of big-name titles and simply have gone down the road of focusing mostly on resident LN adaptations and other sleazy/cheap stuff, and of focusing on the US. In other words, Funi is shaping the US market by taking over the big shows, and CR is digging its own niche next to it by picking up the leftovers, but that affects also us in Europe where most shows end up being region-locked AND we don't even have the option of watching Funimation. Why the hell every show picked up by Funi and streamed in the US has to be automatically locked for the rest of the world too is beyond me. But if tomorrow Funi suddenly started streaming in the UK, well, I think at this rate CR would lose my premium subscription really. When I joined it was the season of Attack on Titan - now getting THAT was a master stroke. That's exactly what I'm talking about: a few years ago CR could draw me in by picking up the super-hyped show of the season, and NOW we have to be resigned from the start at the idea that if a show is hyped it automatically means Funi will get it.


If you take a look back at the past 4-6 seasons, you'll see that CR has actually gotten a plethora of big-name anime. Attack on Titan (which you mentioned), Sword Art Online, Shokugeki no Soma, Fairy Tail, Hunter x Hunter, One Piece, Gintama, etc etc. I'm not exactly sure what big-name titles or large markets you are thinking of (maybe you can clarify since that's pretty subjective). CR still manages to get 60-70% of new anime titles every season, so I wouldn't say that Funimation is shaping the US market as much as you're thinking. They do get some pretty good ones here and there, but they actually tend to lean towards more sleazy shows than CR (because of merchandising and potential DVD sales of those ecchi/sleazy shows) - Prison School for example (given, this was more than a generic ecchi series, but it's still very fanservicey). I mean, if you look at last season, the only worthy titles Funimation got (in my opinion) were: Gangsta (which I heard progressively got worse), Shimoneta (crazy NSFW comedy, but can live without it), Overlord, and Prison School...going beyond that, they got Arslan, Blood Battlefront Blockade, Snow White with the Red Hair, and...that's about it. If you compare the amount of variety and volume, CR absolutely beats Funimation.

If you're talking about One Punch Man, it was actually Viz, not Funimation, that licensed it. And since they don't go after many titles every season, they spend a lot of their resources to get 1 or 2 good ones...but that doesn't always happen. For me, I'd rather have 10-20 different shows to choose from than a single show I may or may not like.

I won't pretend to know the licensing situation in Europe...CR does get certain titles in non-US/NA regions, but that doesn't happen too often. I don't think Funimation having a license for NA affects Europe either (though if someone knows better than me, feel free to correct me). I definitely feel for the European and other regions that don't get as many titles as we do in North America. There's probably a licensing company for the EU or certain countries, but they probably aren't as big or resourceful as CR or Funimation...so it might take some research to find them.
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You guys have YuruYuri Season 3 right? .....right!? :(

There is very little reason to fear. It premieres on the 4th, so unless CR does weekend announcements (rare unless they are at a convention), it will probably be announced before the weekend.

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To be frank, however, I can't see how exactly can CR manage to keep up its game if things go like this. It seems to me as of late they have simply given up on the large market of big-name titles and simply have gone down the road of focusing mostly on resident LN adaptations and other sleazy/cheap stuff, and of focusing on the US. In other words, Funi is shaping the US market by taking over the big shows, and CR is digging its own niche next to it by picking up the leftovers, but that affects also us in Europe where most shows end up being region-locked AND we don't even have the option of watching Funimation. Why the hell every show picked up by Funi and streamed in the US has to be automatically locked for the rest of the world too is beyond me. But if tomorrow Funi suddenly started streaming in the UK, well, I think at this rate CR would lose my premium subscription really. When I joined it was the season of Attack on Titan - now getting THAT was a master stroke. That's exactly what I'm talking about: a few years ago CR could draw me in by picking up the super-hyped show of the season, and NOW we have to be resigned from the start at the idea that if a show is hyped it automatically means Funi will get it.


If you take a look back at the past 4-6 seasons, you'll see that CR has actually gotten a plethora of big-name anime. Attack on Titan (which you mentioned), Sword Art Online, Shokugeki no Soma, Fairy Tail, Hunter x Hunter, One Piece, Gintama, etc etc. I'm not exactly sure what big-name titles or large markets you are thinking of (maybe you can clarify since that's pretty subjective). CR still manages to get 60-70% of new anime titles every season, so I wouldn't say that Funimation is shaping the US market as much as you're thinking. They do get some pretty good ones here and there, but they actually tend to lean towards more sleazy shows than CR (because of merchandising and potential DVD sales of those ecchi/sleazy shows) - Prison School for example (given, this was more than a generic ecchi series, but it's still very fanservicey). I mean, if you look at last season, the only worthy titles Funimation got (in my opinion) were: Gangsta (which I heard progressively got worse), Shimoneta (crazy NSFW comedy, but can live without it), Overlord, and Prison School...going beyond that, they got Arslan, Blood Battlefront Blockade, Snow White with the Red Hair, and...that's about it. If you compare the amount of variety and volume, CR absolutely beats Funimation.

