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Georgia's only woman on death row is executed
Posted 9/29/15 , edited 9/29/15
http://news.yahoo.com/board-meets-clemency-only-woman-georgia-death-row-070143034.html

After reading the article, I felt disgusted.

While I sympathize for the victims families in regards to the crime, I can't find myself vouching for the death penalty. It just feels barbaric somehow. Maybe it's primarily because I've adopted: "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" - Gandhi.

An any event, I feel like the death penalty is such a step backwards considering where we are in the 21st century. You'd think we would have progressed better than our ancestors.
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Yeah the whole ordeal is pretty sad and unfortunate.

18 years is hell of a long wait though...
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What I find ironic about this is that it happened a week after Pope Francis visited here and denounced the death penalty. One of his people even wrote to them about this specific case and asked them not to do it. I know the Pope has no say in U.S. laws, but it looks like a big slap in the face to just ignore him over such an important issue, even if the execution date was already set.

Anyways, what's even more messed up is the fact that she wasn't even the one who committed the murder. Her boyfriend did and is serving life in jail. She just told him to kill. She knew what she did was wrong and she felt sorry for it.


Gissendaner's lawyers also argued she was a seriously damaged woman who has undergone a spiritual transformation in prison and has been a model prisoner who has shown remorse and provided hope to other inmates in their personal struggles. The new request included testimony from several women who were locked up as teens and who said Gissendaner counseled them through moments when they felt scared, lost or on the verge of giving up hope.


Prisons are meant to rehabilitate criminals, and this woman was showing signs of progress. It's disgusting how prisons are more focused on profiting off of human lives instead. I can never tolerate putting a price tag on a human or disposing of them like they're trash. Even if they commit the most horrifying crime you've ever seen, there's no reason to take their lives. Lock them up until they've proven they've changed their ways. Needless killing makes you no better than them. Unless they can still somehow pose a serious threat while chained up behind bars in an underground prison with S.H.I.E.L.D. grade security, killing them would be counterproductive. Prisoners don't have much of a chance to reform themselves when their lives are cut short.
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I don't know, seems pretty barbaric to tolerate cold-blooded murderers in any way. They can be forgiven once they're put in the ground.

It's the accidental murderers who get too harsh of a punishment, in my opinion. I can tolerate stupidity, but I can't tolerate pure evil.
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Was she sentenced for murder?

If so, what's the problem here?
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PhantomGundam wrote:Anyways, what's even more messed up is the fact that she wasn't even the one who committed the murder. Her boyfriend did and is serving life in jail. She just told him to kill. She knew what she did was wrong and she felt sorry for it.


Free Charles Manson.



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The disgusting part is that it took so long! I was listening to a Jewish guy explain the "eye for an eye" reference - it was all about proportional punishment and was an effort to limit excessive punishments for minor crimes. This woman who appeared do be doing well worked with her lover to take forever from her then husband his possibility of doing the same - her punishment was just. She sure fought hard to stay alive: the "barbaric" thing would be to allow her her life in prison.

The pope urged life to be held sacred at all its stages: by executing this woman this ideal was upheld. Planned Parenthood profits from taking lives (prisons do not); seeing how we are so "modern" and "progressive" one would think the idea of sacrificing babies for personal gain would have been done away with long ago - 55 million little lives later ...guess we are not as "modern" as we like to believe. These executions need to be made less costly and carried out within a couple years of conviction ...now that would be progressive.
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Kavalion wrote:

I don't know, seems pretty barbaric to tolerate cold-blooded murderers in any way. They can be forgiven once they're put in the ground.

It's the accidental murderers who get too harsh of a punishment, in my opinion. I can tolerate stupidity, but I can't tolerate pure evil.


I think it's inhumane to lock someone up for 18 years, and then kill them. I don't support or oppose the death penalty, but I don't support needlessly imprisoning someone if you're just going to kill them.

I agree with you though. If you kill multiple people in a premeditated fashion, and they didn't harm you or even associate with you, and you did it for fun... You can't take those lives back, so why do you get to deserve to live freely? Not saying you deserve to die, but well you know.
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I think the death penalty is economically a failure. I think it needs to change.
As someone who has been effected by a heinous crime I am 100% for the death penalty.
The idea that someone who plays god and takes lives still gets to have even a semblance of one absolutely disgust me. I want to stomp my feet and say that it's unfair but that just doesn't seem to cover it. Because its more than unfair. By taking a life your not just stopping that persons heart your also directly effecting everyone that ever cared for that person. So by saying its just taking an eye for an eye is just completely incorrect in my mind.
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So basically, shes unable to watch anime?

THATS HORRIBLE
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Posted 9/30/15 , edited 9/30/15

VZ68 wrote:


PhantomGundam wrote:Anyways, what's even more messed up is the fact that she wasn't even the one who committed the murder. Her boyfriend did and is serving life in jail. She just told him to kill. She knew what she did was wrong and she felt sorry for it.


Free Charles Manson.





Wow. Great job comparing apples to oranges. You're really good at that.

Let's go ahead and free every person who celebrates leading savage cults and brainwashing others into becoming murderers. /sarcasm.

Seriously, though. How in the world did you get that out of my post? I said absolutely nothing like that.

This woman had her boyfriend kill someone. Years later, she's realized the error of her ways and even became a role model for some of the younger prisoners. Charles Manson was a total sociopath who created a cult for the sole purpose to killing and establishing himself as a divine figure. He and his crazy followers are rotting in jail where they belong.

If you don't see the difference between a model prisoner who regrets their actions and an unapologetic nutcase who was basically a less successful version of Hitler, then you must have very little empathy for human life. Not everybody who steals from a candy store is going to be the second coming of Osama Bin Laden.
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Posted 9/30/15 , edited 9/30/15

PhantomGundam wrote:


VZ68 wrote:


PhantomGundam wrote:Anyways, what's even more messed up is the fact that she wasn't even the one who committed the murder. Her boyfriend did and is serving life in jail. She just told him to kill. She knew what she did was wrong and she felt sorry for it.


Free Charles Manson.





Wow. Great job comparing apples to oranges. You're really good at that.

Let's go ahead and free every person who celebrates leading savage cults and brainwashing others into becoming murderers. /sarcasm.

Seriously, though. How in the world did you get that out of my post? I said absolutely nothing like that.

This woman had her boyfriend kill someone. Years later, she's realized the error of her ways and even became a role model for some of the younger prisoners. Charles Manson was a total sociopath who created a cult for the sole purpose to killing and establishing himself as a divine figure. He and his crazy followers are rotting in jail where they belong.

If you don't see the difference between a model prisoner who regrets their actions and an unapologetic nutcase who was basically a less successful version of Hitler, then you must have very little empathy for human life. Not everybody who steals from a candy store is going to be the second coming of Osama Bin Laden.


Some of his followers are out.

She had someone killed for gain.
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So basically, shes unable to watch anime?

THATS HORRIBLE


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