If you're talking about One Punch Man, it was actually Viz, not Funimation, that licensed it. And since they don't go after many titles every season, they spend a lot of their resources to get 1 or 2 good ones...but that doesn't always happen. For me, I'd rather have 10-20 different shows to choose from than a single show I may or may not like.

I won't pretend to know the licensing situation in Europe...CR does get certain titles in non-US/NA regions, but that doesn't happen too often. I don't think Funimation having a license for NA affects Europe either (though if someone knows better than me, feel free to correct me). I definitely feel for the European and other regions that don't get as many titles as we do in North America. There's probably a licensing company for the EU or certain countries, but they probably aren't as big or resourceful as CR or Funimation...so it might take some research to find them.


What mostly happens in Europe is that if Viz or Funi get a show in the US, more often than not we don't get it anywhere. I don't know why, I don't know if it's due to some law/rule or simply something that coincidentally happens, but it's a pretty strong correlation at this point. Maybe they reserve the rights to distribute the DVDs later, maybe there are other agreements. There was a concurrent website that tried launching some time ago, All The Anime, that never took off (mostly due to crappy management, for example one of the first shows they streamed in the UK was Kill la Kill but they started delaying the release and then basically all but stopped mid-show) and quickly turned into a DVD-selling site. Now, for the UK, some big anime that are region-locked on CR are available on Netflix (TTGL, Kill la Kill, FMAB). Attack on Titan and HunterXHunter are currently available on both, increasing my confusion as to how the fuck is this licensing system supposed to work - I guess some publishers simply don't give out exclusive licenses.

For example this season we didn't get Shimoneta, Prison School, Overlord, and Gangsta, on anything that I know of. Dragonball Super is out of the question too. One Piece on CR is region-locked btw, because why the fuck not (and NO, we don't have an alternative site streaming it).

If I have to say which shows from the last season I've followed on Crunchyroll that'd be... Ushio to Tora, and that's it. Ore Monogatari too, from the previous one. Now, I'm not saying that it's like they don't matter, but when I see CR getting a bucketload of stupid comedy shorts, no big names yet (except Owarimonogatari I guess, which admittedly I don't care for but that's just me), and every half decent thing is region locked... eehhhhh. I'd like it to get *at least* Concrete Revolutio, I guess, at this point.

The really annoying thing is that Crunchyroll is the only service that works more or less across the Atlantic. It's the only model that makes sense in the modern world, because what the heck is the point of nation-wide licenses when everyone is connected to everyone else and we all watch the same stuff all over the globe? It's just a relic of the past, and the sooner it dies off like it should, the better. AT LEAST we should have a EU-wide licensing system. And yet, CR feels like it's lagging behind its competitors in the U.S. from this point of view - losing the big shows that could provide them a huge influx of viewers, and losing them for the entire world when the competitor only needs them for the U.S. anyway. What is the logic of that? Say that Viz has licensed One Punch Man, fine. If Viz has no intention to set up a decent streaming site in the UK, could they PLEASE at least stop intentionally fucking with the licensing terms so that we don't get it either?

I know it's not necessarily CR's fault. I'm not saying it is. I'm just saying I see CR as being ever more "specialized" in airing the anime that no one else cares about, pointing on a quantity-over-quality strategy rather than pointing their money on grabbing less anime but of higher relevance to everyone. Maybe they don't have any choice. Maybe it's a tactic. But the result of it is that I'm in the ridiculous position of living in the UK and feeling already at the periphery of the English-speaking market. If I lived elsewhere in Europe I probably would not even bother with a CR subscription, because everyone else has it even worse than us.
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ninjajake12 wrote:


To be frank, however, I can't see how exactly can CR manage to keep up its game if things go like this. It seems to me as of late they have simply given up on the large market of big-name titles and simply have gone down the road of focusing mostly on resident LN adaptations and other sleazy/cheap stuff, and of focusing on the US. In other words, Funi is shaping the US market by taking over the big shows, and CR is digging its own niche next to it by picking up the leftovers, but that affects also us in Europe where most shows end up being region-locked AND we don't even have the option of watching Funimation. Why the hell every show picked up by Funi and streamed in the US has to be automatically locked for the rest of the world too is beyond me. But if tomorrow Funi suddenly started streaming in the UK, well, I think at this rate CR would lose my premium subscription really. When I joined it was the season of Attack on Titan - now getting THAT was a master stroke. That's exactly what I'm talking about: a few years ago CR could draw me in by picking up the super-hyped show of the season, and NOW we have to be resigned from the start at the idea that if a show is hyped it automatically means Funi will get it.


If you take a look back at the past 4-6 seasons, you'll see that CR has actually gotten a plethora of big-name anime. Attack on Titan (which you mentioned), Sword Art Online, Shokugeki no Soma, Fairy Tail, Hunter x Hunter, One Piece, Gintama, etc etc. I'm not exactly sure what big-name titles or large markets you are thinking of (maybe you can clarify since that's pretty subjective). CR still manages to get 60-70% of new anime titles every season, so I wouldn't say that Funimation is shaping the US market as much as you're thinking. They do get some pretty good ones here and there, but they actually tend to lean towards more sleazy shows than CR (because of merchandising and potential DVD sales of those ecchi/sleazy shows) - Prison School for example (given, this was more than a generic ecchi series, but it's still very fanservicey). I mean, if you look at last season, the only worthy titles Funimation got (in my opinion) were: Gangsta (which I heard progressively got worse), Shimoneta (crazy NSFW comedy, but can live without it), Overlord, and Prison School...going beyond that, they got Arslan, Blood Battlefront Blockade, Snow White with the Red Hair, and...that's about it. If you compare the amount of variety and volume, CR absolutely beats Funimation.

If you're talking about One Punch Man, it was actually Viz, not Funimation, that licensed it. And since they don't go after many titles every season, they spend a lot of their resources to get 1 or 2 good ones...but that doesn't always happen. For me, I'd rather have 10-20 different shows to choose from than a single show I may or may not like.

I won't pretend to know the licensing situation in Europe...CR does get certain titles in non-US/NA regions, but that doesn't happen too often. I don't think Funimation having a license for NA affects Europe either (though if someone knows better than me, feel free to correct me). I definitely feel for the European and other regions that don't get as many titles as we do in North America. There's probably a licensing company for the EU or certain countries, but they probably aren't as big or resourceful as CR or Funimation...so it might take some research to find them.


What mostly happens in Europe is that if Viz or Funi get a show in the US, more often than not we don't get it anywhere. I don't know why, I don't know if it's due to some law/rule or simply something that coincidentally happens, but it's a pretty strong correlation at this point. Maybe they reserve the rights to distribute the DVDs later, maybe there are other agreements. There was a concurrent website that tried launching some time ago, All The Anime, that never took off (mostly due to crappy management, for example one of the first shows they streamed in the UK was Kill la Kill but they started delaying the release and then basically all but stopped mid-show) and quickly turned into a DVD-selling site. Now, for the UK, some big anime that are region-locked on CR are available on Netflix (TTGL, Kill la Kill, FMAB). Attack on Titan and HunterXHunter are currently available on both, increasing my confusion as to how the fuck is this licensing system supposed to work - I guess some publishers simply don't give out exclusive licenses.

For example this season we didn't get Shimoneta, Prison School, Overlord, and Gangsta, on anything that I know of. Dragonball Super is out of the question too. One Piece on CR is region-locked btw, because why the fuck not (and NO, we don't have an alternative site streaming it).

If I have to say which shows from the last season I've followed on Crunchyroll that'd be... Ushio to Tora, and that's it. Ore Monogatari too, from the previous one. Now, I'm not saying that it's like they don't matter, but when I see CR getting a bucketload of stupid comedy shorts, no big names yet (except Owarimonogatari I guess, which admittedly I don't care for but that's just me), and every half decent thing is region locked... eehhhhh. I'd like it to get *at least* Concrete Revolutio, I guess, at this point.

The really annoying thing is that Crunchyroll is the only service that works more or less across the Atlantic. It's the only model that makes sense in the modern world, because what the heck is the point of nation-wide licenses when everyone is connected to everyone else and we all watch the same stuff all over the globe? It's just a relic of the past, and the sooner it dies off like it should, the better. AT LEAST we should have a EU-wide licensing system. And yet, CR feels like it's lagging behind its competitors in the U.S. from this point of view - losing the big shows that could provide them a huge influx of viewers, and losing them for the entire world when the competitor only needs them for the U.S. anyway. What is the logic of that? Say that Viz has licensed One Punch Man, fine. If Viz has no intention to set up a decent streaming site in the UK, could they PLEASE at least stop intentionally fucking with the licensing terms so that we don't get it either?

I know it's not necessarily CR's fault. I'm not saying it is. I'm just saying I see CR as being ever more "specialized" in airing the anime that no one else cares about, pointing on a quantity-over-quality strategy rather than pointing their money on grabbing less anime but of higher relevance to everyone. Maybe they don't have any choice. Maybe it's a tactic. But the result of it is that I'm in the ridiculous position of living in the UK and feeling already at the periphery of the English-speaking market. If I lived elsewhere in Europe I probably would not even bother with a CR subscription, because everyone else has it even worse than us.


You see, the reason why FUNi outbids CR is that they have the "we'll license this show for home video release" card that CR doesn't have as CR is mainly just a legal streaming site... and yes. They pick up FUNi-reject titles (if not Aniplex / Pony Canyon shows) because that's their strategy. They try to bid for every title.
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Chrunchyroll, Pleeeeease simulcast "Attack on Titan Junior high" Please Please! I'll wuv you forever.
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It's probably not possible, but I was wondering if Teekyu could have a "slow" or "stretched" version, because the episodes run at ludicrous speed and most people have to pause every so often to keep up anyway (even with the animation sequences). It would be done by about halving the speed and changing the pitch until it sounds normal again. Many video players in general (including some flash) have speed change functionality, but the pitch is another matter (never encountered one yet). I'm not sure it would end up perfect, but it would be very interesting to test out.

But overall, I don't think anyone is really going to allow it one way or another, unless maybe someone convinced the anime creators or publishers to try it.
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No more Food Wars? what the heck?
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Pretty much a response to the recent discussion about the UK streams I've been noticing.

As a UK anime fan I'm also frustrated by how Funimation picks up certain titles and doesn't even bother using them for us. I've been keeping an eye on what sites have picked up and overall Viewster is the only one that's bothering to actually try and help UK, Ireland and in some cases folks in Europe.

Out of the 15 titles Funimation grabbed in the Summer season; Viewster managed to pickup 6 (Castle Town Dandelion, Chaos Dragon, Gangsta., Hetalia: The World Twinkle, Prison School & Snow White with the Red Hair), Daisuki randomly* got 4 (Aquarion Logos, Bikini Warriors, Gangsta. and Hetalia: The World Twinkle) and dumbass Animax UK got 2 (Overlord and Rampo Kitan: Game of Laplace). The only ones we missed out were Junjo Romantica 3, Seiyu's Life, Shinometa, Sky Wizard's Academy and Venus Project Climax. While it still sucks that not all of them were available, that season was handled much better than the previous ones.

*I say randomly because Funimation sub-licensed the titles to them but they were supposed to be US & Canada only. Not long after the UK got access to them and they weren't even advertised.

While Wakanim UK was a failure (which I'd admit that because delays aren't going to help anyone), Viewster at least is keeping up - they're still a tad behind Crunchyroll with only 480p quality (it's watchable but there are fans out there who only watch shows in HD) but it's free and they do have plans for ad-free HD subscription at some point this fall.

As for the state of this Fall season, so far the UK has been in luck with a bunch of titles.

Crunchyroll has every title accessible for the UK thus far - including Asterisk War and Owarimonogatari.

Daisuki, for the first time ever, has every title in their line-up accessible for the UK (usually it's a couple) - including Concrete Revolutio, Gundam: Iron Blooded Orphans and One Punch Man.

Viewster is just started to roll out their announcements and they so far have Comet Lucifer, K: Return of Kings (we didn't even get the first season accessible over here aside from Animax UK) and Seraph of the End Season 2.

The only thing that is blocking the UK from getting certain titles is mainly from TBS, TMS, Toei, titles that are solely for French/German audiences because of Funimation, and someone like Animax making titles exclusive to them and not allowing CR to provide their version for us (i.e. Aniplex's Magi, Mekakucity Actors, Nisekoi & World Conquest Zvezda Plot).

Either way, the whole UK situation is much better than usual. Crunchyroll will still be struggling with a lot of titles thanks to Funimation though.
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Hmmm... These do not look that interesting to me...
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